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Yes sir. In 1999 I walked out of church and my car was gone and there was broken glass in the parking lot. We got a phone call from a good samaritan about 3 weeks later and he said it has been aboned on a street he travels everyday to and from work for about 2 weeks so he stopped to have a look and notice the column busted and figured it had been stolen. He looked in my glove box, saw my registration and looked my name up in the phone book and gave me a call. It was about $2500 worth of damage and I had it up and running in 3 weeks. In September of 2002 (Labor day weekend) I was working on the house we were about to move in (the wife and I married Dec. of 2002), and when I walked in the front door, the back door was wide open. The fridge and frezer door was open (all the food was spoiled), there was some in the toilet and I had my compound bow, arrows, two TVs, two VCRs, a DVD player, some knives I had been collecting, a pellet rifle, and some more little odd and in stuff. I was at the house every weekend and most nights working on it, but this occurred during a 5 day stretch where I wasn't there. It bothered me and I stayed at the house every night from then on, and sat up with a shotgun next to me, just waiting for the bastard or bastards to return, (because there still were things of value that they didn't get). So yes I do understand, and I still don't think that I own any piece of property that is more valuable than a life, criminal or not. Now my wife, little girl, myself, friends and family....I would not think twice about ending a life to protect theirs.

Welcome fellow Memphrican.

Even if it was legal to shoot someone in the name of protecting one's propert, morally I don't think I could do it.

Man I don't know how you missed seeing them the first time. Maybe you were just too excited. That's a good reason.

My friend did not quote law. We spoke in a common sense manner.

Let me state this as plain as I can.....I am not nor will I ever hold someone for the police. That is not my job nor will it ever be. Low and ready is for me to be ready to defend myself, not hold anyone. I only mentioned it because that was the only instance the instructor spoke about that dealt with pulling a firearm and then talking. Again, I am not nor will I ever hold someone for the police. That is not my job nor will it ever be. I do not aim a firearm at someone to talk to them. I am not going to shoot a person over the protection of property. Again, I am not nor will I ever hold someone for the police. That is not my job nor will it ever be.

SWJewel I want to publicly apologize to you. I was wrong. I asked a very good freind of mine that is a MPD, and he said that if the mom was outside her home, then she is technically "in public" so asking for a HCP was in order. I was under the impression that while on your property you could carry your firearm, but he said that rural property and urban property are different, and while the law may not be written that way common sense explains the reasoning. Now in response to Titan, I don't not know how I would handled that situation. I have thought about it numerous times and have not came to a conclusion that I deem correct. All I am saying is there is nothing covered under the law (that I know of) that enables a person to hold someone at gunpoint. In my opinion my firearms are for hunting and self defense, not for holding someone at gun point. If this practice was indorsed yuen I think it would have been covered in the HCP class. My instructor taught us "low and ready" but not gun poin. This is just my opion and does not have to represents anyone else's.

oh, well in that case. Asking if the Mom if she had a HCP is as irrelevant to the situation as asking if she enjoys a good spanking. I am allowed to say that regardless of my "qualifications".

I am a father, a home owner,a owner of a vehicle, with a HCP and carry daily, which does qualify me to "dissect" what the mom did. I guess I missed the "Holding someone at gunpoint over property" section of my training.

Two days also.

That is what I was saying. I say that, and then think about what I would have done and her situation, and can't come up with anything better. She didn't want her stuff ripped off, and she didn't want to shoot the guy. I guess I would have to be put in that situation to find out what my reaction would be. I am saying that I believe holding someone at gun point is not something I subscribe to doing.

lol

California....what a silly country. People's Republic of Komiefornia

That is funny.....but not something a person should do. lol

Settle Down, this isn't a cop bashing thread. No one is talking bad about the boys in blue. It is simply a discussion about a situation. A situation that was handeled wrong. A person should not hold anyone at gun point....a gun should not be aimed at someone unless the trigger is about to be pulled. I do not know how I would have handeled this situation. I have often thought about it. Also a request for a HCP in this situation is un-necessary, but that request was made and I would have complied just as the lady did in the above story. Nothing bad here, just a discussion on things.

Playing devils advocate here.....The police are not there to investigate the mom.