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Did you not understand the statute? Locking something is only necessary if you need to separate guns and ammo and have no trunk or truck tool box or something. If no ammo, no probs with that. Oh, remember to keep mum regarding the handgun through Jersey and MD too. Because technically I guess you didn't start your journey with an exactly totally legal possession of that according to NY frigging SAFE Act I guess it is? Take a deep refreshing breath once you hit either Virginia. - OS

Yeah, I grabbed the MOE model, keeps coming and going, have to be purt quick to get any of them when they put them up. Ran by the range and ran quick 40 rounds of Tula through it, just fine, sights already pert close. All a little tighter and smoother than my WASRs, little slicker finish on the receiver and whatnot. Much tighter mag well fit. I guess it's pretty much standard AKM with only one obvious mod except the furniture of course: no front sling ring on their handguard retainer (handguard wouldn't fit if there were and you couldn't get to it if it did). Oh, and bayo lug is a bit too large to fit, guess could shape it to do it but probably won't. - OS

Yeah, forgot about that -- the federal inheritance part is rock solid, but the federal part regarding "safe passage" says possession is supposed to be legal from where you start transport too, so you do probably have to fudge a wee bit to get the handgun past the NY state line. Hide it well, and only admit to the rifle if push comes to shove. Sort of like it's perfectly legal to ship handguns between unlicensed individuals inside same state via federal law, but none of the carriers will do it unless you lie to them and also break federal law by not informing them either! - OS

Just yesterday Rachel at Fighting Sheep Dog told me that PSA has bought DDI. She thought maybe the PSA AK I was picking up was made by DDI, but I kinda don't think that's happened yet. - OS

Interstate inheritance is exception in private transfers between individuals of two different states, as long as the guns are legal in the state they are being received in (and of course anything here in TN is) and can be via intestate inheritance (meaning it doesn't have to be in a legal document, will or otherwise). Just haul them on down here, and that's that. No federal or state involvement. Transport according to "safe passage" provision of FOPA to be complaint through the commie states: "Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console." - OS

I went from no AK about a year ago to 3! Plus a pistol! 7.62x39 just feels good to me, enough recoil to keep your attention, even FMJ really blows stuff up much better than .223 too, which is too fast for small size to do much but pass through. All the steel cased stuff is same or cheaper than same in .223 and you get a lot bigger cartridge and bullet for the money! - OS

Sounds like a damn narrow exception (100 person population span, wow!) that was probably put in originally to grease somebody in one county to me? Anyway, it's from Tennessee Code Annotated, and still current: 39-17-1315. Written directive and permit to carry handguns. (a) (1) (A) The following persons may carry handguns at all times pursuant to a written directive by the executive supervisor of the organization to which the person is or was attached or employed, regardless of the person's regular duty hours or assignments: (i) Any law enforcement officer, police officer, bonded and sworn deputy sheriff, director, commissioner, county magistrate or retired law enforcement officer who is bonded and who, at the time of receiving the written directive, has successfully completed and, except for a law enforcement officer who has retired in good standing as certified by the chief law enforcement officer of the organization from which the officer retired, continues to successfully complete on an annual basis a firearm training program of at least eight (8) hours duration; (ii) Any director or full-time employee of the Tennessee emergency management agency in the performance of the director's or employee's duty; (iii) Any duly authorized representative or full-time employee of the department of correction who has been specifically designated by the commissioner of the department to execute warrants issued pursuant to § 40-28-121 or § 40-35-311 or to perform such other duties as specifically designated by the commissioner; or (iv) Any other officer or person authorized to carry handguns by this, or any other law of this state. (B) A copy of the written directive shall be retained as a portion of the records of the particular law enforcement agency that shall issue the directive. Nothing in this subdivision (a)(1) shall prevent federal officers from carrying firearms as prescribed by federal law. (2) (A) Any duly elected and sworn constable in any county having a population of not less than eleven thousand one hundred (11,100) nor more than eleven thousand two hundred (11,200), according to the 1970 federal census or any subsequent federal census, and being a county in which constables retain law enforcement powers and duties under §§ 8-10-108, 40-6-210, 55-8-152, 57-5-202 and 57-9-101, are authorized to and may carry handguns at all times and may equip their vehicles with blue and red lights and sirens. The sheriff of such county shall issue a written directive or permit authorizing the constables to carry a handgun; provided, that each constable has completed the same eight-hour annual firearm training program as is required by this subsection (a). (B) The county commission may, by a two-thirds (2/3) vote, require the constable to have in effect a liability policy or a corporate surety bond in an amount of not less than fifty thousand dollars ($50,000). (b) (1) An individual, corporation or business entity is authorized to prohibit the possession of weapons by employees otherwise authorized by this subsection (b) on premises owned, operated or managed by the individual, corporation or business entity. Notice of the prohibition shall be posted or otherwise noticed to all affected employees. (2) An individual, corporation, business entity or governmental entity or agent thereof is authorized to prohibit possession of weapons by any person otherwise authorized by this subsection (b), at meetings conducted by, or on premises owned, operated, managed or under control of the individual, corporation, business entity or governmental entity. Notice of the prohibition shall be posted or announced. - OS

Dunno, I still bet it's Century wanting to change emphasis now that the line has gained such popularity ... same reason Springfield XD doesn't show a big "HS Produkt" on the side. - OS

Has Century always been the only importer for that line, or maybe recently become the only one? Did they drop the big "Canik" on the left side of slide or something? If so, maybe they've become the only importer and are trying to be more like Springfield XD markings, emphasizing the US company more than the maker? Anyway, one way or the other, I'd feel comfortable wagering it's exact same heater. - OS

Had to go out after reading thread .. was still 1.95.9 at Pilot on Sutherland. Went ahead and filled up, so I could add to the problem and all. I imagine Pilot may be a bit gun shy about bumping stuff up at the drop of a hat anymore after all its troubles over the last couple years. - OS

Didn't work in the darker theme, still round. Which is fine. Heck, I had tweaked mine to fit better in the round format too. - OS

Politics has nothing to do with WASR importation right now, at least our politics, maybe Romanian ones. - OS

Seems all quality US AK makers are selling them about as fast as they can make them, like PSA and DD. WASRs being generally unavailable or bumped in price by the few places that held them back is contributing to that too. - OS

Yeah, here's TFA's email today regarding it, just for the record: September 14, 2016 Knxoville Police threaten to arrest Tennessee Handgun Permit Holders who ask if they can enter Chilhowee park armed Members of the Tennessee Firearms Association have sued Knoxville claiming that the city illegally banned handgun permit holders from attending the 2015 State Fair that was being held in Chilhowee Park. TFA members claimed that following a change in the law in 2015, local governments like Knoxville lack the legal authority under a new amendment to a state law (TCA 39-17-1311 and TCA 39-17-1314) to prohibit handgun permit holders from carrying their otherwise legally possessed handguns in a public park. The lawsuit seeks to have Knoxville's gun ban policy declared illegal under state law. The city has challenged the lawsuit by claiming in a motion to dismiss the complaint that the plaintiffs have not "alleged an actual injury, such as being arrested, fined or even turned away by police ..." The city claims that without such actual harm -- i.e., being arrested -- the plaintiffs, even as Tennessee citizens, have no standing to question whether the city was violating state law. On September 13, 2016, seven TFA members approached Chilhowee Park near Gate 8 in the early evening to ask at least three different Knoxville police officers stationed there if they would be arrested if they entered the park as handgun permit holders in possession of their firearms. Three times they were told that they would be arrested even after disclosing that they had state issued handgun permits. The incident was recorded and observed by several witnesses. Specifically, Ray and Kimberly Bergeron discussed the matter with Knoxville Police Department's deputy chief of patrol, Monty Houk, as they stood outside the gate to the fairgrounds. Officer Houk confirmed to them that they would be subject to arrest on a charge of criminal trespassing if they violated Knoxville's ban of firearms in Chilhowee Park. The discussion was video taped. When the risk of imminent arrest was clearly threatened by law enforcement, the TFA members politely thanked the Officer for his assistance and clarification and left peaceably - despite having their 2nd Amendment rights intentionally violated by the City of Knoxville. "It is a travesty that Knoxville apparently did not admit to the trial court that it had established a policy to arrest citizens who have handgun permits and who desired to enter Chilhowee Park so that it became necessasry to have a group of our members go back out to the park with video cameras, witnesses, their handgun permits, their firearms, and purchase tickets just to stand outside the park and ask the Knoxville Police officers stationed there what would happen if they entered Chilhowee Park," said John Harris, Executive Director of the Tennessee Firearms Association. "Government actions like this is why so many Tennesseans are increasingly frustrated with local and state government and are searching for alternatives to the traditional, career politicians who think that they are above the law." "The courts should intervene and protect the constitutional rights of Tennesseans particularly when the state has by law denied any authority to local governments to ban firearms in public Parks" said Harris. "Further, Tennessee's Legislature perhaps should expend a little more time making sure that citizens have the capacity to enforce their consittutional rights when infringed by local governments without having to do so from a jail cell."

This from TFA just today: ----------------------- September 14, 2016 Knxoville Police threaten to arrest Tennessee Handgun Permit Holders who ask if they can enter Chilhowee park armed Members of the Tennessee Firearms Association have sued Knoxville claiming that the city illegally banned handgun permit holders from attending the 2015 State Fair that was being held in Chilhowee Park. TFA members claimed that following a change in the law in 2015, local governments like Knoxville lack the legal authority under a new amendment to a state law (TCA 39-17-1311 and TCA 39-17-1314) to prohibit handgun permit holders from carrying their otherwise legally possessed handguns in a public park. The lawsuit seeks to have Knoxville's gun ban policy declared illegal under state law. The city has challenged the lawsuit by claiming in a motion to dismiss the complaint that the plaintiffs have not "alleged an actual injury, such as being arrested, fined or even turned away by police ..." The city claims that without such actual harm -- i.e., being arrested -- the plaintiffs, even as Tennessee citizens, have no standing to question whether the city was violating state law. On September 13, 2016, seven TFA members approached Chilhowee Park near Gate 8 in the early evening to ask at least three different Knoxville police officers stationed there if they would be arrested if they entered the park as handgun permit holders in possession of their firearms. Three times they were told that they would be arrested even after disclosing that they had state issued handgun permits. The incident was recorded and observed by several witnesses. Specifically, Ray and Kimberly Bergeron discussed the matter with Knoxville Police Department's deputy chief of patrol, Monty Houk, as they stood outside the gate to the fairgrounds. Officer Houk confirmed to them that they would be subject to arrest on a charge of criminal trespassing if they violated Knoxville's ban of firearms in Chilhowee Park. The discussion was video taped. When the risk of imminent arrest was clearly threatened by law enforcement, the TFA members politely thanked the Officer for his assistance and clarification and left peaceably - despite having their 2nd Amendment rights intentionally violated by the City of Knoxville. "It is a travesty that Knoxville apparently did not admit to the trial court that it had established a policy to arrest citizens who have handgun permits and who desired to enter Chilhowee Park so that it became necessasry to have a group of our members go back out to the park with video cameras, witnesses, their handgun permits, their firearms, and purchase tickets just to stand outside the park and ask the Knoxville Police officers stationed there what would happen if they entered Chilhowee Park," said John Harris, Executive Director of the Tennessee Firearms Association. "Government actions like this is why so many Tennesseans are increasingly frustrated with local and state government and are searching for alternatives to the traditional, career politicians who think that they are above the law." "The courts should intervene and protect the constitutional rights of Tennesseans particularly when the state has by law denied any authority to local governments to ban firearms in public Parks" said Harris. "Further, Tennessee's Legislature perhaps should expend a little more time making sure that citizens have the capacity to enforce their consittutional rights when infringed by local governments without having to do so from a jail cell." -------------- - OS

Except in posted lots or school property. That still requires a permit. Also, an employer may ban firearms in its parking lot, and without a permit you have no standing to contest the repercussions of that in court. - OS

Phillipe watch prices make Arpa's stuff seem like pocket change, as you probably guessed. - OS

I've given likes to both David's and ChuckTShoes' first posts in the thread, as they both are valid in their somewhat conflicting ways. But Garufa's best sums up my sentiment for this very day itself. - OS

Vehicle has been deemed for a good long while by TN law as same as home as far as deadly force justification is concerned ... they just finally ended the hypocrisy regarding banning firearms in one of the two. Note that one hypocrisy remains -- the fact that a permit is still required to have firearms in vehicle in posted lots and school property. Under the law, your vehicle somehow loses its status there unless you've paid extra for it. - OS

I'm a higher roller, my favorite Timex is closer to the 30 clam range. - OS

this help? - OS

Yeah, those are Swiss Francs. Which are just over a buck each in USD. He has watches on that site up to almost $25,000. So hey, yer sayin' Monkey ain't worth it? - OS

If it's a 10" barrel, and you ever shoot it low light, you'll likely opt for the latter. - OS

Looks like the Manticore Eclipse. Which is a flash hider, not a brake. But it really really works, amazing actually, from huge fireball to really no flash at all.

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