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I have a Mossberg ATR 100 in 30-06 with a Leupold 3-9X scope on it. It has been my main "out West" deer rifle for several years now. It isn't a bench rest rifle but is light, rugged and plenty accurate for deer. I am very happy with mine.

I believe that the law should have been specific and inclusive. there should only be one wording that is acceptable. When it reaches the point of law, it should be the definitive directive without ambiguities.

Winchester 190 that my sister-in-law gave me when her husband passed. It is a great shooter and has taken its share of the great Tennessee man eating tree rat.

Good business sense. As some of the other restaurants lose our business these signs will pull us in. I really believe that , on the average, folks who like guns also like good food and lots of it. We also make up a big market share of the "eating out" crowd. Sign could be a real money maker!

I have noticed previous discussion about pocket carry "weighing down" trousers and jeans. Shown below is the solution I have come up with. My seamstress sews in an "extra pocket" on all of my trousers and jeans. It actually is an outside sheath of heavier material sewed over the bottom of the pocket for reinforcement. The stitching itself is very heavy and anchored at the corners. The pocket now has a double layer of cloth and is reinforced with heavier stitching. I wear Perry suspenders and a heavy belt, thus avoiding sag. The extra layer also serves to cover up the outline of the J-Frame and pocket holster.

"... All forms of martial arts originating in Asia do, I believe..." I think he was just stating that those martial arts originating in Asia do specifically apply, not that they are the only martial arts, or even the only ones that apply today. Many cultures have developed martial arts forms, but I have studied Asian forms more, so I can speak for them. I would be fascinated to hear of any other forms that apply and some references to study. There could be new slants and new techniques worth learning here. Feel free to expand the thread and enrich the discussion.

I agree on all points except first. the major Auto manufacturers were not paying taxes or little at best. They had many, many tax breaks. The unions were a source of unreasonable wages, I agree, but there was still a lot of big corporate profit driven greed involved. The rest of your post is correct. You are dead on that all industry is going to have to learn how to compete in a global market.. American Industry will identify the markets and will produce the product that sells. It is who we are, it is what we do. The main point of this thread was that Detroit, meaning the Michigan based auto industry was dying. That is still true. American manufacturing, including auto manufacuring, will now shift more into other states and communities with newer and different products.

Welcome to the state of the free!

Link to Musashi's Five Rings online: A Book of Five Rings Musashi hung up his sword after he fought what he felt was the best swordman he could ever face. He became a philosopher, a poet and an artist. He embodied all that was best in the samurai way (Bushido) and was probably the ultimate warrior-monk. He sounds bigger than life, the stuff of legends, but he was real!

Detroit is dying because of greed and stupidity. American manufacturers sent jobs and wages overseas and then expected local people to still have money to buy their products. Two major auto anufacturers went for stock dividends and CEO bonuses instead of for the auto market. (Ford is making money!) Unions were convinced that all laborers should have two houses and their kids should drive sports cars by the time they were 16. (And they priced their wages to match) This was while the rest of the country, their market, was making less than 1/2 of their pay. They made gas guzzlers that were way overpriced and too expensive to operate and maintain while their competitors made economical cars. (Gas prices didn't go up, they caught up. When the numerous subsidies and artificial market restrictions were dropped, gas prices sought their natural level.) Neither political party doomed Detroit. Detroit shot themselves in the foot, several times over!

"That would be the only way to change things. I was going to say he'd need at least enough for moving expenses, but with military at your back, why worry? The protection of a fortress/military base should be unequalled. " That protection would be in an unarmed state. It is illegal for any military personnel to carry a personal weapon on a military base anywhere in the world. The soldier indicated he knew this when he mentioned he was going to "drop off" his gun at a friends house before returning to base. It is true he had the right to carry off base, but he would get very little sympathy or support from the military for carrying a gun on "liberty." I don't agree with this fact but it is the way the military thinks. I spent 30 years on active duty in the USMC and went through hell just to transport a target weapon to the range on base to shoot representing the USMC! The weapon had to be returned to the armory by a direct route from the range to armory in as short a time as possible. It had to be locked in a case and unloaded. No ammo could be present in the same area as the gun. I had to have a written clearance from my Commanding Officer to pickup and transport the weapon. The U.S. Military has the most stringent Gun Control Measures in the U.S. This one of the reasons I tried to live off-base whenever possible. The title implies that a civilian agency was mistreating a soldier and they were but he would have been handled a lot rougher by the military. If you haven't figured it out yet, being a Military man doesn't mean your rights should be respected more, it means you pretty much don't have any rights. Or I should say, you have what rights your command says you have! I lived that way for thirty years, by my own choice. It just goes with the uniform.

I live in Tennessee and my grandchildren are in St. Louis. It would take me a day out of my way to avoid Illinois. I downloaded the ISP .pdf folder and laminated it. It rests in my glove compartment. The gun gets unloaded at the border and placed into a COM safe in the trunk (locked in safe/locked in trunk) On arriving at my son's house in MO, I resume carry. Do same thing coming back, resuming carry at KY border. If there are any questions by Illinois LEOs, I would present ISP pamphlet and explain that I have endeavored to comply with law. This doesn't work within ten miles in any direction of Chicago city limits. As stated earlier in posts , avoid Chicago like the plague!

The forum has posted that there is a specific law, pertaining to snakes. I just can't find it. I am pretty sure it exists, but I need a reference.

TGO David answered for me. We, from time to time, get one in the garage or under the deck. Grandkids and pets to consider. Nowhere around close to catch and release to. I didn't really post for a "license to kill" but just as an interest in some discussions elsewhere on forum. I like to know what the law actually says. Too many "It's the law" remarks around that I find are not the law!

What law (T.C.A. by title and paragraph) covers the killing of snakes? I have Googled and Yahood all over the place and I can't find it. I know there is a provision for killing venomous snakes on your own property but I need a copy of the actual law.

I have relayed your message to the wife!

"The Art of War" was required reading by the samurai and Daimyo (Barons) in the days of Bushido. They have the right idea in the Orient: the mind is the weapon, the sword (gun) is just a tool of the mind. Get your mind right and you will be hitting your target.

I didn't know exactly where to post this, so I selected here. I had posted something a little earlier about bushido(Samurai philosophy) and self defense. A younger poster told me in no uncertain terms that I belonged in the Dark Ages as none of that medieval stuff was of any use anymore. I have been to Gunsite and many years of other military and police type training environments. I have learned many techniques, each one contradicting and "dissing' the other. Each one claims to have the answer to self defense. Each one, however, was tied to one type of combat, with a paucity of scenarios. I find as I get older that the training I received in Japan in Kendo, Japanese sword fighting, has served me in better staid than anything else. Replace the sword with a gun and the principles still apply. Below is an my summation of the Book of Five Rings, written by Miyamoto Musashi in 1645 AD. A great warrior and survivor of many sword duels, he tried to distill a philosophy of fighting that would fit any weapon in any scenario. He believed that although technique is vitally important, it is the spirit of the attack or mindset as we would call it today, that is the key ingredient to winning a fight. He stated that the method of fighting was nothing compared to the earnest goal of cutting your opponent down. I am not stating that this is the answer, but I would welcome others thoughts on his writing and how it applies to self defense today. The Five Rings Earth- Know the way. Know your environment, including the code of conduct expected and the rules and laws involved. Be aware of everything around you. Water- Be proficient and skilled with your weapons. Know more than one weapon. Wind -Know how the enemy fights. Know your opponent, his ways, thoughts, skills and style of fighting. Fire -Take the fight to your enemy without fear. Once you have decided to fight, take the fight to the opponent with no reservations or hesitation. Seize control of the situation. Void -The point where you can forget the four above because they have become a part of you. You no longer need to think about them. Miyamoto Musashi 1645 AD

All of this is main reason I switched from Colt Commander to S&W revolver. Drill is simple, squeeze trigger again. Before somebody goes into a tirade about revolvers jamming: You have as good if not better chance that something is going to hang up during your Tap,Rack, Bang drill. Don't tell me it doesn't happen, I fired on pistol teams with the USMC for 20+ years and seen it happen. No gun is perfect but the odds are with me that with my revolver I am going to get another shot before BG knocks me down. I second the advice above about checking your ammo. I run a pretty complete quality assurance check on all of my carry ammo. (Weigh, measure and visually inspect.)

I have not done a whole lot of elephant hunting here lately and I haven't taken down a major gang of BGs in a gunfight in simply months! So, my real utliliztion of my guns lately has been to dispatch unwanted critters from my yard and garage. Mostly little slithery critters. We have snakes here and it seems they are all Copperheads. Some of the smaller ones have occasionally slipped into the garage, even though we keep it closed. I keep the garage heated so I think they are headed for the warmth. I have developed a battery of working guns to take care of this yeoman's work. The top one is a NEF pardner youth model in .410 bore. The bottom one is a Crickett that my grandkids outgrew. I mounted a Center Point Laser on it. The shotgun, loaded with 7 1/2 shot, is for outdoors in the yard and the Crickett , loaded with rat shot is for inside the garage. I have sighted in the .22 at 12 feet and get a pretty effective pattern. They are not awesome by any means, but they get fired more for real (at a living target) than any other gun I own. I wouldn't use the .22 rat shot on any of the bigger snakes, but they haven't been getting into the garage so they are .410 bait anyways.

As stated earlier, an individual trying to fight Federal vs State law in a Federal court is going down. The Federal court will not allow state law as mitigation and individual will be guilty. The individual who tries this must develop a liking for prison life in a federal prision. Any appeal on this one, if at all possible, would probably be years down the pike. This is a fight in the courts for states not individuals.

I personally believe that bars have no reason to have parking lots. if I lose my HCP because I have a drink while carrying, then a vehicle operator should lose his DL for having a drink and getting back behind the wheel. Designated driver is pure BS. I have been around a day or two (66 YO) and I watch my fellow man closely. They all come in, they all drink, and it usually one of the most drunk of the lot who gets in on the driver's side. And yes I do drink, at parties not bars, but momma is a teetotaler and she drives. Truth is, there are a lot more drunks out there than there are CCWs and they spend a whole lot of money in those bars. It's economics , plain and simple.

My philosophy: Use 12 gauge slug or .308/.243 for deer. (9MM is for humans!) Of course that could depend on the size of deer in your area. Here in the ridge country of Tennessee they get big enough that even the .243 may not work if it isn't a solid hit, I just don't think 9MM would get it as an effective round.

I never realized that! Mine had a 6" barrel and was very accurate. it was rugged beyond belief. I carried it in all kinds of Northern Ohio weather. I kept it clean and well oiled and never had a problem with it. My cousin inherited the gun when I left for service (it actually belonged to my grandfather) and his grandson is carrying it now! H&Rs weren't fancy guns but they were really fine working guns.

How do you suppose Obama and Pelosi forced him to do this? We need some in depth research here. After all The Gov is a Republican and we all know that they wouldn't do anything that wasn't Constitutional. Let's connect this to the national Democrats.