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Good to know, but quicker to just change whole buffer tube as to wrap/unwrap. - OS

I think you used "pistol" for "rifle" that third time? Anyway, very interesting, but none of that is quite in the area of what I'm needing to know. It all deals with registered NFA short barreled rifles in the first place. I would not be configuring a short barreled rifle at any time. But I would be "retaining the parts" to go from rifle to pistol and back. - OS

No, they didn't do a specific ruling on NEOS as far as I can tell. I don't know for sure if the NEOS situation was a further impetus, have just read it was a factor in issuing the clarification, but they didn't apparently do a special letter just for it, or seems that Beretta would show that for product info. The published opinion is actually just a clarification and expansion on the ruling arising from the Thompson Contender, which is referenced in the document I linked. Wouldn't mind writing the letter, but hate to wait a "few months". I think I'll call local ATF, an agent actually returned my call regarding last question I had about out of state FFL transfer. He knew his stuff on that. I'll also ask about the AR buffer, whether it has to be one that you can't put a buttstock on or whether a normal rifle one sans buttstock complies for the pistol status, just to clear that part up also. - OS

How can it possibly reduce printing since it protrudes out farther from your waistline due to the extra thickness of the belt itself? - OS

They've widened that whole area, now, in an opinion that stems from the Thompson decision. The Beretta NEOS rifle/pistol as I understand it was an impetus for their further ruling. Part of their ruling from: http://www.atf.gov/r...ling-2011-4.pdf Therefore, so long as a parts kit or collection of parts is not used to make a firearm regulated under the NFA (e.g., a short-barreled rifle or “any other weapon†as defined by 26 U.S.C. 5845(e)), no NFA firearm is made when the same parts are assembled or re-assembled in a configuration not regulated under the NFA (e.g., a pistol, or a rifle with a barrel of 16 inches or more in length). Merely assembling and disassembling such a rifle does not result in the making of a new weapon; rather, it is the same rifle in a knockdown condition (i.e., complete as to all component parts). Likewise, because it is the same weapon when reconfigured as a pistol, no “weapon made from a rifle†subject to the NFA has been made. It seems to me, that just as with the Beretta NEOS, as long as the short barrel and rifle stock are not assembled at the same time, seems you can go back and forth. And Lumberjack, even the "constructive possession" of parts seems to have been changed under this ruling. Only a no no when say, the butt stock and the short barrel fall under "when unassembled parts are placed in close proximity" to make an NFA item. So under this interpretation, what is the difference between this: and this: As long as the buttstock and the short barrel are not assembled at the same time? Or to strictest letter of law, as long as the short barrel and the butstock are not in "close proximity" to each other at the same time? - OS

Ah, that's the rule? It's can't be the standard tube that takes sliding butt stock? Well, then you can't go back and forth rifle/pistol with the lower by changing out tube and upper? Opps, from GSE (Gun Smoke Enterprises) not "BSE", which is mentioned a lot in AR pistol discussions, seems to work fine from what I read. http://www.gunsmokeenterprises.net/ - OS

No holster I can think of is designed to be worn with the belt around the outside of the actual handgun. Would add beau coup to belt length necessary, plus makes total thickness of the whole affair more, in no way a plus for IWB or even OWB. - OS

Still toying with making an extra lower into AR pistol. It was listed as just "receiver" on 4473. Couple questions: 1. So, I make an AR pistol. Thinking of something like RRA A4 7" or 10.5" upper. Let's say I use standard length buffer tube maybe cover it with foam sleeve. I understand I can't put a stock on end of the tube. Question: Can I swap back and forth with a complete rifle upper plus stock? Or technically does the "once a rifle" thang come into play here? 2. Or, I do the SBR stamp. Now I can have the pistol upper on there with a stock. Question: I assume I could still run it without the stock, but could I also change the buffer back and forth to one of the short pistol ones like BSE GSE makes? - OS

Starting to look like Storm Sandy may make early voting more important than usual. Unfortunately, polling seems to indicate a much higher participation by Dems in both early voting and absentee ballot requests so far. There's also speculation already of having to extend election period by a day or two and etc in the North East. Is SCOTUS gonna wind up picking the president again? - OS

Roger Dodger, all is clear now. Got the PSA upper in, ran out and shot it yesterday, runs like a watch. You were right, mid length is smooth. Holler when ya want to go sling some more. - OS

Deja Vu to Yu Tu, Kev. They are both your pix. - OS

Right. The Glock 1911 is only available to dark ops guys. - OS

Ah, basic sanity check confirmed, thnx. - OS

Did you not start this .300 blackout thang with the bolt gun you brought out to the range a time or two? At least got rid of the barrel or something? Perhaps I'm confused, I am getting on up there and all. - OS

Depending on instructor, good chance you'll learn more here if you pay attention. That and familiarize yourself with the weapons and self defense/deadly force statutes in TCA. Try not to laugh too hard at the cop/motorist interaction in the vid. But at least it won't be showing a Glock .357 magnum on it any more. - OS

I have enjoyed his guest spots on RedEye at 3am. That's the biggest effect he has had so far on the US general public or national political process. - OS

I've always felt it best to vote while conscious, too. Barackites don't, though. - OS

Well, okay, it wasn't an AR, but it was the former iteration of a blackout rifle. Or maybe you traded it, can't remember, just knew it was a goner. - OS

Slick, man, slick. Hope I get a few rounds through it before you sell it off and start over. - OS

Just rehashed in last few days, attorneys input therein also: http://www.tngunowne...fense-shooting/ - OS

Ah, thanks for that, very nifty indeed! - OS

double tap, oops

Seriously? If so, can't imagine why...

Some people are afraid of damn near everything. Some people may honestly fear for their life in a situation that you or I might shrug off. Some people think BHO is a great president. Point is, the final call ain't based only on where the shooter's head honestly was at the time. And of course, some people shouldn't own guns. But I have to advocate their right to. - OS

Second time I've had occasion to post this pic today. This is me with HP C9 in tactical gansta mode. Just think how much cooler I'd look if it only had that paint job! - OS