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My notes from a funny (friendly) argument with an anti-gun.
mrmoetn replied to Viracnis's topic in General Chat
Even with the "holie' logic", I fail to understand why a large proportion of individuals involved in this discussion, at all levels, do not see the comparison. Good job on the research and presentation. Also a huge Kudo for being willing to discuss this with folks and to examine the effectiveness of your tactics and adjust your fire accordingly. We must not let the lack of understanding or our perception of being over-run by opponents on this issue keep us from pressing on. 2 Kings 6:16-17 “Don’t be afraid!†Elisha told him. “For there are more on our side than on theirs!†17Then Elisha prayed, “O LORD, open his eyes and let him see!†The LORD opened the young man’s eyes, and when he looked up, he saw that the hillside around Elisha was filled with horses and chariots of fire. mrmoetn -
Saw a new make (to me) of tactical flashlight at the gun show in Dyersburg this weekend. Tact Out was the brand and they looked pretty good and were offered at a reasonable price. Several models to choose from, usually sold as kits with mounting hardware, pressure switch, re-chargable batteries, charger, light with tail cap switch.....for around $100 - $130. The brightest one we looked at was 500 lumens. Looked really clean and bright (as best as I could see in the light of day in a lighted building). Looked promising. I searched the site (the flashlight thread specifically) and came up empty. Anybody had any experience with Tact-Out Flashlights?
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That sounds kinda fun. Where are you acquiring your kydex sheets? Do you by chance have a link detailing the process you're using?
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Multi Forum survival bushcraft campout 5/14-5/16
mrmoetn replied to Jonsaiga's topic in Survival and Preparedness
Here's another one I have been looking at for some time. Not so much "survivalist" but old ways... Primitive Skills | Earthskills Rendezvous -
Here's North Jackson at 1530ish today. There was nothing on the ground when I went to bed at 01:30ish and sleet at 0600...
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Sometimes I get sucked into that line of thinking in various areas of life...i like it...it's fun...maybe i can make a nickel...it's my duty to give back...THEN it turns into a job...and the fun is sucked right out of it and before long it's a large hassle the thought of doing whatever it is absolutely sickens me and the next thing I know...what used to be fun etc. is yesterday's hobby...my .02
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+1 hot science chick...
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Have any of you read Matthew Bracken's Books,the Enemies Foreign and Domestic trilogy? They portray life as you are describing it...The first one is a lead in and the second two are dealing with exactly what you all are describing. Luckily some of his characters live to see the end of the plot and the other side of the collapse but the scenarios that they encounter are VERY REAL and are set from Virginia across the country to California in various types of environments, the largest part of the third book is set from Corinth to Ft. Campbell and from the TN river to the MS river. The earthquake that ya'll describe is a major player.... GREAT READ if you haven't yet...you need to. Enemies Foreign and Domestic Web Site
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Anybody ever make any deals via texasguntrader.com?
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Caught this on the "Tactical Wire" e-mail list...we all need edifying in regard to safety... Fumbled Gun: Drop It! "A local serviceman was killed today after being shot during a training accident." That was the lead off by the talking head on the evening news. Based upon that statement you would assume that the person in question was negligently shot by another serviceman. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen. I watched the television report via the Internet and nowhere in the story were the hard facts about the situation reported. However, I am in possession of the facts of the case as the man who died was a member of the parent command of the unit I serve. The instructor cadre, of which I am a part, was briefed on the incident by the command's safety officer. What occurred on that fateful day follows. The serviceman was shooting a pistol qualifications course. During one of the stages shooters are required to shift the gun from their dominant shooting hand over to their non-dominant or support hand. This was where things went wrong. The man lost control of his pistol, how or why doesn't really matter. It's an imperfect world and stuff happens. Rather than letting the pistol fall to the ground he reached out to grab it. The M9 service pistol was in single-action trigger mode (safety off) as he had just fired two rounds. When the shooter grabbed the pistol it was inverted with the muzzle pointing back toward his chest. One of his thumbs found its way into the triggerguard and the weapon fired. A single full metal jacketed 9mm round passed through the center of his chest cutting a vital artery. He died on the range. The knee-jerk reaction from some of the safety officers was that this would not have happened if there had been more dry fire or holster training. That just doesn't wash. You don't practice the proper way to drop a pistol with dry fire. Two main factors caused this tragedy to occur. First and foremost is human nature. You've been catching objects since you were in kindergarten or earlier. If something starts to accidentally fall, you reach out and grab it. Everyone does this. We're pre-wired to do it. The second factor is that, although there was a lengthy briefing prior to commencing live fire, nowhere in the safety brief did the Range Safety Officer ever discuss what to do if you last control or fumbled with your pistol. Couple that with the fact that military personnel are generally ridiculed and often punished for dropping a weapon and you have a recipe for disaster. Whether you are an individual shooter, trainer, or range safety officer you must understand and address the dropped/fumbled gun possibility. The issue isn't such a big deal with long guns but when dealing with handguns it is definitely a situation that must be spoken to. It is really as simple as this, if you fumble your gun, let it go. All modern firearms have passive safeties to prevent 'drop firing'. If your pistol is too pretty or too fragile to be dropped you shouldn't have it our on the range. Bottom line, we don't catch fumbled pistols. Drop it! Paul Markel is a former United States Marine and Peace Officer. He has been writing professionally for more than fifteen years and is currently a full-time Small Arms and Tactics Instructor for the U.S. Military.
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Caught this over at GT: Still think that the lowest common denominator doesn't drag down society? Look at their ratings: http://www.apartmentreviews.net/rati...Apartments.htm ALBANY, Ore. - At the Oaks Apartments in Albany, the management can fly their own flag advertising one and two bedroom apartments - but residents have been told they can't fly any flags at all. Jim Clausen flies the American flag from the back of his motorcycle. He has a son in the military heading back to Iraq, and the flag - he said - is his way of showing support. "This flag stands for all those people," said Clausen, an Oaks Apartment resident. "It stands for the people that can no longer stand - who died in wars. That's why I fly this flag." But to Oaks Apartment management, Clausen said, the American flag symbolizes problems. He was told to remove the red, white and blue from both of his rides, or face eviction. "It floored me," he said. "I can't believe she was saying what she was saying." Even long-time residents like Sharron White, who has flown a flag on her car for eight years, has been told to take it down. White said management told her that "someone might get offended." "I just said to her 'They'll just have to get over it,'" White said. Resident we talked to who had been approached to take down their flags all told us the same thing: that management told them the flags could be offensive because they live in a diverse community. Attempts to find out for ourselves why management would ban flags were unsuccessful. KATU wanted to talk to management at Oaks Apartments, but no one has returned our calls. The woman we were told had made the decision said she was "not going to answer any questions." The mother of one soldier fighting in Iraq put up a poster in her son's apartment window when she learned of the ban. Her son's roommate said he'll risk eviction to make sure it stays. Another Oaks Apartment resident, Judith Sherer, doesn't have a car. Instead she carries an American flag around the complex to protest the ban, and wonders if the flag pin she wears is next to be "singled out." "If I put it on and I walk outside, what's going to happen?" Sherer muses. "Am I going to be confronted by a manager about this?" We're told the ban includes sports flags and even flag stickers on cars.
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In that price range, you're pretty much narrowed down to the Mossberg Silver Reserve or something close to that. It is O/U. Beware of older models as I understand that they have parts breakage issues (firing pins) and are difficult to obtain service on locally. You definitely need a 12 ga. Stay away from side by sides. If you are just getting into the sports I'd suggest a Remington 1100. Doesn't have to be anything special but will shoot a lot easier on your shoulder than the O/U, especially if you're a beginner. It'll be easier to find a used 1100 in that price range than much of anything else. Later you can graduate to a 1100 Trap or Sporting as your tastes are refined...you can get into one of those for around $1K. Nose around Gunbroker and or trapshooters.com. There's a shooting range in Chatt but for the life of me I cannot recall its name...get on over there and get into the crowd somebody's always selling shotguns moving to something else...maybe they have something older / better that you could get into cheaper than off the shelf. Hope the info helps.
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I'd have to cut out that section...frame it...and put it on the wall of my shop as a reminder...everybody makes mistakes. Luckily everybody (except the comforter) lived through this one. Thanks for posting...we all need reminders.
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Were there any cameras there? Anyone filming? Audio recording? Transcripts available? Anybody know?
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.270 or .308 if you're ok with a little more recoil.