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That will last about 24 to 48 hours. Same for hospitals. As for the grid, I can tell that TVA is working hard to fortify their portion of the grid from cyber attack.

Took the Hi-Point out and put 62 rounds down the pipe.  Had 2 failure to feeds with ball ammunition.  Chalked that up to my daughter limp wristing.  When her boyfriend and I shot it, there was no problem what so ever.  I corrected her shooting form and her next two mags were perfect.  Then I fired 12 hollow points.  I had two FTFs on that.  I figure a good polishing will take care if that problem.  As for accuracy, it was fine. Groups were averaging 2-4 inches at 15 yards.    The sights are a combination of a yellow dot post front sight and a two red dot rear sight.  They were sharp and very easy to pick up.   It's a very comfortable pistol to shoot, unlike other blow back pistols I've had in the past.  Seems like in lighter .380 blowback pistols, the recoil is extremely noticeable to me.  With a SIG 230 I once had my hand would be literally shaking after two magazines.   All in all, I am a very happy camper with this purchase.  Ugly as sin, but worth every penny of $125!  :D

Lucifer's Hammer was the first post apocalyptic book I read. Excellent read!!!

Beautiful knife!

I really don't like a firearm without iron sights.  That being said, I am presently looking to trade one of my ARs for a .308 tactical bolt of semi auto rifle.  I know that any bolt gun like that won't have iron sights.

Something like this would be what I would be after at maybe half the cost.  I'd want to add panhards and a rear rack with maybe what I remember being called a sissy bar.  I'd want to be able to mount a large back to it and a sissy bar makes sense in order to tie off the pack.

No it's not!  Bet it's a pain to peddle.

Nice looking team!!!

  Hammer, sorry to hear about your daughter.  Diabetes is a horrible thing to have.  My wife is now also dependent on insulin.  I'm not sure digging a hole would get you where you need to be.  Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but a cave temperature will usually be at a steady temperature of 58 degrees F or so.  I doubt a hole in the ground would be any colder, unless it were winter time.

When I had my Hi-Point 9mm Carbine I wasted money on Pro-Mag 15 round magazines.  $35 later, I found out that I shoulda stuck to Hi-Point mags.  I usually don't forget a lesson. :koolaid:

Picked up two more mags today.  Hi-Point 8 rounders.  No after market mags for me.

See I think you use whatever is at hand. I think a good, sturdy, inexpensive bike has a place in your bug out or bug in kit. And has pointed out by someone earlier one does not need to feed a bike or gas it up. Not to mention you can use it under normal conditions for things like cheap transportation or getting in shape. ☺

So if motor transportation wasn't available, what would you do walk, ride a bicycle or find an animal?

Let me clarify further , we are talking about bicycles. ☺

What got the bike thing started was the discussion about what all a EMP would knock out, like all cars that use computers. Bikes don'e use computers. :)

Don't know yet, but I plan to find out this weekend!!!

I'd love to see this happen, but I doubt it does.  But if it does, I want one!!! :)

Also, if you don't like to pedal all the time, there are kits that allow you to add a small gas powered engine to the bike.  There is a man in Halls, near Knoxville, that rides one of these all the time.   http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3ABicycle%20Engine%20Kits   Also, if I were going to do a bug out bike, I'd get one of these to go with it.  We used to have one when my oldest was little My wife and I would right and tow her.  It was also great for hauling loads around in as well. Some of them can old almost 200 lbs!!!   http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_13?url=search-alias%3Doutdoor-recreation&field-keywords=bicycle+trailer&sprefix=Bicycle+trail%2Caps%2C278&rh=i%3Aoutdoor-recreation%2Ck%3Abicycle+trailer

During the Vietnam War, the North Vietnamese moved most everything down the Ho Chi Minh Trail on bicycles.  They didn't ride them, they pushed them.  They could push loads as heavy as a 660lbs on them using two men.  One bike hauled a record 100 tons over the course from 1961-1962.   http://www.historynet.com/pedal-power-bicycles-in-wartime-vietnam.htm

We got off topic on the EMP thread and got to talking about bikes. So I thought I'd start a bug out bike thread. http://stealthsurvival.blogspot.com/2012/02/spokes-for-survival-bug-out-bike.html?m=1 http://www.bugoutsurvival.com/2013/03/bug-out-bikes.html?m=1 http://m.instructables.com/id/Bug-Out-Bike-Apocalypse-Bicycle/

Bug out Bike http://www.bugoutsurvival.com/2013/03/bug-out-bikes.html?m=1

Or a bicycle.

Sounds like it's going to be a great long range gun!  Dolomite was talking about how easy it was to build a Savage.  I might have to look into this. 

I had a SS Loaded edition.  Great pistol.  Traded for an AR.  Now I have a GI with adjustable sights.  Hard to beat a Springer!

Dang it robtattoo, don't leave us hangin'! What is this thing? We want details, right down to the crapper scope! :D And how does it shoot? This wasn't the one that you got the jeep with was it? :)