Oh Shoot

  Here's your problem, and you've already paraphrased part of what I'll say.   The only time you can use deadly force to protect yourself or another is when you have a reasonable fear of imminent (immediate) death or serious bodily injury.   When someone forcibly enters your home (and they don't have to "break in" for it to be "forcibly") TN "castle law" gives you the presumption that you had that fear.   However, that doesn't mean it gives you the absolute right to do it. For example, it doesn't give you the right to off someone who you knew was really not posing the deadly threat mentioned above. And here you have the problem that it is the lady's grandson, who has a long history of being there, etc, so in no way is this going to be seen the same as some stranger appearing in your bedroom in the middle of the night.   In short, that "presumption" in the law is just that. It's not a absolute license to execute someone, and the long precedence of his non-violent appearances would not be a factor on your side by a long shot.   And always remember, it's not only YOUR call as to whether you had that "reasonable fear".   If it were me, I'd try to convince her to get an order of protection ("restraining order") against him if he just won't follow her wishes. Then when he shows again, it's an arrestable offense, etc, and see how that goes.   Seriously, I'd try every legal recourse to change the situation.   - OS

  I echo that. I had two made by them way back when, with extra pair of pants for each. Lasted many years, hell, probably maybe most of my life if I hadn't gotten fat.   They began in 1928!   - OS

Wish you were my size Neil, I have two or three quality suits I don't think I've actually worn at all I've been trying to decide best way to get something for.  (had to do with a gig that didn't work out in the past).   - OS

  Well, unless folks seriously think we'll torture him, he doesn't have to say jack, Miranda or not.   - OS

  He's only listed in "serious" condition. That generally means not expected to croak.   - OS

  Sorry, dunno where I got 2,100, getting on up there I guess:     you said "1,400 rounds for $20" (post 48), but my comment still pert accurate, been many a year since we've seen that kind of price.   - OS

  Already debate about how to handle it. Lindsay Graham already chimed in that he should be treated as enemy combatant.

  They actually will respond, talked to a per nice feller from there couple times (he returned my calls).   - OS

  And he's an American citizen.   - OS

  That would be some irony, eh?   But methinks he'd be waaaayyyy down on the list for some reason or other. ;)   - OS

  I'll never pay that. Seriously. Will shoot at birdies with golf clubs instead.   - OS

  Dumbasses. It's so hard to get good help these days, especially from gooberment.

"has had 40 hours of basic school policing training"   Who's the vendor for that? (fix in to line some pockets?)   - OS

Ya know, if these jokers had just disguised themselves well, they might have gotten away with it. When I saw the first pix, I thought that maybe they had, but no.   All the folks who know them that have talked so far were all astounded it was them, so if they hadn't had a realistic pic to put two and two together, who knows.   - OS

  ONE shot. Through side, not bottom, please, easier to fix.

  Nope, it's glass. Heavy damn boat for its size.   - OS

  Mine's sitting out at Mikey's, needs lots of repair anyway so you can do a test shot.   I'm pert sure just a Tula.223 FMJ would go right through, probably both sides.   - OS

Picture looks like common open ~18' ski boat/runabout with windshield to me. - OS

  Sounds like they've already fired a bunch? If so why ain't he dead? A fiberglass or aluminum runabout ain't stopping .223 and .308.   Maybe all the gunfire has come from the kid?   - OS

  Well, technically he cribbed it from Gospel of Mark. :)   - OS

  Everything is in this thread:   http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/60282-tn-bill-to-remove-restrictions-on-knife-possession-and-carry/   Short answer: the preemption is the only thing that survived in final bill for enactment.   - OS

Never understood how the fat doesn't go rancid, regardless of what kind you use?   Or maybe it actually does, but just isn't objectionable or harmful?

Thread has no credence, didn't use "marshal", or per usual misspell it as "marshall".   :) :)

  Whatever that all means.   My "no way" comment was in response to your saying that the 2,100 round bucket o' bullets was $20 pre panic.   Unless you consider around 1975 as "pre panic".   - OS

You don't think they can't simply get a search warrant in minutes? Probably already thought ahead on that just in case, may have blanket ones already signed on scene.   Besides, this is MA:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBdpINm9UBU   - OS