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We have had a security team for 10 or 12 years. We average 8 per service 4 teams so only serving once a month. The local DA recommended we hire a uniformed cop to protect everyone from lawsuits. I think the county charges 30 bucks a hour for a uniformed cop. Be careful about liability. The local DA should be able to give good advice on protecting yourself and your church. I have my TN armed guard so that helps with some protection, but having a cop there helps a lot. We do a LE appreciation day and invite all the LE and serve them dinner and proved gifts.

I have been using them for years. The Car Audio places around here do not carry them because they tend to not last that long and the do not like warranting them. I have them in 3 cars. I just look at reviews online. I have a guy that installs them for me for 40 bucks. I always get the front and back cameras and have them wired to turn off and on when we start the car.

Thanks. been looking at a big window Holosun

I am trying to figure out the best sight option for this Mossberg 930. What would you put on this shotgun if it was yours. Shooting 17 pellet buckshot with it.

One can open carry a semi auto bazooka for all I care. What I will not do is disparaged, make fun of or call people names that may choose to do something different than myself. Seems we have enough attacks from the outside already. I bet if we all watched each other close enough we would find things about what we do with firearms that we do not like. Live and let live. Or maybe carry any way you want to.

I read that article. I also looked at the stories he used as some of his reasoning. One that I noted was in Mexico where a CONCEALED carry guy had his firearm taken from him and used on him. So I guess the story is do not carry or pull your weapon for any reason because it could be taken and used on you. Another shows someone stealing a guys gun that was CONCEALED. So I guess it can happen both ways. Look just do not carry one at all and nobody will take it. Lol

Many on the left would say that about anyone that carried a firearm. Open or concealed. I can hear them now, Its unacceptable, stop being a cowboy that you think you need to carry a gun. Frankly it does not bother me either way.

Lots of good ole common sense here.

Sorry not heard of cops being ambushed because they were open carrying. I am in the private security business and have not heard of them as well. The comment was "I do not want to be the first person shot if things go south" my response is there is nothing I could find to show that happens. There are plenty of reasons not to open carry but that is not one of them. Targeting cops and gun theft is a different conversation. Both those have happened.

My PA is retired Delta Force guy. He open carries in Lowes. I would not suggest challenging him by assuming he is a easy target. Even with his hands full and a dog leash I would bet on him any day. So just because you think he may be a easy target I assure you he is not. To me what's more dangerous and irresponsible is carrying a firearm and not practicing weekly or even monthly, some not yearly maybe not ever. I have friends that have not shot their carry gun in years. I have family members that brag that their carry gun has never been shot.

I know when the TN law changed there were comments about we would see more open carrying and all the (problems) that come with that. Yet I noticed no change at all.

Did you watch the video? Not really buying they were after his gun. So I should believe that the guys in the truck that had a gun already, targeted him by running him down with the truck and according to him he threw the gun away yet they chased him, shot at him to get his gun. He told someone that he thought they were after his gun. Umm you sure your buying that? I guess if thats all you can find sort of proves my point. lol

I have done both. Very few people even noticed either way. I was never treated any differently. Carrying in a posted place is a good reason to be concealed. I tend not to spend much time on other peoples motives. When I see someone open I am more interested in what he is carrying and if I need one than anything else. I am no more alarmed by it than seeing someone printing or wearing baggy clothing. I do private security and when I am hired to be armed it is to be a deterrent. Mostly looking after people with money. I explain to them I am not shooting someone over money and they understand that. They still want me armed as a deterrent the same way someone that is open carrying would be one. To each his own. I have friends that do not carry one in the chamber. In my book its nothing more than a paper weight and something I would never do. If your more comfortable conceal then cool if its open I am cool with that as well.

Sorry there is no data showing this to be true. You may think that but that does not make it true. I have looked and I have asked this very same question here in the past. I can not find and no one can provide an example of an open carrying person to be the first target when things so south. For a criminal getting in a gun fight is the last thing they want. (Unless they are just there to kill everyone anyway) If a bad guy sees someone armed they are much more likely to go find a softer target than to just shoot at the guy with a gun to get him out of the way. That's why most all self defense classes teach to make yourself a hard target. Ever wonder why gun shops are hardly ever robbed? Most conceal carriers are not that concealed anyway. I spot them all the time printing or otherwise showing they are armed to anyone paying attention. There are plenty of good reasons to conceal carry but this is not one of them.