GlockSpock

Well at least they are using better English now. Found this in my spam this morning:) [quote][font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#2F2F2F]Federal Bureau of Investigation[/color][/size][/font][font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#000000] [/color][/size][/font] [color=#000000][font=Arial][size=1][font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#2F2F2F]intelligence field unit[/color][/size][/font][font=Times New Roman][size=3] [/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#2F2F2F]J. Edgar Hoover building[/color][/size][/font][font=Times New Roman][size=3] [/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#2F2F2F]935 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW Washington, DC.[/color][/size][/font][font=Times New Roman][size=3] [/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#2F2F2F]urgent attention: beneficiary[/color][/size][/font][font=Times New Roman][size=3] [/size][/font][/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=Arial][size=1][font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#2F2F2F]I am special agent John Edward[/color][/size][/font][font=Times New Roman][size=4][color=#2F2F2F],[/color][/size][/font][font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#2F2F2F] representing the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) intelligence unit. we have just intercepted and confiscated two (2) trunks at John F Kennedy airport in New York, and are on the verge of moving it to our bureau headquarters.[/color][/size][/font][font=Times New Roman][size=3] [/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#2F2F2F]We have scanned these boxes, and have found them to contain a total sum of $4.1 million and accompanying documents which bears your name as the receiver of this money. The investigation carried out on this diplomat who accompanied these trunks into the united states uncovered that he was to deliver this money to your residence as payment owed to you as payment[/color][/size][/font][font=Times New Roman][size=3] [/size][/font][font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#2F2F2F]for a contract, inheritance, lotto, loan, etc.[/color][/size][/font][font=Times New Roman][size=3] [/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#2F2F2F]we cross-checked all legal documentation in the trunks, and were about to release the consignment to the diplomat, when we found out that the trunks are missing two very important documents, which resulted in the confiscation of this money.[/color][/size][/font][font=Times New Roman][size=3] [/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#2F2F2F]According to section 229, subsection 31 of the 1991 constitution in tax payment, your consignment lacks a proof of ownership certificate, and also the legal delivery permit clearance certificate from the joint team of the IRS and homeland security. Therefore, you must contact us for instructions as for procuring the two certificates then you will be cleared of the suspicion of tax evasion.[/color][/size][/font][font=Times New Roman][size=3] T[/size][/font][font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#2F2F2F]his crime is a punishable offense under section 12, subsection 441 of the IRS tax code.[/color][/size][/font][font=Times New Roman][size=3] [/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#2F2F2F]you are therefore required to get back to me at this email address{[/color][/size][/font][url="http://uk.mc1219.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=agent.john_e0002@superposta.com"][font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#0062E1][u]agent.john_e0001@superposta.com[/u][/color][/size][/font][/url][font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#2F2F2F]} within 72hours. i will then guide you on how to get the needed documents. Failure to comply with our directive may lead you into legal trouble as you may be arrested, interrogated and prosecuted in the court of law for money laundering.[/color][/size][/font][font=Times New Roman][size=3] [/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#2F2F2F]We may also get the Financial Action Task Force on money laundering (FATF) involved if you do not follow our instructions. You are also advised not to get in contact with any bank in Africa, Europe or any other institution, as your money is already here in the United States of America, and will be delivered to any country of your choice, once you secure these required documents.[/color][/size][/font][/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=Arial][size=1][font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#2F2F2F]Yours in service[/color][/size][/font][font=Times New Roman][size=3] [/size][/font] [color=#888888][font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#2F2F2F]Agent John Edward[/color][/size][/font][font=Times New Roman][size=3] [/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#2F2F2F]regional director[/color][/size][/font][font=Times New Roman][size=3] [/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#2F2F2F]federal bureau of investigation[/color][/size][/font][font=Times New Roman][size=3] [/size][/font][/color][/size][/font][/color] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#2F2F2F]e-mail:[/color][/size][/font][url="http://uk.mc1219.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=agent.john_e0002@superposta.com"][font=Times New Roman][size=3][color=#0062E1][u]agent.john_e0001@superposta.com[/u][/color][/size][/font][/url][/quote]

A coworker was on a deep sea boating trip. To make an extremely detailed story short, they hit a wave and he flew up into the air and then his spine landed on a concrete chair. The captain "thought" he was just being wimpy and denied bringing him back to shore. Thus, it was a very long time before he got help. The doctors said he would never walk again, and for a while it looked like that would be the case. But when it was time for physical rehab, he surprised a few folks. Has to use a cane, but I suppose a cane is better than a wheelchair. Keep your head high.

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Graveyard thread

I remember once, right here in Cleveland, when I was in Elementary School. One of the teachers was telling us the "horror story" of one time when she saw a worker (I figure someone probably contracted to work on the school or fix something. I could be wrong) who had a knife sheath on his belt. He was reported and confronted. It turned out that it was a screwdriver he was keeping in the sheath. To end the story, she said something along the lines of "It was just stupid that he would keep a screwdriver in a knife sheath". WTH is wrong with this country?

After some research, I'm led to believe this is the issue knife? http://www.amazon.com/Victorinox-Swiss-Soldier-Knife-Standard/dp/B001RL7OPU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1353360754&sr=8-1&keywords=Soldatenmesser+08

You've got me curious about these things now. Having owned SWAK's before, I've never owned one of these with the aluminum scales. [quote]The Swiss Army now issues a much larger and heavy knife with tools for their new issue rifles.[/quote] Which one do they now issue for curiosity's sake?

Looking for something gun related I suppose. I like the idea of placing an x before and after whatever. I may play around with that. Good suggestions so far!

[quote]Master Debater[/quote] I'm sure that one was taken a long time ago by some six year old...

I recently had a bit of extra cash in my pocket, so I decided to purchase an Xbox 360 Bundle. It has been a few years since I have messed around with the 360's, the "Dashboard" has really came a long way! Anyways, Live gave me a name by default, but I can change it once for free. CZ9mm is taken (by whom!?!?). Just hoping some of you wittier than I folks might be able to suggest something awesome. So if you can come up with something pro 2nd amendment, that'd be awesome! To make this fun....lets make it a contest! If someone suggests something that is available and I decide to use it, I will give that person something. I just haven't figured out what yet...

I know this is off the original post's topic, but I saw a preview for "Warm Bodies" this weekend. It looks...interesting. I will probably watch it. Look it up somewhere. Certainly different, but I think it will be worth watching.

I love Redwings. I don't pay for them, work does, but I would probably buy them even if they money came out of my own pocket. I find them very comfortable (the non steel toed versions), and they last a very long time too.

[quote]This brings to mind the imminent deployment by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) of portable invisible lasers developed by Genia Laboratories (a company created by CIA offshoot In-Q-Tel) that can detect even trace amounts of gun powder from over 50 yards away. The laser reportedly can penetrate walls, glass, and metal. DHS is scheduled to take possession of the devices later this month, according to testimony presented on Capitol Hill late last year.[/quote] Been thinking about this for a few days. Sounds like it is straight out of science fiction. I'm wondering if it is science fiction; i.e. propaganda designed to place fear into anyone that has considered burying something for storage. Of course if we took any existing tech from today's society and showed it to anyone half a century ago, they would think it impossible as well. I guess I have a hard time believing a laser can penetrate walls and metal up to 50 yards away, and and then be able to bounce back and reveal the molecular structure of anything. I have been wrong before. [quote]S&T’s first project via In-Q-Tel was just announced with a company called Genia Photonics. This company developed a tunable laser source for the medical community and S&T is investigating the feasibility of this technology to perform non-contact, trace explosives detection.[/quote] Found this in one of the articles the original story linked to. If this stuff indeed works as well as hyped, amazing technology. Unfortunately like all amazing technology, it has the potential for so much good or so much evil.

Out of curiosity, what is a "good deal" on one of these? PM if you would like. Also, does it bolt to the floor? Two men could easily carry this thing out of your house, it would probably be big enough for me right now but I just want reassurance against how good it is for stopping theft. What all do you like about it? Is there anything you dislike about it?

[quote]That game is rigged. I believe they are all guilty of something.[/quote] I think that is the point. All of them have been arrested for something, you just have to pick which "perp" was arrested for the listed crime.

I remember going into Sportsman's Warehouse in Chattanooga and only seeing one firearm on the wall: A cowboy style single action revolver. I also remember seeing a Glock magazine (standard capacity) sell for close to $50 at a show (perhaps they still do, haven't been to a show since). (This is answering the "What was it like in 2008?" question. I didn't and still don't pay much attention to reloading supplies, although I'd love to I currently don't have room in the rental I live in. Perhaps someday...)

[quote]Comparing us to the above mentioned countries is hardly a valid argument, in my opinion. The US probably has more guns and gun owners than all of those countries combined.[/quote] Pass a few laws and post a few penalties, and when it comes down to it it won't matter how many gunowners this country currently has. How many fathers would risk ten years jail-time per firearm when he has a family to take care of? How many working class people would risk an ammo stockpile at $100 per round fine? It will get really hairy when times really get rough and you have people going hungry. Then all the government has to do is offer food vouchers or monetary payoffs to anyone that reports any fellow comrades holding out. Today you may be shooting buddies, but if your buddy's family is starving, he may just give the government a call and tell them about that one place you hid a box of ammo with a rifle. Of course (hopefully) this is extreme, but if the government was allowed to do it and we were to let them get away with it, it is exactly how it could go down. Today's generations have no idea what suffering is like. They have no idea what freedom means. Of course the founding fathers of our country wouldn't balk at a confiscation of arms; They would fight and die for it. They knew what it meant to live under suppression; They knew what it meant to die freely. Unfortunately, I think the 2nd amendment is something that a very large percentage would sacrifice if it were announced that no firearms owner would be allowed to buy the newest iPhone or something. Today's generation doesn't care about being free; They care about whether they have WiFi access and whether or not they have unlimited data on their cell plan. Or at least I fear...

[quote]Someone told me that the powder is made to deteriorate in two years.[/quote] I have a feeling that this rumor stems from the rumor that was going around several years ago. There was talk going around that the government was going to require that powder in ammo would "break down" in a mere matter of a few years. The thought behind this was that it would allow the government to prevent stockpiles. What good is buying thousands of rounds to store if it isn't going to be good in a years time? This of course was rumor, and although I'm sure many in government love this idea, I don't know if there was really any basis behind the rumor.

[quote]Also I carry a glock 23 every Sunday in church with a tuckable holster. My draw is MAYBE a second slower than with an untucked shirt draped over. Again it's all about what you train for. The only thing you have to watch out for is the huggers. I dodge them when I see them coming haha.[/quote] My family and my wife's family are all huggers. I got in the habit a long time ago of "hugging low". This forces in most cases the other person to "hug high".

[quote]But if by some chance someone did have a firearm in church and it accidently discharged what then? That would be really messed up and I bet a person would probably have to change churches afterward! LOL! People would be scared to sit next to the guy. His whole pew, the pew in front of him, and the pew behind him; all empty! People are standing in the aisles and against the wall rather than sit by him. Am I wrong for thinking that would be funny as hell?[/quote] Negligent discharges are never funny. Outside of pure mechanical failure (which is practically nonexistent I would imagine), all negligent discharges can be prevented.

[quote]If you all are gonna continue to argue down my position with common sense and logic then I'm just not gonna talk anymore![/quote] This Sunday I expect a thread titled "So I finally got this right!".

[quote][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Lets try a little test.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Wear your gun IWB tuckable holster and time your draw.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Then...[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Put your gun in your car trunk and time your retrieval.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Whichever one is the fastest is what I'd go with.[/font][/color][/quote] Winner!

[quote]I used to carry in a IWB tuckable holster but I figured that in the event that I need the weapon it probably woun't be in the middle of church and if it's in a tuckable holster with my shirt tucked in it would take more time to reveal and draw so I just stopped and started leaving it in my car.[/quote] To be honest, you could live your life like the majority of Americans do: Unarmed Statistics say that you would be ok, generally. And I don't know what type of church you go to, but [b]something[/b] is better than [b]nothing[/b]. I would even go as far to say that California style carry (empty firearm, loaded magazine in pocket or on weak side) is better than nothing.

[quote]And I don't take my gun in church with me; it stays in the trunk of my car while I'm inside and I re-arm as I'm leaving and headed home so please don't assume that since it's Sunday and I have a suit on and I'm armed that I'm in church catching the holy ghost with my gun on my side.[/quote] Then I would like to make the motion that you start going to church back home you Yankee Would you go to church without your wallet? Would you go to church without your car keys? Would you go to church without your cell phone? Would you go to church without your shoes? Would you go to church without your pocket knife? For me, a firearm concealed is just another tool or piece of gear. I look at it like this. For someone that always wears your seat belt, would you drive to church on Sunday morning without it on? Don't take this the wrong way. You have every right to do as you wish, I'm just letting you know that you don't have to explain things to us to we won't assume you are doing a bad thing.

[quote][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Why is the Sport so great?[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]I will just give you a quick run down of the Sport and why it is such a great gun.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]1. The barrel is a 5R rifled barrel.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]5R barrels are known for their accuracy regardless of caliber. For whatever reason they just shoot and shoot well. It also increases the velocity by virtue of how the rifling is laid out.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]2. The barrel is Melonite treated.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Melonite treatments are far better than any chrome lining as far as hardness and durability. It also offers an exception amount of corrosion resistance. It is more than just a surface coating like chrome, it actually treats the metal and goes subsurface.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]3. The bolt is properly heat treated.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]This is very important for the long term durability of the firearm. It ensures the headspace will remain in spec longer than those bolts that are not heat treated properly. Poorly heat treated bolts will either wear prematurely or break from being too brittle.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]4. It has a barrel twist rate of 8[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]This twist rate allows you to fire the heaviest bullets that can be fed from a magazine, up to 80 grains. And because it isn't a 7 twist (like most others out there) you can also fire the lightweight varmint style bullets without fear of the jackets seperating.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]5. It comes ready to fire.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]It comes with a Magpul rear sight while most competitors, even those 100's of dollars more expensive, do not. The sights have been proven for several years now both by those in harms way as well as the weekend shooter. It also includes a Magpul magazine which has also been proven for seveal years now.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]6. It is built to the same specs as all other AR's[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]This means you can upgrade and swap parts to build a gun that suits your wants or needs. And because it is an AR most of the work can be done by the owner and if it is a milspec part it [/font][/color][u][u][u][u][u]WILL[/u][/u][/u][/u][/u][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] fit.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]7. The price[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]In reality if any other maker were to offer the same features as the Sport has they would be asking 100's of dollars more. The 5R barrel and Melonite treatment were once only offered on high end guns. And included in the price is a warranty that is among the best in the industry.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]You cannot go wrong with the M&P Sport and they are hard to find because they are such a great gun.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Dolomite [/font][/color] [/quote] Interesting. I never quite looked into the S&W's when purchasing an AR. Obviously the S&W has a few things that more expensive rifles do not, but how would you compare them to a Colt 6920, a rifle that I thought was considered the gold standard for $1000 range AR's.