Oh Shoot

  NFA was our first gift from Chicago, the city that keeps on giving.   - OS

  Note that's not the SBX brace as per topic. Matter of fact, the SBX will not reach the flange on the KAK super tube, though functionally that doesn't matter. The spacers would still work with it, but with about .6" less extension.   - OS

  Maybe Yamaha shouldn't have barrel seemingly pointed at instructor's head, too?   - OS

Note this is NOT on an official UT domain site of course: http://tennessee.247sports.com/Article/Tennesse-Vols-football-players-rested-after-bye-week-redneck-fun-32909848 - OS

Midway is showing a listing for SBX in FDE, so maybe that means it's coming. Don't see why it won't, just as with the SB-15. Anything to sell more of them, eh?   http://www.midwayusa.com/product/538448/sig-sauer-sbx-pistol-stabilizing-brace-ar-15-flat-dark-earth   - OS

  Federally, technically seems certainly yes, as there is no barrel length or OAL mandated for a handgun and it's clear that a carbine buffer tube is not unlawful on a pistol. It's not a defense I would necessarily shout from the heavens or even ask ATF for an opinion on, but it is one mentioned frequently as being perfectly in line with federal law and rulings and I suppose push come to shove they'd have to suck it up and publicly agree.   There is I suppose the technical definition of a handgun in TN law of a handgun having under a 12" barrel, but on the other hand it doesn't say what it becomes if it is, or that you can't make a differently configured pistol from whatever it is either, so as in all other situations I know of, TN defaults to federal firearm definitions and rulings.   There is also of course, the sheer extraordinary evidence if would take to prove someone who bought a virgin lower actually did something unlawful with the pistol/rifle thing in the first place. Like folks documenting it on the internet. ;) ;)   Before 1992 it was much simpler for them on this issue and also "constructive possession" -- once a rifle, always a rifle and any possible illegal configuration prosecutable. It speaks volumes about the culture of the agency that they didn't actually publicly acknowledge these changes until 2011, IMNSHO.   - OS

  Well, it's only a "defense" -- same as your HCP is for unlawful carry.   - OS

  Ummm, he was charged, eh?   You can ask "why" for any state law I guess.  Because they want to make sure TN can charge them even if the Feds don't I guess? It's a Class E felony, independent of any federal charge.   - OS

  Their complete pistols sold through Primary Arms have gotten overall very good press on arfcom pistol forum. Only carp was that on some, handguards were very slightly lower than upper receiver rails. Hard to beat the price with buying upper separately I'd say.   https://www.primaryarms.com/Complete_AR_15_Pistols_s/6686.htm   - OS

  The state wants to be able to charge you for violation independent of federal law though.   - OS

  Not necessarily, I didn't paste entire thing:   "Every motor vehicle having a windshield shall be equipped with two (2) windshield wipers for cleaning rain, snow or other moisture from the windshield in order to provide clear vision for the driver, unless one (1) windshield wiper cleans to within one inch (1'') of each side of windshield."   - OS

    Seems true enough, a search for windshield in TCA only reveals:   "55-9-203.  Windshield must be equipped with wipers -- Penalty.   (a) Every motor vehicle having a windshield shall be equipped with two (2) windshield wipers ...."   - OS

  You'd have to go to FFL who did it and ask him. But it doesn't matter. As Dolo suggested, what an FFL puts on 4473, correctly or incorrectly, doesn't actually determine legal classification of a firearm, nor the legality of a particular future configuration of it. If you're sure it was a new virgin lower,  you're good.     Several reasons, but mainly because a firearm can't be a handgun or long gun without an attached barrel, simple as that.  The "other firearm" category wasn't even there until 8/2008. It was actually a much belated change to come into line with SCOTUS decision regarding pistol/rifle some 16 years previously, and with the actual CFRs written to explain USC.   Also, 2 or more "handgun" purchases in same 5 days triggers another form that must be submitted.   - OS

  No. Brace is discrete product. Anything else is bundled as a kit by the retailer, whether SIG or others.   People use a variety of buffer tubes with them. Have even seen a few with rifle tubes, though you have to use a round or two of tape to build up diameter of tube a little.   - OS

  He said 55-4-110 ( c )   "( c )  (1) Except as provided in subdivision ( c )(2), for all motor vehicles that are factory-equipped to illuminate the registration plate, the registration plate shall be illuminated at all times that headlights are illuminated.    (2) Subdivision ( c )(1) shall not apply to any antique motor vehicle as defined in § 55-4-111( B )"   - OS

  Well, ideally sure. But even if this decision stands, it will not change things for other states out of that federal district that also require "proof of need" for a permit.   Of course, infringement always a matter of degree, eh? Like here in TN where we have to pay for the privilege, and even then face criminal charges for carrying in MANY locations.   - OS

  It's also automated in the drop down menu under Special BBcode button.   - OS

  Ah, well, if the shot were from the other side, might have had a clue.   But anyway, why not? Except for no quick collapsible function (so far), I find the SB-15 brace just as comfy misused against shoulder as a standard hard back AR stock, and the SBX slightly more so!   - OS

  Yeah, it's a cool idea. I haven't been able to find out its natural length though. Meaning, if you have to offset the brace past end of tube just to get same minimum LOP as KAK tube or what.   For example, the Phase 5 Hex tube is shorter than the KAK, but it's designed to offset the tube from the gitgo to get about same length as non-offset KAK. But the KAK with the spacers allows you increase even that securely.   Also note that if using the SBX brace, no forward retention is necessary on any tube, assuming the tube is long enough to suit you without offsetting it.   - OS

  What's that about? Something in the comics?   - OS

Brace seems to sit high on tube for some reason, perhaps charging handle can't clear brace? Probably illusion of angle. Nothing else I can see, except seems to be 12" or longer barrel, which would I suppose technically negate its carry on person via an HCP here. I also don't see a BCG in it, but that's probably just a quirk of the photo also? - OS

Nobody answered when I asked before ... so again, can one of you summarize the advantages of this type config over conventional AR one?   tia,   - OS

Being always years behind any trend, I just use Kindle app on my laptop. Price can't be beat. ;)   Also though, the Luddite attraction of cheap real books from thrift stores and McKays is hard to break. :)   - OS

Well, "proving a need" was struck down in California by federal court, and they are now "shall issue".  Only problem right now is the huge backlog of applications.   Somebody needs to get this into court for the DC district too.   - OS

Yes and no. You can even build it with the intent to sale or trade, as long as it does not fit the conditions of "being in the business". "The term “engaged in the business” means— ...as applied to a manufacturer of firearms, a person who devotes time, attention, and labor to manufacturing firearms as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the sale or distribution of the firearms manufactured" "The term “with the principal objective of livelihood and profit” means that the intent underlying the sale or disposition of firearms is predominantly one of obtaining livelihood and pecuniary gain, as opposed to other intents, such as improving or liquidating a personal firearms collection"   That is correct. I am not a lawyer. I have no legal advice. The ATF decides if they prosecute you for being in the business without a license. Note however, there is no difference between this and simply selling a firearm you bought at retail -- you could be prosecuted for either if they feel they can prove you did it just for the bucks, and AFAIK the penalty is the same for either. - OS