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Well...I received the SOG last night.   Things I liked about it: Compound pliers, Included Sheath   Things I didn't like about it: Side covers that kept popping off Tools that not only open from the inside but also from inside the side covers The unavoidable fact that compound pliers means that you have to open the handles further to get the jaws open further. The bottle opener didn't seem anywhere near as well designed as my Swiss Pioneer.   I am returning it. I really like the Leatherman Super-Tool, but last night I had the pleasure of realizing what happens when you accidentally open all the tools on one side all the way. They all lock, which would normally be fine. But on the Leatherman Super-Tool, to unlock one of the tools you have to open another one of the tools to what would be 90° perpendicular to the handle. This relieves stress on the lock-bar. What do you do when all the tools are locked open and you cannot relieve stress on the lockbar?   I chunked it in the trash.   Just kidding, I had to take my Swiss Pioneer and pry the lockbar loose a little bit. I got them all closed. But prying with a flathead edge on the lockbar of a tool that has several sharp blades/edges locked opened seemed dangerous.   Where is all of this leading? I really, really like my Swiss Pioneer and may be picking up a Victorinox Swiss-tool someday but not anytime soon. I had several NIB from a bulk lot purchase 6 years ago or so but I sold them all. Wish I had kept one.   For now I think I'm sticking with the Gerber 600 that I have.

  Well good then! My gripe isn't with smart people who go to school to become smarter and do smart things, but rather the generation that says "Who am I really?" and goes to school for the experience, good times, and if they are lucky enough then a degree in something they thought sounded neat at the time.   The system tells them that is a worthwhile thing to do. They get out of school with $75,000 debt and they work at Chili's because they never really figured out who they were and their schooling isn't directly applicable to them or their situation.   Let me also add that a smart person going to a crazy expensive non-party school would have likely weighed the costs vs benefits and determined that it is worthwhile to them. Racking up several $100,000 for schooling when you are sure you will earn six figures or better within a few years, that's your choice and chance.

  I'm merely saying that the "go to school and live on campus and eat lots of food and have lots of fun and party and drink and maybe accidentally come out with a doctorate in flea breading with a minor in the archaeologic histories of Elvis Presley" mindset might be slightly flawed.   I wish trades were higher valued in high school (for the most part, they aren't). I wish colleges worked better alongside people working a full time job (they are 50/50, could be worse but I do wish they could be better). I wish student loans were not so easy to get and especially not so easy to get "extra". When I signed up for my small student loans ($2,000 a semester for two semesters), I could have taken out much, much more. I took out what I I needed for the courses. Some students see it as fun money and tell themselves that they will pay it off 50 years from now lets just make now worth it.

So...I must have hundreds of solves now. Anyone else teach themselves recently?

Oh really? How old are you? I'm 25 and have been working at my current job since 2007. I have been here as a full-time employee since 2012. I have my associates and am only 45 credit hours away from a bachelors. I have $0.00 worth of student debt. My parents didn't help me at all, I didn't get grants but did receive some scholarship money. The rest? I worked it. I say all that to add that I too am disappointed in how it is "the smart thing to do" to rack up $50,000 to $500,000 in debt for a bachelor's degree. I wish the whole education system could be amended. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Curiosity got me. I ordered a SOG Powerlock from Amazon, it's this one:   http://amzn.to/1mFZ5UB   I have always wanted one of the SOG's to tryout. If I get it and don't like the feel of it I am sure Amazon will be happy to accept it back.   Reasons?   Figured I'd give the compound leverage thing a try, 1/4" drive (sounds neat, may sound neater than it is), lots of tools.

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Well if you like it then that is what matters to you. What I love about my watch that I posted above is that it is under $100. Perfectly functional, if I lose it or it gets stolen I'm not devastated, and I have $500 to spend on something else cool. In my opinion an expensive G-Shock is like a Mosin that has $500 extra in it. A $600 Mosin that shoots like a $100 Mosin is in the same ballpark as a $600 G-Shock that tells time just as good as a $100 G-Shock. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  Well, that's definitely a possibility but if I can return it for the cost of shipping for a new one then I think I will do that. If they send me a new one it will have the higher resale value of the two options just in case I decide to try something else.

  Yes, the Gerber that comes with the OTIS IWCK is a black coated 600, basically what I have but with I think C4 tools.

So, here is my conundrum. For a few years my Gerber MP600 Pro Scout has been my go-to multi-tool. However, over the years it has developed the following two issues: One of the flatheads broke and the wire cutter has developed a significant burr and now once the pliers are completely closed you have to use two hands to pull them open again because the burr essentially makes it stick closed. However, I have loved the one handed opening feature overall. Recently in a purchase from a TGO member I acquired an original Leatherman Super-Tool. It is the original and is no longer available. The one I picked up is 100% new. It seems awesome and I am thinking of keeping it. With that being said, I decided to try and send the Gerber back for a replacement. They should do this for free. I then decided that I was interested in the SOG Powerlock series. They use gears in their pliers so you can get more force on them easier. But reading about multi-tools on the internet is about like reading about Glocks vs 1911's, etc etc. Some people love Leatherman, some people love SOG, personally I like the Gerber but think the steel might be a bit soft. I had two Victorinox Swisstools from a local Tennessee Trader purchase about 6 years ago. I sold both of them but wish I had kept one; They were really nice. I started this thread to see what you all thought about multitools. Anyone have a SOG? Should I keep and use the Leatherman? If I don't plan on keeping and using the Leatherman as well as Gerber I will sell them to fund a purchase of what I do want.

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Hahahhahahaha.   https://www.google.com/maps/place/915+Keith+St+NW,+Cleveland,+TN+37311/@35.1698274,-84.8798963,3a,62.6y,288.35h,80.89t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sBt6aS0tMPndmLy2qkMxCNw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DBt6aS0tMPndmLy2qkMxCNw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D320.63705%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x885e2bbeffa0eb91:0x3cb04b6027d235d5   This place is literally within shooting distance of where I live.

Ok. So no Facebook here at work. But what is his name? Business name? Address or location? I really wanna go check this out. Maybe you all can put some money together to get me to go take some classes. Buy me a Go Pro and I'll record everything. :D Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Anybody else watch this in tranquility until the end and then wonder "Hey, why did the machine stop!"? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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  It's a great project, probably by a few college students but also possibly just tinkerers. It is perfect for exercising programming and logic, algorithms etc. All of which (the knowledge) can be applied in vast areas in life.   Why would you cast bullets if you can just buy them?!?!?!?   :koolaid:

Well, the top part comes intuitively to me as well as most people. I had already memorized the algorithm from years ago for middle layer edges. Thus, all I needed were the ones for: Yellow Cross Yellow Edges Yellow Corner Placement Yellow Corner Arrangement So 4 for me, but five or six if you have never messed with one before. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

So, the other day a buddy had a speed-cube. I commented on it and then I quickly realized that it wasn't just a prop for him; He was an expert. So much so that he solved the thing in 14.9 seconds in front of me. We talked a long while and I ended up ordering one. No need to brag, but I taught myself how to solve it in one evening! During research, I found that the world record for a solve is under 5 seconds (I think about 4.9). Some of these people are amazing, memorizing 60 or more algorithms so that they can do they can save as much time as possible while doing the fewest amount of moves. Me, I only had to memorize about 4 different algorithms to completely solve the thing by memory. It is very consuming, I'll solve it in about 2-3 minutes and then mess it up and solve it again. I've probably solved it 50 times or more by now. Anyways, for those wondering what a speed-cube is, this is what I ordered: http://amzn.to/1PUtbuP The reason that these cubes are nice are because they are more loose than the original stock Rubik's Cube. This allows you to make turns without having the sides perfectly aligned, resulting in faster speeds. Also, they have springs inside and you can pop the center white piece cap off and tighten/loosen the tension. I opted for this specific version because it is stickerless and thus the stickers will not peel after use. It is very well made and seems that it will hold up to extended use. I cannot believe I hadn't ever gotten around to learning this things. It has always been "one of those goals" but I literally tackled it in one evening and then had everything memorized the 2nd evening. I recommend one of these to any of you that haven't quite solved a Rubik's cube yet! I haven't actually timed myself yet but it seems about 2-3 minutes tops. Anyone here any good?

Haha. Do you think you would take a 1st Gen iPad and a couple extra 30 Pin cables for it? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Why can you not take it seriously? I carry a Glock so no prejudice here. http://www.glockforum.com/Should-You-Dry-Fire-a-Glock.html http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/24122-CAUTION-from-Glock-on-Dry-Firing! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

There are forum after forum stating that Glocks are damaged from dry firing if you do it enough. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Haha. He was somewhat right in the sense that he said he could be wrong. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Alternative Theory: Mav has a second hidden personality that did it all. Even hot wired it because nobody would suspect someone would hot wire their own vehicle for such a purpose. Altmav is smart and cunning and will likely never be caught. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk