Oh Shoot

So there are .22 pistols you WOULD you trust your life with? - OS

That crude site is hopelessly out of date and erroneous (if it were ever accurate to begin with). Here's MA approved firearm listing current as of 12/09, straight from MA state website: http://www.mass.gov/Eeops/docs/chsb/firearms/approved_firearms_roster.pdf This PDF linked at: http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=eopssubtopic&L=4&L0=Home&L1=Firearms+Registration+%26+Laws&L2=Firearms+Support+Services&L3=Approved+Weapons+Rosters&sid=Eeops So I assume it is accurate; at least more accurate than the one from that gun shop. First thing to catch my eye on your link were that it said all Kahr's were banned, which are made in MA! Actually, most are all approved, but looks like not all. One noticeable absence, though: no Springfield products at all, though Glocks are okay. That's really odd. Certainly, the state is restrictive, and really sucks firearms wise, but you might as well have the real dope on it. I have read here and there that some companies simply refuse to submit their guns to MA for testing, due to fees, red tape, and perhaps just general principles, even though their weapons would pass, but I have no evidence to support that; although that's becoming more prevalent with makers refusing to sell in CA. - OS

Ummm, I'm thinking "let sleeping dogs lie" is the better part of valor here. Unless you want to join the Voldemort crusade. - OS

I spent a month in northern England once, and didn't understand half of what was said to me, and I consider myself almost fluent in English! So are you actually Brazilian? - OS

Seems pretty darn accurate too, I've shot it. Really. And it's really held up well...between us, must have almost a hundred trouble free rounds through it by now? - OS

Yeah, en Español, adjectives are indeed generally after the noun, but adverbs are also after the verbs, just as en Inglés. "Pistola" is the same in Portugués and Español. The difference between Portuguese and Spanish is about the same as between East Tennersee Hillbilly and New York Bronx. Thus endeth the pedantry. - OS

Okay, found it, saved a text file if this comes up again. -------------- From: Municode - Search Chapter 20 - Parks and Recreation. Sec. 20-52. - Definitions. Park means a park, reservation, playground, beach, recreation center or any other area in the city owned, leased or used by the city and devoted to active or passive recreation. Sec. 20-60. - Recreational activities. No person in a public park shall: (7)Hunt, trap or pursue wildlife at any time. No person shall use, carry or possess firearms of any description, air rifles, spring guns, bows and arrows, slings or any other form of weapon potentially inimical to wildlife and dangerous to human safety, any instrument that can be loaded with and fire blank cartridges, or any kind of trapping device. Shooting into park areas from beyond park boundaries is forbidden. Sec. 20-53. - Penalty for violation of article. Any person who is found to have violated this article may be punished as provided in section 1-9. Sec. 1-9. - General penalty; continuing violations. Whenever in this Code or in any ordinance of the city an act is prohibited or is made or declared to be unlawful, or an offense or a misdemeanor, or whenever in such Code or ordinance the doing of any act is required or the failure to do any act is declared to be unlawful, where no specific penalty is provided therefor, the violation of any such provision of this Code or any such ordinance shall be punished as follows: Any person violating any of the provisions of this general penalty article shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and conviction thereof shall result in the penalties of a monetary fine not to exceed fifty dollars ($50.00) and the repayment of administrative costs incident to the correction of the municipal violation in an amount not to exceed five hundred dollars ($500.00) and/or by imprisonment not to exceed thirty (30) days, or both, for each separate offense. Each day any violation of this Code or of any ordinance shall continue shall constitute a separate offense. -------- - So, seems clear that under the definition of a "park", the coliseum would certainly be included. - Also, I didn't know the penalty could include jail time! - Also also, perhaps the scariest part is that it's not beyond the pale to think that the state MIGHT pull your HCP if the Knoxville court were to have a hard on enough for you to pass the info along to them. In the state statute there's a catch-all provision of "Poses a material likelihood of risk of harm to the public;" - OS

Sigh. I'll have to find the freaking city ordinance now. I dunno. My guess is that open carrying, you'd be told to leave at the least and arrested at the worst, soon as a cop saw you. I'll report back after I find the website with Knoxville ordinances again. To my knowledge, we don't have a Knoxville policeman on this whole forum. - OS

If they really wanted to make a killing, they should fire up a .380 ammunition plant. - OS

Ummm, you understand that this thread is about the Kahr PM9? - OS

Yeah, my syntax was clumsy. - OS

Actually, IF you can pay/print label online (you can get UPS account through eBay/Paypal or just open one online directly), the UPS Stores seem to take whatever you throw them, long as they don't have to do anything with it 'cept pass it along. I've sent a long gun this way, no drama no questions (since BATF onsite FAQ is WRONG regarding notification to carrier), and several packages that looked like they were rifles, but actually weren't. Dump on counter and depart. I don't see that sending ammo would be any different. - OS

Well, greenways aren't "parks" either, but they're considered such. I thought I had the Knoxville ordinance on the box here but can't find it...you? So, the Coliseum, besides the booze thing, it is NOT posted, compliantly or other? - OS

Half of the stuff he pulled was totally idiotic, IMNSHO. Forget the wisdom of actually going INTO the heart of the city in the first place. Convenient to find tool box with 9volt battery and steel wool in it to do his first fire, I must say. Finding (quickly) a storm sewer map in library (and being able to interpret it). After 1911, I wonder if city services and blueprints are even kept in libraries anymore? Hell of a flashlight he had, I'll say that. Leave a tall building by climbing down the elevator cables to be unseen? Most of us could do that safely. Check. Climbing up onto a bridge with looped rope. Check. No prob. Running everywhere you go, jumping blindly over fences? No worries about broken bones, twisted ankles, glass or nails through foot. Break out the passenger side window of the vehicle you're going to use? Hot wiring said vehicle which of course would have had steering lock. Cook up some biofuel on big fire while being covert; like a barrel of french fry smell wouldn't get any attention? Of course, by then, he's "covertly" driving around. Which he could do easily, since there weren't deserted cars everywhere in the gridlock that would really have been there. Why constantly stressing people avoidance in all his actions, one of the first things he does is set up a ham radio to loop a message out to FIND people. Just really too many to mention. Interesting, but mostly absurd, unless you really were in a totally deserted city, like it appeared. By the way, was filmed in one of the blighted areas of Detroit. - OS

Well, at least you're aiming high. (or maybe too low). - OS

Well, actually, is it a federal offense for a felon to possess a gun, too? Don't know when the state law added 39-17-1322. Maybe the show's research team didn't actually blow it at the time? Also, is it also a federal offense for felon to posses a firearm, too, if they want to prosecute? - OS

I'm pretty busy looking for a woman who doesn't much like me so I can buy her a house. - OS

Now THAT'S funny, I L'dOL (rare). - OS

OIC. Was comparing case dimensions, forgot about the boolit. .356 for para and .365 for the Markarov. I guess that IS too big to chamber without driving it in there with something, which would be yet another Bad Idea. - OS

Nothing to fear from that, most all my erstwhile ladies are quite happy, the ex-wives most of all. - OS

Good one, Bronk!! - OS

My English degree has made possible the illustrious OhShoot you see before you today. Really, I don't much care, and seldom "correct" anything...it was just that he mentioned starting college in same breath, couldn't help it. - OS

Ever read "1984"? History ain't what it used to be. - OS

Is English still a big flunk out course like it once was? If so: - "What are your new year's resolutions." - "..to do well in my first year..." My primary resolution is same as last year - endeavoring to make new year's resolutions NEXT year. - OS