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[quote name='zort' timestamp='1351986067' post='838528'] i voted for old gary. id like to see him get 5% of the vote. of course thats wishful thinking. but maybe next election we could get a canidate that represents my beliefs [/quote] He won't get .5%. That's POINT 5, or 1/2 of 1 percent. The most any Libertarian has [i]ever[/i] gotten was 1.06%. And they're the largest third party. - OS

[quote name='6.8 AR' timestamp='1351979395' post='838486'] Maybe so, but I am of the camp that thinks it will be a landslide, come Wednesday morning...[/quote] Gawd, you are still such a Pollyanna. [quote name='6.8 AR' timestamp='1351984772' post='838519'] I don't expect Johnson to get over 1% in most states. [/quote] Maybe New Mexico. Overall will be about like last election, Bob Barr got .4% nationwide. I'd say GJ will get even less, seems voters are even more polarized this time to dump or keep Hussein, even though there are only a few folks in Utah who really really do want Mitt. - OS

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[quote name='Retired Navy GMC' timestamp='1351963780' post='838397'] The $25 is on top of the TICS charge that IL charges. And IL has a FOID (Firearms owner ID) card. which is another $10 and has to be renewed every 10 years. And they have a cool down period of 3 days for long guns and 7 days for handguns (never understood that one). Just that many more reasons not to move to IL. [/quote] Oh, not debating it's "better" here, just that both states infringe considerably, just a matter of degree. IL background check is only $2, though. (btw "TICS" only refers to TN system). I'm predicting that fees will only increase across many states, and that all private sells will be banned within 10 years, no matter who's in power. Maybe in next 4 under BHO. - OS

[quote name='Retired Navy GMC' timestamp='1351954191' post='838336'] .... No state income tax, moderate property taxes is part of the reason why I came to TN when I retired from the Navy. A $10 fee for TICS on a firearms transaction I can deal with. [/quote] $15 more in Cook County ain't exactly off the scale different from TN. Kali charges $25, too. All are of course additional "infringements". - OS

[quote name='SlapChopDonkey' timestamp='1351958567' post='838357'] .... maybe Republicans should nominate a true conservative candidate.[/quote] Because such can not win the presidency anymore. If you think so, you don't understand the US electorate as now exists. No true conservative will ever be president here again until perhaps after a major internal meltdown; if indeed we're still electing presidents at all after that. - OS

[quote name='S&WForty' timestamp='1351914530' post='838182'] Now Morris is sending out alert emails stating things are tightening up in a few states suspecting Obama is getting a boost from looking so kind and lovey in the aftermath of Sandy. One poll had his favorability rise from 48% to 50%. Whatever. [/quote] Gonna be plenty of crow to eat for certain pundits on one side of this election. Just don't know which ones yet. - OS

[quote name='TripleDigitRide' timestamp='1351913742' post='838175'] China appears to have an endless supply. [/quote] It'll end abruptly as soon as they can find a higher return on it. I read where they're throwing a lot more into gold and silver reserves, just like many individuals. - OS

[quote name='mikegideon' timestamp='1351913272' post='838171'] Resurrected Mahahn thread. I like it! [/quote] Deja vu voodo due to brew. - OS

[quote name='MattCary' timestamp='1351899760' post='838016'] ...Also, how many thought nothing could have been worse than President Hilary. Boy, was I wrong.[/quote] Echo that. I almost voted for BHO in Dem primary. Thought it may have been more important to nuke Hildebeeste than to choose GOP candidate. She would have won easily too. - OS

[quote name='6.8 AR' timestamp='1351912641' post='838162'] Right, they know how many votes have been cast and by exit polling they can get close to who is winning. [/quote] They can also get how many of party registered voters voted in states that have that. Apparently they can also get how many of just previously "primary registered" one like in TN and Ohio and etc actually voted. That's pretty iffy though. Lots of Dems and Republicans cross over in primaries in states where you can do that -- I almost voted for BHO in Dem primary in 08 just to help nuke Hildebeeste. How little I knew, eh? - OS

[quote name='TripleDigitRide' timestamp='1351911568' post='838143'] We have the Bush administration to thank for that. They could have pulled Hitler from the grave, stamped "Democrat" on his forehead, and he would have beat any Republican candidate. There was no wa in hell this country was going to vote for a Republican after the **** Bush got us into. [/quote] Yup. Jesus himself would have lost in a landslide running under GOP. - OS

[quote name='Mike.357' timestamp='1351911841' post='838147'] we don't need luck with it. NJ does. Christie is crapping his britches about the NJ problems. [/quote] And he needs to get reelected there in 2014 before any other higher aspirations. - OS

[quote name='Dennis1209' timestamp='1351901206' post='838029'] [font=MS Reference Sans Serif][size=3][color=#000000]It was a beautiful fall day the beginning of November 2012! It was 2:30 P.M. and the temperature was 64 degrees, with clear blue skies and a light breeze. Not a care in the world, just enjoying the day with my family and life in general this weekend.[/color][/size][/font] [font=MS Reference Sans Serif][size=3][color=#000000]My wife suggests I get the BBQ grill out and do some chicken for dinner while she prepares some potato salad and baked beans. Hey, that sounds great to me I’m getting hungry. But first she asks me to get the mail from the mail box, as she seen the mailman stop at the mail box 200 yards down the gravel driveway a few minutes ago. [/color][/size][/font] [size=4][font=MS Reference Sans Serif][color=#000000]Living in the country is great but, walking 400 yards or so round trip to the mailbox and transporting the garbage to the can on the road for pick up can be a pain, however… Our son is in the Army serving in Afghanistan and we are anxious to see if we received a letter from him. [/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=MS Reference Sans Serif][color=#000000]As I finished dumping the charcoal into the grill and stacking it before I lit it, I went inside to wash the coal dust off my hands so I didn’t transfer the black grime onto the mail to complete my marching orders. [/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=MS Reference Sans Serif][color=#000000]It’s time now to interject my personal habits. When out and about in public places, I’m always armed, be it my Kimber 1911, .45, a Glock 26 or my Ruger Sp101 .357. In my dwelling I’m prepared to protect my wife and myself. I faithfully use my ADT alarm system and always have a firearm with in close reach. Now that the kids have flown the coop, I need not worry about firearm security, just strategic placement of my weapons. I take my personal protection and that of my families very seriously. [/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=MS Reference Sans Serif][color=#000000]With clean hands and the BBQ pit ready to be doused with lighter fluid when I return from getting the mail, off I go on my 400-yard trek. [/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=MS Reference Sans Serif][color=#000000]About half way down the gravel driveway just to the left of the driveway I have a ¼ acre pond stocked with bass, bluegill and catfish. I keep a five-gallon pickle bucket filled with catfish food I feed them about every 2-3 days. So, I decided to stop and throw a few handfuls of catfish food into the pond. [/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=MS Reference Sans Serif][color=#000000]After feeding the fish I continue on to get my wife’s primary request accomplished and head again toward the mail box another 100 yards or so ahead.[/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=MS Reference Sans Serif][color=#000000]As I get to within about 25 yards of my mailbox on the country road, I hear a loud exhaust that sounds like it’s heading towards me on the road. [/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=MS Reference Sans Serif][color=#000000]As I approach the mailbox I finally see the vehicle making all that noise as it is approaching me by the country road mailbox. I’m 200 yards away from my house and the wife is in the kitchen making the side dishes. My closest neighbor is ¼ mile away. [/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=MS Reference Sans Serif][color=#000000]This old beat up blue and white car with a cracked windshield and loud muffler comes up and stops near me. I can see there are two occupants in the vehicle, both are disheveled looking and I’m very uneasy.[/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=MS Reference Sans Serif][color=#000000]As their car starts to creep toward me on the road and gets close to the mailbox, and me the driver shouts out something I could not quite make out. [/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=MS Reference Sans Serif][color=#000000]At this point in my mind I’m thinking, “with all the guns you have, here you are whistling Dixie”. As an old man with bad knees, rapid flight out of harms way is out of the question should the need arise. [/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=MS Reference Sans Serif][color=#000000]The car finally creaks to a stop next to me close to my mailbox. I get a good look at the two occupants. I’m not one to profile but, my heart started to race and I was thinking of my options. I could see the driver’s eyes, they were dark and dead like a sharks. Every fiber of my being was shouting these are two people to avoid at all costs. [/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=MS Reference Sans Serif][color=#000000]They finally spoke and said, “ do you know such and such where they live”? I replied, no I don’t. They asked, “do you know how to get to…” No I don’t. I then realized for sure they were phishing for a victim. [/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=MS Reference Sans Serif][color=#000000]The passenger was now opening and getting out of the passenger door. The driver was asking me if I could spare any money because they were just about out of gas. [/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=MS Reference Sans Serif][color=#000000]With heart pounding out of my chest I’m thinking, I’m in big trouble, what should I do? [/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=MS Reference Sans Serif][color=#000000]Just being around my house and not intending to go anywhere that day, I had my wallet on my dresser, not thinking I would ever need it, much less a firearm! [/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=MS Reference Sans Serif][color=#000000]Then it happened! The passenger was out of that piece of crap car with gun in hand, the driver exited in a flash with his own gun. I can’t tell you how slow motion is when your life is threatened![/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=MS Reference Sans Serif][color=#000000]The few words I remember is, “give me your F***** Money now A******” And repeated a half dozen times. [/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=MS Reference Sans Serif][color=#000000]Me being me and between being scared crapless and now at the point I’ll either need to beg for my life or stand up to them, I chose the later, bad decision. [/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=MS Reference Sans Serif][color=#000000]Either one or both could have made pulpwood out of me with just a few punches, but they chose not to. [/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=MS Reference Sans Serif][color=#000000]There is a bright light and tunnel vision come to find out as I was feeling a very hot burning sensation in my chest and in my head. I don’t think it was raining, but I was getting very wet and cold. [/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=MS Reference Sans Serif][color=#000000]The next thing I recall is floating, yes floating, over me? I’m looking at “me” lying there soaked in blood, just floating about with no control where I “float”? [/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=MS Reference Sans Serif][color=#000000]I’m thinking, I’m in no pain and why am I laying down there on the ground covered in red? [/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=MS Reference Sans Serif][color=#000000]As I had another brief moment of awareness as they were going through my pockets, why didn’t I at least slip my SP101 in my waistband before I left the house? [/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=MS Reference Sans Serif][color=#000000]I own self-protection tools, now my children have to divide them up? [/color][/font][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#000000]Think it can’t happen? Think it can’t happen to you? Think again.[/color][/size][/font] [/quote] [quote name='LINKS2K' timestamp='1351903406' post='838051'] You're going to hate this post when that buzz wears off. [/quote] Quoted for posterior. I mean, posterity. - OS

[quote name='TrickyNicky' timestamp='1351902491' post='838043'] WTF was that? I'm confused, are you alright? [/quote] No he's dead. Proves the "inter" part of internet extends very far indeed - OS

[quote name='analog_kidd' timestamp='1351896523' post='837987'] I would think without a set of lungs providing oxygen, the brain would die pretty quick. Maybe the tanks and the electrical equipment provide the oxygen somehow. Still, Michonne's pets' heads were there too and I'm sure they didn't get into the tank right away. [/quote] It's clear you haven't read the American Zombie Rule Book. How are you on vampires and werewolves? - OS

[quote name='mav' timestamp='1351907630' post='838095'] Fine. Why do I think Romney will when? Well, it has nothing to do with any kind of polling or the current info (or the lack thereof) on the news channels. Call me a naive fool, but I still believe that a majority of Americans have not lost their commonsense. Obama has been a 100% total f***up. You guys know from my posts during this election cycle that I am no Republican shill, therefore when I say I can't think of one damn thing Obama has done that I agree with, it is not some b.s. partisan rhetoric. If I am wrong and Americans have lost their commonsense, virtue, or they have become so complacent in having their lives subsidized by taxpayers, then I honestly believe that America doesn't deserve to make it. I wish I could say something else Mac, but I really can't. I have no statistical analysis to back up my feeling. Yes, I am aware of all the polling you and AR have mentioned. However, considering how corrupt this administration has been, and how accommodating the media has been towards the administration, I don't put any faith in the polling data. [/quote] Much better. I can't get around the fact that the media is electing the president this time. It's been four years of covering his azz, and more intense all the time. FoxNews has stood alone in the TV market. If all folks get is network news at 6:30, they get BHO, simple as that, and nobody listens to conservative talk radio unless they already lean that way. There's a reason Christians mostly come from Christian families and Muslims mostly come from Islamic ones. Four years of indoctrination ain't a lifetime, but it's plenty of time to swing the vote. - OS

[quote name='mav' timestamp='1351905469' post='838082'] I am fairly confident Romney has this one. If by some chance I am wrong and Obama wins, well... this country will have changed too much for the worse and doesn't deserve to make it. [/quote] C'mon Mav, and folks, play by my rules, okay? Give some reasons behind your pick. About half are just wishing, just like the previous polls I suspect. - OS

[quote name='6.8 AR' timestamp='1351904544' post='838065'] Exit polling, Mac. The other about the 250,000 deficit was state on one I did hear on the radio. I don't know much more than that, but exit polling and votes cast should be know to the Secy. of State of Ohio. [/quote] Well, they're guessing from last primary turnout "registration" and exit polling, very sketchy, but whatever, even FOX poll averages this evening show Mitt a point or two behind in Ohio. No single poll shows him even or ahead, and certainly FOX pushes its prime time agenda when it can. But it's moot about all that. It's close, very close. - OS

[quote name='6.8 AR' timestamp='1351898969' post='838009'] .... Ohio: Obama has 250,000 less early voters this time and Republicans are up by 30-50,000 voters in this one. [/quote] All credible info I find is that this is not likely true. That Romney is up overall in early voting, but BHO is ahead in at least 3 swing states, including Ohio. Ohio is not as easy to track though, since it doesn't register by party, only on choice of last primary, like TN. - OS

As a refresher, here were the TGO results from the 60 day and 30 day out polls. Remember, these were supposed to be about who you honestly thought [u]will[/u] win, not who you [u]hope[/u] will win (but I'm not sure that's what actually resulted). ----------------------------------------------------------------- [img]http://routedriver.home.comcast.net/pub/misc/election/60days.gif[/img] [img]http://routedriver.home.comcast.net/pub/misc/election/30days.gif[/img] ------------------------------------------------- So the election is down to the wire. Here's a last chance to opine about who's gonna be the next US President. Not a poll, but rather [size=5][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]let's hear [b][u]WHY[/u][/b] you think so.[/font][/size] ------------------------------------------------ [b]My prediction: [/b]Obama by a narrow edge 274 to 264 electoral votes, there's better than 50/50 chance Mitt will win the popular votes, and the final tally will look like this: [img]http://routedriver.home.comcast.net/pub/misc/election/myprediction.gif[/img] Just doesn't look "fair", does it? --------------------------------------------- A few reasons as far as this stage in the game: - As I've said all along, Mitt can't beat the media. The Benghazi thing is latest big example -- the mainstream media has been in protect mode on this since it broke, and even though they are now being forced to start covering it more, it's too late to affect the election. This is beginning very much to remind me of Watergate, which started to stink right before Nixon's reelection. - The last couple month's worth of economic indices, while still quite dismal, have given BHO just enough to tout "improvement". - Mitt just isn't the guy. Too many minuses -- it's almost like the entire GOP process ferreted out the only crop of contenders during the primary process who could[i] not[/i] beat this weakened president. I think McCain would be in about the same place at Mitt now had he been selected again, maybe even better, with just a campaign of "I Told You So Four Years Ago". - BHO's three day media blitz "fixing" Hurricane Sandy, along with Christie's glowing comments, have given him temp warm fuzzies at just the right time, although you can already see it perhaps devolving into a similar critical mess in overall response just like as per Katrina. - Ohio, Ohio, Ohio. It's all going to come down to Ohio, assuming that Mitt doesn't get surprised in FL, VA, or NC too. Between Mitt's rep on the auto bailout and some pretty damn questionable stuff he's putting out now about auto jobs going to China, Ohio's unemployment rate of "only" 7%, and etc, I think BHO will squeak it out. - The Dems have the better org to get the vote out on election day. - Did I mention Ohio? ------------------- Many more reasons, but those will do. How 'bout y'all. [size=5][b]Why[/b][/size] do you think your man will win? (btw, if you want to play with the electoral vote thing as per the map above go to: [url="http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2012/ecalculator#?battleground"]http://www.cnn.com/E...r#?battleground[/url] - OS

[quote name='RoDan' timestamp='1351885659' post='837924'] Funny thing though... with the coupon, the purchase of both sights is less than 90 bucks. Therefore, with shipping being 10 bucks or so, it is more expensive by about 5 bucks. [/quote] Find something else cheap you can use. - OS

[quote name='footbasebasket' timestamp='1351883606' post='837910'] .... He told us it routinely took 2-4 weeks for the State of TN to send us our certifications of course completion after he submitted our grades to them.[/quote] Wow, I can't believe how blatant he was. (Of course the instructor issues the certs right after completion of the class, you have them in hand when you leave). - OS

You can do personal firearm sales from a table. The promoter doesn't care. Any legal hassle would be on you, not him. - OS

G17/19 are among the iconic handguns ever made. The finger grooves don't groove with me though; and never could find a Gen2 when I first got back "into" guns, wound up with 3 different XD 9s. Love 'em. Revised to say "if that's what you decide you like" nobody here in their right mind will try to talk you out of a Glock, especially a 19. - OS