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I just thought of something.. If one of the question would have been on guns.....the scales probably would have tipped towards McCain....maybe.

Plus here Last name is RICE......wouldn't that confuse the Asian voters???

Wow!!!! Here was my test results, and I promise this was the results of my first test. I Think I need more than 10 questions. Summary Agreed OnDisagreed On1. John McCain [details] 4 6 1. Barack Obama [details] 4 6

I will refer you to post #6. See Quote Below. "Why does anyone here need to provide that info, or convince you who the best man is?" Because I am the typical sheep, who hears the word "CHANGE" and I say to myself, "Self, I really don't like the current state of affairs, and CHANGE sure sounds good. And everyone who says they are voting for McCain say they really don't like him, but he is not as bad as Obama, so they are cast their ballots for him." I am confused now....I would like a CHANGE, but I also like Lesser Evil. hmmmmmmm Is this a good enough reason for you? Why the hostility? You you do not want to participate, then don't. My reasoning (yet again) is I don't believe the "majority" of people who say "McCain is the Lesser of two Evills, actually know what they are saying. A lot of People think "Obama is a Democrat, and Democrats are bad", and that is fine to believe in that, but they truly don't not know why they think that way. This is just a way to get mind stirring about the issues. This thread is not different than any onther one on this forum. If you don't like it, or you think it is stupid, then nobody is twisting your arm to make a post or read it.

Thats is what I am wanting to be explained. I am saying: Evil Scale Obama - 50% McCain - 50% All I am wanting is Facts to prove than McCain is the Lesser of two evils.

Me neither. It would seem to help in out in the Black and in the Female voting markets.

Thanks OhShoot. Well i guess it will be the Walmart pad afterall.

not that I want him to...but what about Condoleezza Rice

NBC/WSJ Poll: Obama keeps lead over McCain Voters see Democrat as riskier pick, but rival has negatives of his own By Mark Murray Deputy political director NBC News updated 1 hour, 21 minutes ago WASHINGTON - A majority of Americans think Barack Obama is a riskier choice for the presidency, but he maintains a six-point lead over Republican John McCain, according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll. With slightly more than 100 days until the election, the survey provides a glimpse of the challenges facing both presidential candidates. For McCain, it comes amid a toxic political climate for Republicans. Just three in 10 respondents approve of President Bush’s job. Only one in seven McCain voters say they’re excited to vote for him. And the percentage of Americans who believe the country is on the right track is at its lowest mark ever in the poll. For Obama, it’s that a majority think he’s a risky choice for the presidency; that less than half say the Illinois Democrat shares their background and values; and that there are concerns he’s too inexperienced. “When it comes to mood, the Republicans face very long odds,†says Democratic pollster Peter D. Hart, who conducted this survey with Republican pollster Neil Newhouse. “And when it comes to perceptions of Barack Obama, I think the Democrats and Barack Obama have a job to do.†After embarking on his highly publicized trip overseas, Obama enjoys a 47-41 percent advantage over McCain, which is unchanged from last month. The survey was conducted of 1,003 registered voters from Friday to Monday, July 18-21, during Obama's overseas trip. It has an overall margin of error of plus-minus 3.1 percentage points. But Obama’s lead over McCain expands to 13 points when third-party candidates Ralph Nader and Bob Barr are added into the mix — with Obama at 48 percent, McCain at 35 percent, Nader at 5 percent and Barr at 2 percent. However, it’s important to note that the pro-Obama vote (48 percent) and anti-Obama vote (adding up to 42 percent) is consistent with the result from the two-way match up. “This remains Barack Obama’s election to win,†Hart says. “In the end, the election is about reassuring voters and removing doubts.†Explaining Obama’s overseas trip That, in large part, explains why Obama is on his overseas tour taking him to Afghanistan, Iraq, Israel, Germany, France and England — and it hints at what he could gain from such a trip. While Obama enjoys significant advantages over McCain when it comes to likeability, projecting hope and optimism, being compassionate, and improving America’s standing the world, McCain easily bests Obama on who would be a better commander-in-chief, as well as on being knowledgeable and experienced enough to handle the presidency. What’s more, 55 percent believe that Obama would be the riskier choice for the presidency; just 35 percent say that of McCain. Indeed, 51 percent of respondents say they are focusing more on what kind of president Obama would be, compared with just 27 percent who say they’re focusing more on McCain. “This election is more about Barack Obama than it is about John McCain,†says Newhouse, the GOP pollster. But while the election might not be about McCain, he faces some clear disadvantages heading into this election — including what Newhouse calls the “enthusiasm gap.†McCain’s disadvantages According to the poll, 44 percent of Obama voters say they are excited about their candidate, but only 14 percent of McCain voters say that of the Arizona Republican. Forty-two percent say they're satisfied with him, and 43 percent say he’s the lesser of two evils. In addition, the Republican Party’s brand is in tatters. President Bush’s approval rating is at 30 percent, up two points from last month’s poll. Also, for the 25th consecutive survey, more view the Republican Party negatively (48 percent) than positively (31 percent). By comparison, the Democratic Party has a 43-37 percent positive-negative rating. Furthermore, just 13 percent in the poll believe that the country is headed in the right direction. That’s the lowest percentage on this question ever in the history of the NBC/Journal poll. In July 1992 — the year that challenger Bill Clinton beat incumbent President George H.W. Bush — 14 percent said the nation was on the right track. Perhaps more ominous for McCain, by 55-40 percent, voters say they prefer a presidential candidate who will bring greater changes — even if he’s less experienced and tested — to an experienced candidate who would bring fewer changes to existing policies. “McCain can’t make this election about experience. Re-running Hillary’s campaign isn’t going to be enough,†Newhouse says, referring to Sen. Hillary Clinton, whom Obama edged for his party’s nomination. The economy is issue No. 1 Also in the poll, the issue of the economy remains the public’s top concern, and it’s an issue that voters want both McCain and Obama to address with their vice-presidential picks. Respondents overwhelmingly think that McCain needs to find a running mate who’s an expert on the economy. For Obama, meanwhile, they want him to pick an expert in military or foreign affairs — but a close second is an expert on the economy. The poll also shows that voters don’t have much confidence in either Obama or McCain to get the country’s economy back on track. Twenty-eight percent say they have confidence in Obama, while 17 percent say that of McCain.

very funny!!!!!

http://gunowners.org/pres08/obama.htm Barack Obama's Gun-Related Votes The U.S. Senate Debated: Obama Voted: Supporting concealed carry for citizens10 Anti-gun Banning many common semi-automatic firearms11 Anti-gun Disallowing self-defense in towns where guns are banned12 Anti-gun Imposing one handgun a month restrictions13 Anti-gun Requiring lock up your safety trigger locks14 Anti-gun Protecting gun dealers from frivolous lawsuits15 Anti-gun Outlawing gun confiscations during a national emergency16 Pro-gun Squelching the free speech rights of gun owners17 Anti-gun Restricting the interstate sales of firearms18 Anti-gun Repealing the gun ban in Washington, DC19 Anti-gun

McCain Still Trying To Gag Gun Owners From Criticizing His Anti-gun Record Gun Owners of America 8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102 Springfield, VA 22151 (703)321-8585 Tuesday, February 28, 2006 A few weeks ago, we alerted you to legislation -- introduced by anti-gun Senator John McCain (R-AZ) -- which is aimed at squelching the First Amendment rights of grassroots groups like Gun Owners of America. That bill, S. 2128, is ostensibly aimed at dealing with some of the congressional controversies that have hit the media in recent weeks. A true reform bill would focus the spotlight on members like John McCain, who was one of the original Keating Five senators who were deeply implicated in the savings and loan scandal. Instead, McCain began his war on real transparency in 2002 when he teamed up with anti-gun Sen. Russ Feingold (D-WI) to push the Incumbent Protection Act into law -- an act that stifles the ability of organizations like GOA to criticize elected officials before an election. Now with the Gag Act (S. 2128), McCain wants to target his wrath on groups like GOA -- requiring them to register their "grassroots" communications and to file twice as many frivolous reports. If McCain succeeds in pushing an expansive interpretation of his bill (as he did when he convinced the courts to regulate the Internet under McCain-Feingold), then we could see a host of draconian restrictions affecting both GOA and you. For example, if we wanted to alert you to gun ban that is moving in our nation's capital, we could first have to tell McCain (and all his other buddies in Congress) about what we're planning to do, who we're planning to alert (that is, grassroots folks like yourself), how much money we plan to spend, etc. Because of Section 105 in this bill, everyone with whom GOA contracts to get the word out (advertisers, printers, etc.) could be required to tell Congress twenty days in advance about GOA's public information campaign. In effect, we would end up alerting Sarah Brady every time we plan to wage a grassroots campaign in opposition to gun control. This is ridiculous! No doubt, the Gag Act is further proof that grassroots lobbying works. It works so well, that John McCain wants to muzzle it. S. 2128 -- or a bill that is similar to it -- is now likely to come to the floor of the Senate in early March, according to Majority Leader Bill Frist. It is imperative that we contact our Senators today. Senators who have cosponsored this bill are: Conrad Burns (R-MT) Norm Coleman (R-MN) Jon Kyl (R-AZ) Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) Bill Nelson (D-FL) Olympia Snowe (R-ME)

Thanks Tcampbell, those are very good facts!!! here is some on McCain: John McCain sponsored an amendment to S. 1805 on March 2, 2004 that would outlaw the private sale of firearms at gun shows. John McCain also sponsored an Incumbent Protection provision to the so-called "Campaign Finance Reform" bill, which severely curtails the ability of outside groups (such as GOA or NRA) to communicate the actions of incumbent politicians to members and supporters prior to an election. The GOA report of the 106th Congress reveals that out of 15 votes relating to the right to keep and bear arms, Senator John McCain voted favorably only 4 times. Put that into a percentage and McCain's pro-Second Amendment voting record is a pathetic 27%. http://www.gunowners.org/mccaintb.htm http://www.gunowners.org/mcv109.htm http://www.gunowners.org/mcv108.htm http://www.gunowners.org/mcv107.htm http://www.gunowners.org/mcv106.htm

No sir that is not what I am looking for. Read the Original Post.

Finally A Fact: McCain political career started: When John Jacob Rhodes, the longtime congressman from Arizona's First Congressional district, announced his retirement, McCain ran for the seat in 1982 and won it. In 1986, upon Senator Barry Goldwater's retirement, McCain was elected to succeed him. http://www.spiritus-temporis.com/john-mccain/political-career.html Obama political Career started: The 46-year-old senator's rise to the presidential race has been fairly quick since he first took public office. Obama served in the Illinois Senate for eight years before being elected to the United States Senate in 2004. http://media.www.marquettetribune.org/media/storage/paper1130/news/2008/02/19/Election/Balance.Marks.Obamas.Political.Career-3213997.shtml

Brother Clown I saw that somewhere too.....but I am looking for facts. What I am afraid of is most people are saying "I hate Obama so much that I will vote for the other guy that actual has a chance to win." I want to know what facts are these choices made on, or are they just personal feelings? I am doubting many facts will arise. As you can see from the posts all ready made. As bad as everyone wants to admit it, there is no way after the last 8 years, that a Republican will win this election. We all need to get use to saying "President Obama".

C'mon guys. I want to see "proof" facts, voting records, that shows me that they are not the same. Could I tell the difference if I was given two sheets of paper, with no names on it, one with Obama's voting record and the other with McCain's voting record?????? They can say and act however they want just to get the votes of the people, but their voting records on issues speaks volumes. I just want to be convinced, and in doing this, it might help strengthen the McCain supporters, so they don't have to hold their noses when they vote for him, and it might change a person's mind who is planning on casting a vote for the third party, like myself. Any type of factual records are acceptable. (not just voting records)

Can anyone talk me into voting for "Bomb Bomb Iran" (McCain)???? ( I am currently saying that I will not be voting for either one) Everything I have seen (as far as voting records) he is running neck and neck with Barack Osama's record. Facts, no "I feel this way" or "I think this".....Facts, Records, etc......convince me please that McCain is better than Obama? I am not wanting to argue, just lay out the reasons why the majority of the members here are so dead set that McCain is better than Obama.

Clicking the thumbnail will bring all of this up.

I got mine yesterday in the Mail. This is the first time since I got my permit (2004) that I have every received junk mail because I was a Handgun Carry Permit Holder. I really don't like this! Who should get my complaint letter? Steve Cohen?

Very interesting article. Thanks for sharing

I am a "Baldwin&Castle" guy myself. http://www.baldwin08.com/ Maybe....I haven't fully decided on Baldwin, or doing a write in for Willie Herenton. I can see King Willie in the White House.

I am a Sirius Radio guy myself. I Love it. Most people...I mean sheeple have no clue about gun laws and carry permits. They watch shows like CSI and NYPD Blue and what not, that are based in Cities where there are strict gun laws...and they hear terms like "It is illegal to own a gun withing the city limits"...."Regular people aren't allowed to have these types of guns" and so on. There are a lot of people who believe anything that is on TV.

Cool. The "compared to what they could help overcome" was the part I was missing. Thanks