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One night in Birmingham Al, what shouldn't I miss?
Oh Shoot replied to vontar's topic in General Chat
Is Birmingham still open after its county bankruptcy? - OS -
?? Private handgun sale to 18 year old is legit here. - OS
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Yep, that would work fine compared to what we have. - OS
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Finding something you really want on Ebay and its not buy it now
Oh Shoot replied to Rightwinger's topic in General Chat
eBay only acknowledged auction site data was compromised to the news, not PayPal. Course, they didn't even acknowledge to users that anything happened, just that needed to change password. I changed both myself -- PayPal is where double jeopardy starts after all. - OS -
Don't really see why ya wouldn't stay with 7.62x39 with AK pistol myself, though. Quite a bit better bite for the bark. - OS
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- AKs do not need a buffer tube to attach a SIG brace, although that is one method of doing it with an adapter to the trunnion. - SIG sells a piston 5.56 AR with buffer tube unnecessary for its operation specifically to allow attachment of the SIG brace. - SIG sells a .22LR AR pistol with buffer tube unnecessary for its operation specifically to allow attachment of the SIG brace. Methinks you fret about future decisions that have already been circumvented by previous ones. The brace is legal "when attached to a firearm". No limitations on attachment type was specified in the ruling. - OS
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TN doesn't have any more stringent laws than federal: - Seller must not have knowledge or reasonable suspicion that the buyer is not TN resident, prohibited from owning firearms, or a minor. Buyer must not have knowledge or reasonable suspicion that firearm is stolen. Gray area IMO: whether buyer knows or has reasonable suspicion that seller is not TN resident. - Can sell either handgun or long gun to 18 year old and older. No sales to minors, though they may be gifted to them for lawful sporting purposes. IOW, you do not have to ask for ID to check residency or age. But most agree it's a good idea, including myself. That's really about it that I can think of. - OS
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No, for YOUR info, though AR config was mentioned in the questions and/or submission, the wording in the decisions do not mention AR at all: First one to Alex Bosco: "Base on our evaluation, FTB finds that the submitted forearm brace, when attached to a firearm, does not convert that weapon to be fired from the shoulder and would not alter the classification of a pistol or other firearm." Second one to Joe Bradley: "...we have determined that firing a pistol from the shoulder would not cause the pistol to be reclassified as an SBR." Nowhere are the decisions limited to an AR type pistol -- words do mean things, and quite precisely so in the legal realm. - OS
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1. Nothing attached to the butt of a firearm has every been ruled illegal except a stock on a short barreled firearm or device that allows more than one bullet to be fired from one trigger pull. 2. the SIG brace as been ruled as not a stock when attached to "a firearm" (not just an "AR firearm") and that firing "a pistol" from the shoulder with it is also not illegal (not just an "AR pistol"). 3. Thus, the brace and anything that would attach it are not illegal separately or together on any pistol. That's why the AK version has not required a separate letter. At this point about all the ATF could do to reverse its two decisions on the matter and thus to make it illegal on any firearm is to declare that the SIG brace is indeed actually a stock, and oops sorry we blew it. :) - OS
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Totally different matter. This is regarding persons who are prohibited from owning firearms period. - OS
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Well, you can opine that, but unless someone can point out an actual reference in federal law, I'll continue to contend it is not illegal in and of itself. It's not even illegal for me to buy a firearm in private sale in another state, if I don't bring it back into TN (though it would be illegal for the seller to knowingly do so). USC 18 922: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/922 If any definitions are needed for clarification, USC 18 921: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/921 - OS
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Out of state resident would be committing clear cut crime selling the firearm here. However, I know of no prohibition under 18 USC 922 or other federal law, for KahrMan to have bought the firearms, even if he knew the seller was a Michigan resident. Pretty sure this is one of those "things that everybody knows" that simply isn't true. The only thing I know that would have made it illegal for KahrMan is to have bought them if he "knew or had reasonable cause to believe" the firearms were stolen. I suppose if ultimate push came to shove, there is some other section of federal or TN law that one could be charged with, like abetting a criminal act or something, but it doesn't seem to be illegal per se under federal law to buy firearms in your home state from an out of state resident, even if you know the seller is such. - OS
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URGENT - Permit-less Car Carry in the Senate Tomorrow
Oh Shoot replied to wk05's topic in 2A Legislation and Politics
Is it going to be visible? Meaning, nowadays if somebody tries to steal it, and can't, might trash it in spite? And if visible at all, all the more likely you'll have at least a broken window? - OS -
URGENT - Permit-less Car Carry in the Senate Tomorrow
Oh Shoot replied to wk05's topic in 2A Legislation and Politics
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Though I don't hunt and don't claim to be up to date on all hunting regs, I must still take exception to that statement. Seems clear that regardless of hunting regulations, it is lawful to carry any handgun with permit at any time on any state managed lands, whether you have a hunting license or not. In other words, carrying a handgun under auspices of permit is totally separate lawful behavior, regardless of any hunting regulations. Under the wildlife section of TCA, note exception in red -- this was added a few years ago, I think during same session that allowed handgun carry in state parks. ============ 70-4-117. Possession of weapons in areas inhabited by big game -- Penalty. (a) It is unlawful for any person to be in possession of any firearm, bow and arrow, shotgun or rifle in, on, or while traversing any refuge, public hunting area or wildlife management area frequented or inhabited by big game, except during specified or lawful open seasons on these areas. Any person violating this section is guilty of hunting big game and shall be punished as provided for in subsections ( b ) and ( c ). ( b ) (1) A violation of this section is a Class B misdemeanor. (2) It is mandatory upon the court to impose the prison sentence, upon conviction for a second or subsequent offense, and the prison sentence is not subject to suspension. ( c ) In the prosecution of a second or subsequent offense, the indictment or presentment must allege the prior conviction for violating any of the provisions of this section, setting forth the time and place of each such prior conviction. The court shall prohibit such convicted person, either a first or subsequent offender, from hunting, fishing or trapping in this state for a period of one (1) year. (d) Notwithstanding subsection (a), a person with a handgun carry permit pursuant to § 39-17-1351 may possess a handgun the entire year while on the premises of any refuge, public hunting area, wildlife management area or, to the extent permitted by federal law, national forest land maintained by the state. Nothing in this subsection (d) shall authorize a person to use any handgun to hunt unless the person is in full compliance with all wildlife laws, rules and regulations. (e) Nothing in this section shall authorize a person with a hand gun carry permit to possess such weapon in the portion of any refuge, public hunting area or wildlife management area that is within the boundaries of a state park or state natural area unless otherwise authorized in accordance with state law. [which it is] (f) Nothing in this section shall authorize a person to access any area unless the person is in full compliance with all current wildlife laws, rules, proclamations and regulations. =========== - OS
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Finding something you really want on Ebay and its not buy it now
Oh Shoot replied to Rightwinger's topic in General Chat
Seems like a pretty good score, I figgered would go higher, glad I was wrong. - OS -
Finding something you really want on Ebay and its not buy it now
Oh Shoot replied to Rightwinger's topic in General Chat
My determined sweet spot for ending actions is 10pm eastern on Sunday. I think after I had been doing that for a while, I read it was indeed one of the highest traffic time periods. And sure enough, I was selling some nice antique camera stuff for someone else on percentage one time, and the site crashed for about a minute right during actions ending, and a couple of the items went for a song compared to what they would have gotten. Even had some failed bidders get in touch afterward, when you could still do that after close of auctions. - OS -
Finding something you really want on Ebay and its not buy it now
Oh Shoot replied to Rightwinger's topic in General Chat
Probably with smart phone in hand. ;) -
Finding something you really want on Ebay and its not buy it now
Oh Shoot replied to Rightwinger's topic in General Chat
Looks like at least 8 discrete bidders (showing), so it will almost undoubtedly go quite a bit higher. Note that at least half of highly contested auctions are won by someone making one lone snipe bid, right at end of auction. Many are from the numerous auto sniping apps you can use, set your high bid and forget about it, makes the bid in last 5 seconds for you. Same as you have done, I guess, by making your high bid and letting it override lesser ones automatically, but without showing one's presence there at all until the final seconds. Hope ya get it for what you're willing to pay. Top rated seller with 100% FB of almost a grand, so certainly seems about as credible as you can find there. - OS -
Well, a legal rifle by definition measures over 26" in OAL and has 16" or greater length barrel. OAL of a rifle of course includes the stock. And a SIG brace on an AR pistol does not count in OAL (they can be extended past the end of the buffer tube). - OS
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Entire length of firearm that includes only the necessary functional parts from butt to end of barrel. - A muzzle device does not count in OAL unless permanently attached according to ATF specs, as only a permanently attached one is considered part of the barrel - Nothing has ever been ruled as adding to the ass end of a firearm for OAL except a grip or stock. - ATF measures OAL on long guns with folding or extendable stocks with stock unfolded and/or at full extent (at least one state, though, Michigan, measures at smallest config). Since an AR pistol can have no stock, it's measured from end of buffer tube to end of barrel (which includes any permanently attached muzzle device). A gray area seems to be for AR or AK pistols that do not need a buffer tube or other extension for operation, but have one added to accommodate say the SB15 brace. - OS
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Ya know, if I were willing to make the leap to a commitment to that caliber, I might just do it! I certainly wouldn't be the first to do it, though. - OS
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No stamp required for an AR (or AK) pistol. Really there are only a few basic considerations: - If not buying a complete new one directly from manufacturer, you must make it with a lower that was not first configured as a rifle, so start with a new virgin lower to erase all doubt. Once first configured as a pistol, the lower may also be used to make a rifle and even go back and forth between pistol and rifle at any time. - You cannot use a vertical forward grip on a pistol, unless it has a legal over all length of 26" or more, then it's okay, becomes a legal "firearm" while the VFG is attached. The popular Magpul AFG is legal on any pistol, as it has been ruled as not being a VFG. - The SIG SB15 brace (or similar for AK) that you now see on so many pistols, has been ruled as not a stock, and even further ruled as specifically legal to be used fired from the shoulder. Post any other questions. - OS
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Yeah, very amiable group of fellers, nice feel to the place. - OS