Luke E.

23-25 of Aug. or Sept. ?

   I'm not sure I know about the "laser thing". I've also got another property in mind that would be a bit flatter than my place so i'll check with him and see what he thinks. I shoot out there quite a bit and I don't see much problem with it as long as he can join in.

I'm still good to try hosting a few folks that would like to practice either way.

   Is there a website or some way to get more info?

I'm in Murfreesboro so any land I could provide would be in Rutherford county.

Guess that got blurred out sh1thead was the name.

   Buy the way, my grandmother is a retired school teacher and I remember when I was in the 4th grade her coming home on the 1st day of school that year talking about her new student "Shithead" of course the parents were cute and pronounced it "Shahaawd" but the kid still wrote Shithead. She said it caused him trouble even in the early years.

That is exactly where I was originally headed. When my wife brought it up tonight that is where she landed on the issue as well. Our only issue was, how long would it take some POS liberal judge to say naming my child a Biblical name such as "Matthew" is unacceptable and re-name him? I know that seems far fetched but think of all the stuff we said that about 10 years ago that is happening right now. I'm in the same ship as you on this but I do have my worries about going somewhere that we can't get back from.

   I'd be up for a little learning and might could supply the property for a small group if we had someone that was knowledgeable and willing to join in and pass on some of it. 

Now I see where OP said "last year" my bad. I'm not sure "Messiah" would be as problematic for a child as Satan would.

  I guess I thought it was the other way around... I thought they were trying to name the child Satan based on the original post.. 

  These were countries covered in the article I mentioned. I guess that's what happens when you give an inch..

 I'm not saying right or wrong here but I read a rather extensive article 3-4yrs ago about this very topic. It surprised me but this isn't that uncommon, it happens here in the states from time to time but is very common in many other civilized nations. The way I understood the article was that they are able to get away with it because they twist it to be attempted abuse and i'm not completely upset about it. In a way they are sentencing the child to a childhood of emotional pain and ridicule and in most cases it is only the "parents" cry for attention. I'm against it I guess because at some point some lawyer or judge will use this out of context and I suppose it could eventually be used against a "christian" name just the same. Bottom line is, the judge crossed a line that none of us want crossed for the sake of a child that none of us want hurt. I guess nothing trumps live and let live to me.

   I will definitely keep that offer in mind!

   They usually aren't even real close and i've had them be 700fps slower out of a barrel that was almost an exact match of the one the data stated was used. Haven't figured that out yet.

   I have never spoken to any of them about knife carry.     I'm sure there are plenty out there that are on the other side of the situation and I was only attesting to the ones I have personally spoken with. I just know that there are many many more rural counties out there than otherwise which likely translates over.. Maybe not but makes sense to me. But believe me when I say I do take them on a case by case basis and i'd even go so far as to say that they have to prove their selves to me. I've had some shady interactions with law enforcement and that enough to make me skeptical.

   I guess I never thought about a common twist rate such as 1:7 being capable of that without pushing a bullet outside normal speeds. Would you be talking about a 55gr fmj? or does the length/weight of the bullet change the speed that it fails at?   6,000fps second is humming along. I put a load together that according to the Hornady is good for 3,800 fps and thought I was doing things. I hope to push it to 4,000 but didn't have a chrony and my scale was acting a bit sketchy so I didn't feel comfortable getting that close to max.    Edit: sorry, I forgot to mention that is a .243 not a .223. Bullet weight is similar so i'm just trying to figure some of this out because i'm sure that most will translate over.

10,00fps! how does a projectile hold up to that?

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 Every sheriffs deputy and almost every policeman that I am friends with or have spoken with completely support armed citizenry and have a do what you need to do mentality. I wish more would band together and make it public that they feel this way. I don't mean making a meager little statement but rather climb up on a hilltop and explain to people that they are there own first line of defense and the LEO's will get there as soon as they can but a lot of times they only make it in time to take care of an attack or murder scene. I feel like most all Sheriffs Departments around the country are dominated by like minded men and women and if they were very very public about it, it would make the facts very hard for anyone (including a POS president and members of his merry band of outlaws) to hide and lie about.   and yes Wheelgunner, I completely agree that they are Constitutionally PROTECTED rights not Constitutionally or government given rights to be changed at any particular Congress or president's whim.

Exactly what Triple said. Long guns you can buy and take home with you that day.

I guess it all completely depends on their motives huh?

   I'm definitely not for getting in the way of any peaceful religion holding any kind of peaceful rally, meeting, ceremony etc....I'm for the constitution when It directly benefits me as well as when it might seemingly go against what I would like to happen at that moment. I should have specified before hand that I did not buy into any of the conspiracy theory part of it. What I was asking thoughts on was the fact the said religion of peace that took out the twin towers and the pentagon on 9/11  and took out our embassy last year on 9/11 is the same "religion of peace" that now wants to hold a rally  (if there is any truth to the rally at all) in our countries capitol on 9/11... I'm not saying that they shouldn't be allowed to do it on that day but to choose 9/11 over one of the other 364 days of the year seems to me to be a slap in the face boarding on spit in the face. I consider the rest of the article to be hogwash until I see evidence to the contrary.

I guess i'm missing the point.. kids don't read Spanish?

Yep and selling it to you and knowing that is the only reason to purchase it.. No one is going to go buy a gun or exploding target just to carry it to the house and stick it on a shelf to forget about... I mean there are absolutely zero other uses for it.. If you buy fertilizer that's marketed towards a gardener then turn around and make a bomb with it then shame on you but it you buy the fertilizer down the street and go fertilize your yard with it only to find out that its legal to sell but you can't mix water with it... uh oh it just rained and your in jail... I know that was a little far fetched but it's the same reasoning.. If you can't use a product for it's intended purpose without going to prison for it then it should not be allowed to be sold there .. That's common sense but there again they are in California.. Like I said before it is very sad to see someone's future potentially ruined because of bureaucratic BS