Oh Shoot

Sure they do, lots of fat people in prison. It's carb heaven. - OS

Yes, really. I can't think of but 2 things an individual can actually do to "resist" this law. 1. don't pay federal or state income tax 2. give up health insurance and refuse to buy any and refuse to pay fine in 2014. - OS

I thought you had health insurance. What are you resisting? - OS

I can only assume that rudimentary web search expertise is not required for a logistics degree from UT. - OS

You should call Gaston. Maybe they'd sell more if they named new models stuff like Eliminator, Eradicator, Terminator, Destroyer, Vaporizer, KaBoom, and the like. - OS

Actually, there's a bill to make this okay to have ammo in proximity as long as gun not loaded; what's the status, someone? Short of that though, to be completely safe from overzealous LEO, ammo should be back in the bed somewhere, somehow. You're surely unlikely to get charged with an unloaded gun with ammo in glove box (unless you really gave the LEO a reason to be pissed so that he looked for something to nail you), but it would ultimately be up to the interpretation of the individual LEO and consequently, a judge as to what constitutes "immediate vicinity". And yep, HCP makes this totally worry free. - OS

If you really don't know, the 17 was the first production model (it contained the 17th patent) and pistols have simply been numbered sequentially since, as new models are released, regardless of caliber. So, there's 17-39 with some also in "C" or compensated. The 18 is selective fire, and hence not civilian sold, the 24 is the only discontinued model AFAIK, and the 25 (.380) can't be sold in US due to BATF importation restrictions. - OS

And now, from a veritable whippersnapper! - OS

You seem to think I'm in favor of the current abomination. I merely try to point out some ahem, "inconvenient truths", as I see them. Parliament of whores - following the money (until it's worthless). I trust you have at least a minimal survivalist (one year) plan for whatever family you have? - OS

See, even more help that I knew. - OS

Sure. The 16,000 new IRS agents are only being put into place to help you. - OS

As long as you're not as grumpy as me, young fellow. - OS

All of that sounds very reasonable, actually quite "Republican". Hence, my "blame game" for the GOP's long standing sins of omission. - OS

Yep, playing in one window, while flipping back and forth tween FOX and CNN on tube. An historic (and sad) day. Or, actually, just another one. - OS

Because the GOP has been equally out of touch, and for a good long while, otherwise it couldn't have happened. People primarily vote their pocketbook, the 50% or so max that vote at all, that is. It'll swing the other way over the next 2-8 years, with about the same results to the nation's vitality. - OS

Absolutely, Absolutely. Absolutely, and have done the best I can.I can afford the $4500 insurance, though it lowers my standard of living, and I can afford the extra $12,500/year if it comes to it, at least for a few years. I'm not getting anything for nothing, that's for damn sure. But I don't have even ballpark quality of coverage for the money that our elected politicians have, and that counts the many older farts than moi, who likely have more issues. There's something not "fair" about that, even in a conservative Republican sense. - OS

Yep, I agree. But it couldn't happen if the opposition in this marvelous two party system worked for the good of The Republic, rather than primarily for its own aggrandizement. - OS

Technically, I cannot find anything to prevent it. I imagine they could issue and immediately suspend it, though, just to cost you money and teach you a lesson. Or you could be tagged with a lifetime "..poses a material likelihood of risk of harm to the public"... That's one reason I took the unpopular stand that Kwik's permit should not be zapped ... after all, he didn't even do anything illegal, and yet in this case "you" did. - OS

Hmm, looks like I posted this in two similar threads, sorry. Getting on up there, you know. - OS

Just factual statements. Both parties suck. In the long run, they are both ruinous. They need each other to exist. Good cop, bad cop. Then exchange the roles. Loot the coffers through the back gate while distracting the populous with fireworks in the courtyard. Most of the people that post on the political parts of this forum must have the best insurance in America by virtue of good coverage through work and/or being young enough to not need it, whatever. The few who have admitted that their health insurance sucks, is unaffordable, or is unobtainable for any price, have generally been castigated as Socialists or worse. The problem is real out there. To put it on a personal level, which necessarily must significantly affect one's "politics", I'm 61, (barely) retired, with no golden parachute health coverage able to be continued from anywhere. I'm in decent shape, just "old". I have no chronic conditions beyond bad back that I take no treatment for, no regular prescription drug needs, etc. My only daily consumption is an aspirin and a multivitamin. My coverage has doubled in the last 4 years, and would have been even worse, but I've upped deductible to $8,500 per year and total out of pocket to $12,500. No doc co-pay, everything comes out of my pocket. The only perks from my coverage are that I pay the lesser "insured rate", rather than the "walk in off the street" rate and get a discount on (generic only) drugs. And I pay about $4500/year for this marvelous single person coverage. So, I'm minimum of 13 grand out of pocket in any calendar year before I see a dime of insurance payment coming the other way. It's the best I can find. No I don't agree with how this whole fiasco has turned out to date, no, I didn't vote for The Anointed One, but if this is the best that our grand capitalistic health insurance industry can deliver (while of course making record profits year after year), then it has failed the society. If you argue that this and other instances of capitalism are limping because of unfair government restrictions placed upon them, then call it blame if you want, but everyone so adamantly opposed to anything remotely smacking of "socialism" should have been pushing the GOP to remove these regulatory chains during their recent lengthy run of power. - OS

Perhaps the GOP, who now says it has all these better idea for health insurance reform, should have done a little something about it during the 107th, 108th, 109th, and 110th Congresses, many sessions of which had a Republican majority in house and senate and all of which had a sitting GOP president. You know, maybe a little of that and maybe a little of actually doing something about the Mexican invasion, instead of sitting around with Dubya pulling pud, and blowing our surplus on hammering and then rebuilding a country that wasn't even a threat. - OS

Perhaps the GOP, who now says it has all these better idea for health insurance reform, should have done a little something about it during the 107th, 108th, 109th, and 110th Congresses, many sessions of which had a Republican majority in house and senate and all of which had a sitting GOP president. You know, maybe a little of that and maybe a little of actually doing something about the Mexican invasion, instead of sitting around with Dubya pulling pud, and blowing our surplus on hammering and then rebuilding a country that wasn't even a threat. - OS

I'll probably add a XD 9 tactical one of these days, just to round out the collection (have service and subbie). But I have too much investment in mags to probably ever buy the XDM9. - OS

Yup. Same capacities in both the 9 and .40. - OS

Well, Fox gnus. I mean, it's a historic day and all. - OS