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"And Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas) proposed H.R. 65, which would raise the eligibility age to carry a handgun from 18 to 21." Isn't this already the law? I assumed if you had to be 21 to buy a hand gun you had to be 21 to posess hand gun.

"Have any of you been asked to conceal your weapon in businesses that are not posted?"   No, but then again I think open carry creates many more problems than it's worth.  Open carry makes some people uneasy which leads to complaints which leads to a gun busters sign.  The last thing I want is extra attention or to become the first target in a surprise robbery.

Publishing these lists can be extremely dangerous for some people.  Some of these people have permits because they are hiding from someone dangerous like an ex-husband.  

"It would get shot down in the Supreme Court, but by the time it gets there, all the guns would be destroyed, or the owners felons"   Sounds like a business plan. Rent space in a high security facility in a neighboring fun friendly state where you can lease a gun safe to store your guns until the supreme court shoots this down.

I keep wondering what in the hell is she doing for Kalifornia that keeps getting her elected?  

I guess I must be paranoid or OCD or both.  When I am public I must look like a 1st base coach because I keep checking for my phone, keys, wallet, and gun constantly...  I bet the guy didn't have a holster and had it in his pocket and lost the gun at some time during the movie.   

"Doesn't sportsmans warehouse have a reloading class every once in a while?"   Yea,  I think it's once a month or maybe once every 6 weeks?  They usually have a sign at the front with a schedule of their classes.

I think she is going to have a tougher time this time around and that's why the bill looks like it does now.  She knows that they are going to have to make a bunch of concessions if have any hope in hell of getting this through so go for broke and then hope you get something close.  I think in the end that IF anything happens it's going to be pretty close to the original AWB except there probably won't be a sunset.     The thing that we have going for us is the internet and social media.  Maybe I've looked in the wrong places but I don't see the support for the Anti-Gun side like I've seen the support for the Pro-Gun side online.  Hopefully this is a good sign.

"So if a thief steals my gun and commits a crime you want to put me in jail?" - DaveTN   In a nutshell, yes.  Maybe you don't value your guns like I do but I try my best to keep them from being stolen.  I know that my safe and other measures does not make them 100% theft proof but I do think I've done everything possible to prevent their theft.   Following such a simple rule would have the mess we are in now.   

Using Chicago as an example is a flawed example that gives the gun grabbers more talking points.   Their argument is that these crimes happen because guns out side of the state are easy to obtain and bring back into the state.  Therefore you should expand the coverage of their gun laws to the surrounding states so they have to go further to get guns.

"Per Troy, Dicks was selling them undercost." - vontar   They didn't say anything about selling under cost.  They were selling the guns at a very log margin with plans on making that margin up by high volume sales.   So they may only have to make $20 off each gun with Dicks where they would have to make $120 through other channels at lower volumes. 

This whole thing should be a States Rights Issue and not a Federal Issue.  Sorry to those living in the Communistic States like CA an NY but if these bans take place they should take place on a State by State basis and not at the Federal level.  Living in Tennessee I feel that I really do not have a voice in this because there isn't much I can do to vote these Nazi's out of office.

"The "sheeple" of the United States of Amerika voted in the incumbent that promises entitlements paid for by working people like me"   Aww come on. Why wouldn't you want to vote for Santa Claus?

 The only thing I think should change is the enforcement of responsible gun ownership.  If you are a dumb ass and you leave a loaded Glock in the night stand and a kid gets a hold of it and an "accident" happens the person responsible for that gun should be punished heavily.   If you leave your guns laying around and you don't make a reasonable effort to prevent their theft then you should have some responsibility to the crime committed with that gun.     If you sell a gun to a bad guy then you should be part of the crime. There needs a way for you to cheaply ($5-10) make sure the guy you are selling that gun to is legit.  This would clear the seller from any responsibility but make it optional.  That way if you buy/sell/trade with people you know you don't have to fool with it.   Restricting gun ownership, magazine ownership, or ammo won't fix anything.  The only thing that can fix this is responsibility.

Just voted ... 1.99% of the voters are morons while 98.01% think like the rest of us.   

I have a relative that went through some bad times (very deep depression) after the loss of a spouse.  After some work we were able to get some help with a local mental health facility.  Before taking her back home there were several things we were told to do.  One of the things we were told was to remove all firearms form the home.   At the time we were told this we had all ready done this because I was concerned that something would happen that would lead to confiscation.

    I was there Friday they had at least 2 - 3 cans of just about everything they stock as well as a few boxes of various primers.  When I went by Saturday it looked like they had half as much powder and no primers except for a couple of shot shell trays.  I guess everyone who gets paid on Friday went there Friday evening and wiped them out.

    No.  It's trespassing when they ask you to leave and you don't.

"I see the gunshow loophole going away"   This one does not upset me personally because I don't buy and sell guns to and from strangers.  I don't want the heat from the BATFE because I bought a stolen gun or sold one to someone who shouldn't have it.  When they talk about the loop hole are they talking about one guy passes another guy and they buy/trade guns or are they talking about the guy who sets up a table with 20 guns on it and they treat it like a private party sale?

So if it comes down to it and the choice is No more scary black guns or move them to an NFA status you are going with no more scary black guns?  I want neither but given a choice I'll take the latter instead of giving them up.

CYA as in the state covering their asses.  If some moron shoots their foot while trying to pull their gun out they can at least say "Well we tried to teach you a little bit about gun safety, moron."   Plus it makes it harder for the permit holder to claim that they were not aware of the carry laws. 

I don't like the idea of an AWB but I guess that I would prefer that scary black guns become an NFA item before they are completely banned.  I think the only problem with this is that it would overwhelm the BATFE and clog up all NFA items and we know they would not add additional staff.

The President can't enact a a complete ban on guns by signing any treaties.  The right to bear arms is guaranteed in the Constitution and the 1957 case, Reid v. Covert, the Supreme Court established that the Constitution supersedes international treaties.   The treaty is supposed to clamp down on International trade of arms.

    I took my class last spring in a class of 10-12 people.  Out of the 10-12 people in my class 5 had to rent a gun because they did not own one.  Of the 5 that did not own a gun 2 had shot less than 100 rounds in their life time and 1 had NEVER shot a gun before in their life.   The class seems to be a CYA to cover those people who really do not have any business carrying a firearm from a safety stand point.