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Also, a tumbler like this might be cool for other things too, right? Obviously rock tumbling would be possible. What else?

I am creating this as a side-by-side thread in regards to my reloading thread. I purchased a vibratory tumbler but returned it because I am 95% sure I want to buy a stainless wet rotary tumbler instead.   Rotary w/ Stainless Media Benefits   Cleans brass much better Media never wears out (unless you lose it) Does not put lead dust in air (lead water is better!) Cheaper operating cost (no buying media and polish/etc) Rotary w/ Stainless Media Cons   Cost I wonder how long that motor lasts when kept within recommended weight limits Replacement cost when breaks So far I've only read about "Thumler's Tumbler" and www.stainlesstumblingmedia.com (which uses Thumler's Tumblers I believe).   So I'm asking which heavy duty rotary tumbler I should purchase for this brass tumbling purpose. I really like the looks of the Thumler's Tumbler Model B, but that's only because it is pretty and red (like my redheaded Wife) as well as my Lee Press (which will be seen next to the tumbler much more than my wife). However, it looks like the Stainless Steel Deluxe Reloading Kit is probably a better purchase since it is higher capacity, includes everything you need, but isn't made by Thumler's.   I am just asking the in's and out's of stainless brass tumbling, what to purchase, and where to purchase it. If I'm spending $150-$300 on a tumbler, I want it to be built to last and perform in every way expected so that I won't regret the purchase.

So last night I took my Glock 19 barrel and a 9mm round and inspected just how much "chamber support" there is (or isn't). On a Glock 19 Gen 3, in my opinion, it supports nearly the entire case. There is a very small amount of the case wall that isn't supported, but I suspect many modern service pistols would be quite similar in this regard.   I suppose it comes down to two points: Not trying to see how much powder you can put in a round before it blows up and inspecting each and every casing for warning signs before reloading.   My verdict is that I'll be find in regards to the brass. I'll probably get a Lone Wolf barrel someday just so I can shoot the lead bullets for targets and what not.   Suppose this one is decided for now. I think everyone gets "itches" to try something new sometimes....it is just hard to move from something that generally just works.

Reloading comments for the stock Glock? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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  You're just upset you didn't think of it first.  :rofl:

I thought I had already created a thread for this a month or two ago, but 30 minutes of searching turned up nothing.   I have an inkling to switch over to the M&P 9's from the Glockside.   M&P Pro's USA LCI Ergonomics (arguably) Rifled Barrel (better for reloading) Better Supported Chamber (I think) 9c (compared to G26) Has A Rail Glock Pro's   Cheaper Magazines 33 Round Magazines Slightly Simpler Takedown/Internals Parts/Accessories Availibility Now, I talked myself out of it a few months ago, but I have an even bigger itch now. I'm getting started on reloading, and although arguably minor issues I have reservations about reloading Glocks due to the "unsupported chamber" issues as well as the polygonal rifling. Now, I'm well aware that I could get a Lone Wolf barrel that would solve those issues, and I'm open to doing so. But if I "switch" to M&P and like them just as much, I avoid having to purchase the barrel altogether.   However, some research has shown that if I stick to plated bullets in my Glock 19 Gen 3, I will be fine. Supposedly the chamber support issue is better than in earlier Gen 2's and 1's. Stay away from trying to develop maximum loads, and the brass should be ok. Is this the case?   Still, I have a desire to give the S&W's a shot. I know this is sorta like a Ford vs. Toyota argument, but help me out. It would just have to be attempted to see if it works out, but I think I could sale my G19/G26 with all accessories/holsters and then purchase the equivalents of M&P9/9c and still have a few dollars cash left over. Thoughts?   Also I have to consider this. The M&P9 is about the size of a Glock 17. I currently carry a Glock 19 with a Surefire X300 Ultra in a Raven Phantom LC. Obviously the M&P9 will be a bit longer, but is it still capable of comfortably being carried?   Ultimately, I need to shoot an M&P 9 and 9c in order to fully make the decision. I'd love to meet someone in Cleveland/Chattanooga and give it a shot if you own them. If you have a Raven Concealment LC holster for it, that would be even better.

  Hi! I see you are (relatively) new here. We here at TGO specialize in securing malls, shopping centers, playgrounds, museums, etc.   Myself? My SO (we work as a team when necessary) has a similar accessory containing a breakdown NEF single-shot 300 WinMag with an 18" bbl. The plan is that I shield us with my body and “catch the rounds” while she assembles the NEF. I lay down covering fire with my 23 (Bar-Sto .357 Sig barrel) and she makes the long shots. I will then throw smoke grenades to obscure the area while continuing to lay covering fire. The problem, of course, is when I have to turn my back to run, and then the problem crops up.   HCP Badge anyone?

On the drive back from work, though, it got me to thinking about a better way to do it. What would be really neat is if they made a version only compatible with PMAG's. Instead of the "side clips" like they are using in the shown photos they would use a "PMAG Cover" that essentially is a PMAG Dust Cover integrated into their 6 PMAG Mounting Bracket. To get your magazine you would simply pull on it. When you do this, the "dust cover" (remember, it's essentially molded into the bracket) disconnects and you have a ready to use PMAG. This would have all the benefits of using the dust covers with all the benefits of having them "ready to go" outside of their dust cover.

Also, I was quite surprised at the price. A lot of stuff like this tends to be very expensive just because it can be. I feel that the price is reasonably decent for an AR-15 accessory.

http://m.laruetactical.com/magstore-solutions-ar-15-magazine-storage Never seen these before but this is awesome! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  So you're saying that he is crimping the case to the bullet too tightly and thus allowing the entire cartridge too far into the chamber? I remember you telling me about this when I spoke with you many months ago.   As such, should I purchase a Lee 3 or 4 piece die set for reloading 9mm?

Actually ended up canceling the Frankford Arsenal one. I think I will indeed go with stainless rotary tumbling, but it will be a while off. Instead I'm going to use Dolomite's Lemishine method. However, what about Universal Decapping Dies?   So I would use this before tumbling/etc and it will not get my 9mm dies dirty, right? This sounds great for decapping dirty brass. If i use this Universal Decapping Die, will the primer still fall free into the "tube" that the Lee Classic Cast has? I'm not going to lie, this feature was one of the features that steered my towards this press.

So, update. My Lee Classic Cast gets here tomorrow. I just ordered via Amazon the Frankford Arsenal tumbler. At Walmart earlier I picked up a generic corn cob bedding for pets for $5. My next purchase will be wood, I'm going to build a bench! I think I'm going to do something very close to this: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/290870_Official_andamp_quot_HOW_TOandamp_quot__build_a_basic_reloading_bench__Plans_and_Process_w_pics.html Looks like it will be very sturdy and stay simplistic. This will just be to get me started; Once I purchase a house in the upcoming 1-2 years, I will hopefully be able to build a much fancier bench. Unless someone has better ideas, I think I'll try and tackle the above bench this upcoming weekend. After the bench, I plan on buying my set of dies so that I can d-eprime the brass after tumbling. Then my purchase will be primers and that Lee handprimer. WooHoo!

Today's youth? Here are my thoughts: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FWBUl7oT9sA And I'm only 23. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[quote name="c.a.willard" post="1114867" timestamp="1393041121"]You could call an FFL in that persons area and see if they would be willing to act as an escrow. You send them payment in the form of MO or Cashiers check they hold it until he brings in gun to be shipped to you. I think in this case it would also be reasonable for you to pay the FFL for their troubles[/quote] This. Call a highly regarded FFL in the area, explain the situation, and offer them $25-$50 pure profit on top of what you are paying for the gun and shipping. Send the money to the FFL, but only after the FFL has possession of the firearm. You of course will have to instruct the Seller to go to the FFL. The only way I would try doing it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

My wife added that we should have our TGO usernames on the badges/sashes/etc so that we can identify whom is whom. I mean, it would be really good to be able to identify each other with the quick flash of a badge and instantly remember each other's strengths and weaknesses and daily carry. Like, I know that anyone else that carries a 9mm Glock could potentially pass off a magazine and vice versa if new be, simply by keeping up to date here and the quick flash of a badge while behind cover. She's a thinker too. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thoughts on Vibratory Tumblers vs. Rotary Tumblers?

  Thanks! I almost got into it nearly a year ago but never made any purchases. I've known sort of what I've wanted for a while but I'm just now getting into it. Perhaps someday I will be interested in a progressive, but right now I am simply interested in simplicity and quality/accuracy. In my initial starting, I plan on weighing each charge as I load it and then weighing each loaded round after being assembled. I know that ultimately there will be some minor variance that you have to live with but I just want assurance that I didn't either miss a load or double up a load or something like that.   I'm probably more interested in reloading 9mm right now that rifle cartridges because, in my humble opinion, pistol rounds seem easier than rifle rounds. Perhaps that isn't the case but it seems you have to worry more about trimming and the like with rifle rounds. Thus, right now I haven't even researched trimming methods at all. Tomorrow I might go to Harbor Freight and pickup that tumbler. Can someone post a picture of the lizard bedding stuff that everyone seems to enjoy?

[quote name="gregintenn" post="1114681" timestamp="1393021335"]I've had a Frankford Arsenal tumbler for many years, and it still works just as it did when new. Corncob pet bedding media with a squirt of Nu Finish car polish is an inexpensive alternative to gun brass specific media. It is larger, however, and tends to get lodged in bottleneck rifle brass. It works well with pistol brass. With the tumbler, you'll also want to get a sifter/bucket combo to separate the brass and media after cleaning. You might devise some other way to do it, but you'll need something. Now that I think of it, I don't believe case lube has been mentioned. You'll need it for the rifle brass, but if you get carbide pistol dies, it won't be necessary for them. [url="http://www.amazon.com/Lee-Precision-50th-Anniversary-Reloading/dp/B00162RM3E"]http://www.amazon.com/Lee-Precision-50th-Anniversary-Reloading/dp/B00162RM3E[/url] Have you considered a kit?[/quote] Well..I have considered a kit. I would have purchased that one except it is aluminum instead of iron. I have heard of the pet bedding...will try it. Guess I will probably go with the FA tumbler. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Unfortunately he'll be out and about in another few months after his arrest just like he is now from his August 2013 arrest.

  I was thinking of the robot from the original Lost in Space.     Why stop there? Lets get it a little larger and it will shield a large percentage of our body from incoming rounds!

  So I may and I may not. I probably will, but I just "first" wanted to see how to prime with the press. Right now I'm looking at tumblers. Soaking them in Lemishine does work, but I want them to be shiny. Right now I like the looks of this:   Frankford Arsenal   However, everyone on here always talks about the Harbor Freight Tumbler. With a coupon, the price is pretty much negligible between the two.   Thoughts on tumblers?

  Thanks! Yes, I certainly wish I could have gotten setup at the end of Fall 2013, but other financial priorities came up. I also don't think I have shot since Summer 2013, so I decided to get reloading stuff now so that I can shoot this summer and not feel too guilty about it. I've been piling as much as I can into savings for a house, and the extra 250 to 500 rounds a month I would like to shoot just hasn't happened yet. Once I get setup, it can!   I think I will go with the 4 die set. I've read that it is often easier for beginners to go this route.   Thanks for the input on the lock rings.   At this point, I am thinking that I will probably put on hold the Hornady LNL Conversion bushingsas well as quite probably the hand primer. I'd like to get a feel for reloading "the classic way" without all these little shortcut tools that we have now. Then a month or two later, I'll "upgrade" to the Hornady Conversion and the Hand Primer.   All of this stuff about reloading has really made me want a Ruger GP100 and a .308 bolt gun. 

In terms of pure technological software. I don't have any experience running forums, but I have set one up before. You could setup a "LAMP" server for free. Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP You can do this with Ubuntu Server pretty easily. I think you could start and have a lamp server in less than 30 minutes if not 20. http://www.ubuntu.com/server As far as the forum software: https://www.phpbb.com http://www.phorum.org/ http://vanillaforums.org/ It'd take a few hours reading and tweaking, but I'd say you could have a forum running from your house in about 2-4 hours if you went at it. But then you'd spend much more than that customizing it all. Unless you wanted to, you could technically get by without spending a single $ on software. You have the hardware, your only fixed cost would be ISP. You could cheat and use something like dyDNS, but you are correct that the right way to do it would be to pay for a business account.