GlockSpock

  In other words, if you were to keep a loaded firearm in your car and used it to defend yourself in a "clean" shooting, you will not be prosecuted for the weapon violation. This is in TN. I believe this applies to schools and other places to. So for example, if you were breaking the law by carrying on school grounds but used that gun to stop a mass murderer, you would be protected from the state.    That is my understanding.   My advice? Get a permit. 

I'll bump this thread once every evening until they are all gone. Hope you all enjoy!

  I know right? I'm keeping my CZ for sure, it is a great shooter.

5 left to anyone that wants them!

Well, this is something I have thought about. I try to purchase American made stuff when it comes to gear/lights/etc, but in terns of handguns in a sense I am interested in a lot of them. I will take a look at SW for sure. Just as good as Glock most people say?

I will look at all of them, that is for sure. I am hoping that due to AR's being the main buying panic right now, the local shops still have some handguns today. Magazine availability is probably my 2nd concern, I would like spare magazines to be had for $20 each (normally, I understand they may be hard to find right now). 

Glock Lovers,   I am interested in purchasing a much simpler firearm (in terms of parts) than a CZ-75. I love them, but there are so many parts. I am interested in purchasing a Glock 19 (if I can find one locally). To me, I am curious about the Gen 3 vs Gen 4 comparisons. Weren't the Gen 4's known for reliability issues? Has that been fixed now? Please Glockers, help me to appreciate these guns. I plan on taking a look at a shop or two at 5:00.

Me too. This is why I am also in the market for a much simpler firearm. Creating a new thread to gain more attention to Glocks.

No problem! 5 More.

Looks like there are 6 more!

I'll admit, Dhar is not King. However, if you like zombies, you will like this book I feel. Don't expect book of the year or the like. However, I enjoyed it so much because of the message of freedom vs bondage. Alice in Deadland is the cheapest, there is a sequel and then (lastly written) a prequel. I have not read the prequel yet but will. I look forward to discussions about the book here.

I may be willing to give Glock another try. Probably the 19, gen 3 or gen 4? I remember at one time gen 4's had a few issues, I would like to have a gen 4 I suppose unless they still aren't considered as reliable. Tell me everything anyone knows about G19's.

So far this is going great. Anyone interested in PM'ing me, go for it, but the point of the PM is for your email!  :rofl:

On paper they are non-profit. However, their leaders receive a salary (like practically all non-profit organizations). I am not discreditng the NRA, but simply asking people to think about a few things they might not have thought about. The question I am asking is this, "Does the NRA truly want to see all gun rights restored to their constitutional level?".  The NRA certainly isn't the only group that I am concerned about, just the largest. I joined the GOA at the first of the week, and am right now rejoining the NRA today as I just got a pocket full of change!   I just don't want people to put all their 2nd Amendment loving faith into the NRA.

Well, if you have an Android or IOS device, or a Windows or Mac computer, there are apps/programs to install that allow you to read the Kindle books on them.   http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&docId=1000493771   PM me if you want to be number 2.

It is fine. PM me your email and I will gift it via Amazon. 

If half the money spent in a panic this weekend went to anything, it would be a very large amount of money. However, consider the following for a second. Under which of the following scenarios do you believe the NRA would gain more money (profits).   Scenario 1: Total restoration of gun rights. NFA eliminated. Constitutional carry eliminated everywhere. SCOTUS backed all of this. Scenario 2: Moderate gun control with impending further restriction. Occasional "wins" and occasional "losses" (compromises).   All I am saying, a profit organization such as the NRA "loses" if gun rights are completely restored in every possible way. Just something to keep in mind.

[via Amazon Kindle]   It is Christmas. I guess I want to be a little extra cheerful. Also, I loved the book and thought that it had a very powerful underlying message. It is also about zombies. So, I am going to purchase a digital copy of this book for 10 people that want one. So the first 10 people that post on here that they want one, and then PM me their Kindle account email (so I can gift it to them), I will purchase the book for them. Please note, Amazon Prime members can borrow the book for free, so I ask that you not place your claim here.   However, there are two requirements that I am going to ask of you but keep in mind they are not enforceable. First, I ask that after you read it you come on here to discuss the book. Secondly, I ask that if you enjoy the book and also feel it has an important undertone, I ask that you find someone else either on this thread of someone else you know, and purchase the book for them.    http://www.amazon.com/Alice-in-Deadland-ebook/dp/B006AQYAA4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1356023816&sr=8-2&keywords=alice+in+deadland   1: JD_ Sent 2: RobertY Sent 3: gnmwilliams Sent 4: Steelharp Sent 5: Jimmydeuce Sent 6: cardcutter Sent 7: dralarms Sent 8: zybysco Sent 9: plank white Sent 10: ochretoe Sent

Everyone with a digital reader read Alice in Deadland.

I guess I am just sorta in a down mood right now after reading quite a bit after Googling "CZ-75 slide stop break". All mechanical things break, I understand that. But in the current climate of things (gun control, possible financial collapse of the country, etc), I guess I just want something durable without having it serviced ever.    I have tried a Glock 19 before, and I may have been biased but after it jamming once within just a few rounds I was prejudiced. I may buy one of those, and spend the $500 difference between a Glock and an HK on a holster for the G19, spare magazines, and then a few spare parts for my P-01.    I love the light carry weight of allow guns, but I don't like the shortened life of them. But the P-01 is supposed to go 15,000-30,000 (depending on how hot of ammo you shoot). I doubt I'll put 5000 in a good number of years.   I guess the CZ slide stop threads as well as all this emotional drama in regards to guns just has me in a low mood right now. Today we had a Christmas luncheon for work. I sat at a table with some higher ups of the company as well as a few "lower" people. When i sat down one of the higher ups was asking someone else why so and so didn't make it. It was because they would rather go to the gun store and buy some ammo/guns before anything serious prevents them from doing so. Then the talk went back and forth (anecdotally) about how you don't need "assault rifles" and cannot deer hunt with them. A lot of incorrect facts were spread back and forth. I mostly kept my mouth shut due to the higher ups being there and me being a relatively new employee (I don't think it is a good opportunity as the new guy to come across as extremely pro gun to your new employer shortly after a massacre). So I kept my mouth shut and just cringed at things. Wish we could have good news of some sort.

  Warranties are useless in a scenario in which "you'd be throwing it in your waistband and owning it for the rest of your life, without support of any kind for the pistol?".

I'm thinking Glock or HK. HK's cost almost twice that of a Glock though. Surely there is a hardcore Glock guy here and a hardcore HK guy here that can show me all sorts of statistics and torture tests, right?

Well I am not so much talking about "reliability" but rather build quality. My P-01 probably has 600-800 rounds and has never failed me, not once. If I could afford to buy 50,000 rounds of ammo and then go fire round after round and note what failures occur when. I love my CZ, but for one it has an alloy frame and two it is possible that 75's have a slide stop weakness.   I suppose the main concern here is finding a pistol that will go a very high round count without requiring any replacement of parts.

This thread is to ask suggestions for the most durable/longest lasting 9mm handguns. What I mean by this, is what 9mm handguns typically go the longest without parts replacement of any kind? I have a feeling I know the general consensus: Glock. Please let me explain. I love CZ-75's. However, I've been doing a lot of reading about then recently, and there is rumored to be a problem with the slide stops breaking relatively quickly (as in, it is a disposable part). Now, as long as you have access to a replacement of slide stops, I'd consider this relatively a non-issue. However, I am asking what handgun would you buy if you knew you could never buy another part for it at all? What handgun would you buy if you'd be throwing it in your waistband and owning it for the rest of your life, without support of any kind for the pistol?   I'd like this pistol to have readily available magazines, holsters, (night) sights, etc. In other words, I'd like it to be a combat proven  "standard" pistol.   As much as I love my P-01, I guess a lot of this AWB stuff has me doubting it a little bit. One reason would be is that I have not taken it completely apart myself (it is much more complex that many firearms). I have my eyes on a CZ-75b stainless matte at a local shop for about $710 out the door. But the slide stop issue as well as how uncommon the CZ-75 is compared to other pistols in the US have me wondering if the pistol is a good choice for "long term ownership".

DOS attack?