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Now I lay me down to sleep: Maverick 88, 12 gauge, High Viz bead, Limb Eaze pad, #4 buckshot.

Giada is the main reason I watch Food Network! She is so cute it hurts! Yup, I like revolvers below is the start of my collection. Ruger Bearcat is shown in its ancestoral element. (Every redblooded American boy should own a Bearcat!

Smith and Wesson Model 19 with 4" barrel, Pachmayr grips. Best balanced and best pointing handgun I ever owned. Unfortuately I have to say had, because I sold it years ago. After that the S&W Model 10 (M&P).

Best known as the "feets don't fail me now" option! If you already know it is a no gun zone and you enter unarmed you have indicated that you accept the consequences. If you can't accept the consequences, don't enter! I make that decision from time to time (depends on how good the food is or who I am with at the time) but I do it knowing that I am setting myself up for the risk. I have also learned with age that I cannot have my own way all of the time.This is the big trap of individual rights: they invariably conflict with somebody else's rights. As a school teacher (retired now) I had to surrender almost every right I had to defend and uphold the students' rights. It went with the territory. As a Marine for 30 years, I did give up just about every right I had to protect other people's rights. We do have to live together, discretion is not cowardice, it is just being careful. I CC all of the time and I obey the law if it tells me that I have to go somewhere unarmed. I don't like it but I follow the law. I have to weigh every day whether having a gun on me at that moment is more important than getting something done. Mailing a package to my grandchildren is usually going to be more important to me than whether or not the 642 is in my pocket at that moment! I don't expect the Post Office to have a squad of Marines there to guard me while I mail the package! Hey life's a bitch, sometimes you have to let the other kids play too, live with it.

I long ago decided that me and my J-Frames were going to get along a whole lot better if I used standard pressure .38 ammo in them! At the close ranges a snubby might be used at, I think it is more important to be able to get off multiple shots than one super-duper wooly mammoth killing Uber+++P or .357Mag flame belcher! I do not go around picking fights with Bloods or Cripps, I just worry about the Meth or Crack head that tries to knife me at the ATM.I am more worried about putting 5 COM than one shot knockdown power. If I see a whole bunch of scruffy looking young guys, I stay in the car and drive away. I shoot both Airweights (642 and 637) and Stainless (640 and 60) varying with the weather dictated clothing. With standard pressure .38 Special ammo I find all of them quite controllable. I usually put 50 rounds through whatever I am carrying at a weekly range session and I still have all of the nerve endings in my hands. And I am a little ole grandpa guy not Arnold Schwarzenegger! Good rubber grips help a whole lot. I pocket carry with deep pockets that hide the snubbie so I threw the bootgrips away and I use Uncle Mike extended (S&W Stock!) and Pachmayr Compacs grips.

One of the reasons that banks did away with armed guards was the court rulings that no business has a responsibility to protect its customers or employees from outside ( non-employee) armed attack. No business must protect you from outside attack. Think about it. The police do not have to protect you from attack (USSC Decisions) they have only to investigate after the attack and arrest culprits, if they find any. "Serve and Protect" is an empty motto. Given, cops die every day trying to do just that and every LEO I know considers it his duty to protect the public. But there is no legal requirement for them to do so. You cannot sue the police for not protecting you! ( That may be a surprise to many!)If you cannot hold the police responsible for your protection , how could you hold a business responsible? The only thing they can get in trouble with is something harming you because of their actions or negligence in following established ordnances. If a bad guy shoots you in an establishment, you cannot charge them because they let him in, you have to charge the BG. At least this is the Criminal Law. I am sure everybody is aware that Civil law lets you sue for anything you want. You may even win a lawsuit against the BG's third grade teacher because she didn't teach him better manners, if the jury is crazy enough to go along with it. (There is no rhyme or reason, nor boundaries, to civil law! You cannot possibly cover all of the bases for civil law, it depends on what the jurors were smoking or sniffing that morning. If I sound skeptical, I've served on three civil trial juries and they were zoos!)

Hey, these are saloon keepers. Not exactly at the top of the moral and socially conscious strata of society.

I can just hear my old grannie now "you can't get in trouble with it if you can just keep it in your pants!"

I wear Jeans and pocket carry a S&W 642. Two factors: (1) Forget trying to show off you "buns of iron" or whatever and wear the Relaxed Fit Cut. (Wranglers and Faded Glory both make them.) The legs are a lot more loose and the pockets are deeper. I wear the Carpenter Jeans but there are other styles. (2) Wear a loose light shirt over the top. (polo shirts, T-shirts and square cut cottonshirts do nicely.) I live in rural area (Macon County) and this is the normal style of dress anyways.

Better than Yard Bird. Running around with a couple of "Acajuns" during a formative time in my life I picked up a real fondness for Gator and Frogs' Legs. And they both have their own distinctive taste. And I likes em!

I don't know man, I've got some fond memories of the Gator Picante' I used to get in Baton Rouge!

Took a good buddy of mine to lunch at the Outpost Armory Tuesday. Not only is a total gun environment, it has darn good food. They are the only place in this area that I have been able to find that has Gator on the menu and it was fried up just right! Prices for the food are real reasonable too. Take the wife (or the girl you told everybody was your wife!) out to lunch there. I want to see this place stay in business!

Just another reason for this ridge boy to drive up to Bowling Green to trade instead of going down to Nashville.

I am happy they passed the law, but I don't really see it affecting me much. If the SHTF it will probably be quick, within 25 feet and no time to get to the car or open a door or trunk if I am at the car. The days of showing off your neat pump shotgun in a window rack are gone. Unless you have an overwhelming desire to arm the gangbangers. Five fast rounds at ten to fifteen feet is pretty much going to be my area of operations and that is pocket gun shooting not ARs or SGs. It will be nice to able to carry my 10/22 out to my fishing camp in my car without any kind of hassle though!

Retired USMC (30 years) went into public school teaching for 18 years and then retired from that. Now I just teach the grandkids how to shoot and work on my guns when I'm not shooting them.

Rayburn is, without a doubt a Liberal and political. I doubt that for the rest of them it a political issue as much as they don't want to tell us to stay out and lose our money. They're betting that gun owners will follow the law and still come in and party. And enough probably will to make this a profitable stand. It isn't a political stance for most, it is simply a money thing!

They have to be posted. The Doctor that I helped had already checked this and that was why he wanted guidance in posting properly.

I don't think they are going to get anywhere. Law was well written and allowed them the option to post and keep us out by law.

The other side of the coin would be that it would that much easier to post as the restaurant is removed of any responsibility for security.

I am afraid that somebody's lawyer will have to find out in civil court. They'll win, but there will be a big attorney fee attached! I am for everybody being able to exercise their rights. I just want them to do it legally! I didn't just throw a gun in my pocket. I took the classes and went through the licensing program to be able to carry. The posters can take the time to read the law and then post correctly. They need to take responsibility for their decision and live with the possibility of consequences (if any actually do occur.) If they don't want my business, then post. Don't blame the government for it! On the other hand I can understand the logic (I may not agree with it wholeheartedly) that certain types of establishments and institutions may feel that the need for public safety requires them to post and I may still go there. That is my choice and the law allows us both a choice.

I laminated two of the signs and a copy of the TCA paragraph for the Doc to keep in his office. You can also buy card stock dirt cheap in Walmart and make very professional signs. I hate the darn things but if they are going to do it, do it right and legal. To me the current law is fair. It allows me to carry and allows the proprietor the right of property.The main thing is, if they are going to post let us know right up front legally and we can all avoid embarassment. It also let's me know that I may want to go somewhere else. Not one of the signs I have seen on TV have been in the right format.

The sign below isn't the only possible rendition, but this one does include all of the parts and text listed in the TCA. I generated this sign for my MD ( He is not anti gun but does deal with patients that don't need to be near a gun!) He wanted to be legal and proper in how he went about it, so I made this one on the computer for him. I get peeved when owners who want to post say they can't "afford " the right signs. This was done on a home PC in about 5 minutes!

Thanks, just did. I am still getting used to all of the goodies on the site! This is one neat place!

Is the Outpost Gun shop and restaurant in Murfreesboro posted? I am going down there tommorrow for lunch and a check on ammo and I wanted to know before I started out.