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Weapons and such are nice, but food and water are the basis for all survival. That must be the big Number one most important thing. Not only must you have both, but you must have the means to keep both in steady supply, throughout a crisis. After that, some sort of shelter is the next most important thing. Shelter provides protection from the elements, animals, and if possible from other men. Health, medicine and first aid come next. Cleanliness is next to godliness. Disease and infections will kill you faster than just about anything. Transportation is pretty important too, for hunting, gathering and scavenging. Something we haven't really talked about is scavenging. Weapons are probably about last on the least. While on weapons, as far as hunting goes, has anyone thought of going primative. In other words using bows and arrows, spears and such. Does anyone know how to make such weapons? Might be a good trick to learn and to use. Just a thought.

Sun, where did you find that beauty at?

That's not good! I have an older Stoeger Condor that is a great shooter! I hope this is a not a reoccuring problem. It was something I had my eye on. Not that I could afford it at the moment.

Alex Jones is not a good source. He's just out to make a buck and he'll say anything to do it. I heard him make the 9/11 comment on a late night radio show I listen to on occasion. He lost all credibility right then.

Hard to beat the 870. Mossberg is a very close second.

Ah Jody! The nemesis of all soldiers everywhere. Well in this case it's Poak! Have a safe and uneventful plane ride back! And if Poak's at your house when you get there, give him some of this!

My son has an old Marlin Bolt that I would put against any other plinker out there. Marlin makes good rifles IMHO. Don't get me wrong though. So does Ruger. But that extra $100 you will pay for it would purchase just about all the .22 ammo you'd ever care to shoot.

Thanks, but no thanks. Have a friend of mine that actually lives in your neck of the woods, that flipped one. Lucky for him he landed between two large rocks and the quad ended up on the rocks above him. He was up at Windrock at the time. I don't mess with them. My lucks not that good. If your selling everything off for hookers and blow, I'd move to another city first. The pictures I've seen of the hookers in this town leave much to be desired.

Sounds like a plan, Mike. Huh, could you forward me your address, so I can put you on my map. I'll want to come by and pick up your stuff after wards.

Nice! How does it shoot?

I agree with that mostly OS. But I think a lot of the bad customers would try to get out along with a lot of the smart ones. The dumb ones that drink the party koolaid would be the ones that end up dieing in place. Smart and bad could actually be a bad combo. Smart and bad could mean Very Evil. It would not be a fun place to live in.

Dang! I'm jealous! Great deal!

I've known several people that have owned them and never spoke badly of them. I'd love to have one myself with a 4" barrel.

With all that weaponry and ammo, where did you put your lunch?

Zombies is what they made the Remy 870 for! Chug, CHINK, BOOM!

To0 many large metropolitan areas in the North East to make any place there viable for survival. Canada could be an option except a large part of the Canadian population leaves in the east too. Western Canada would be better to go to. Unfortunately Canada isn't very friendly to our kind. They don't like firearms there.

The problem with East Tennessee is there are a lot people that live here. Of the three Grand Divisions of the state, East Tennessee has the largest population. The other thing about East Tennessee is you have a large chunk of land that is mountainous and it's much harder to live comfortably there. Therefore the population centers around the Tennessee Valley. Places not to be would be California, Eastern Texas, the Northeast, the Eastern Seaboard from Florida to Maine, the Mid-West and Georgia. If we are talking about a REAL disaster, any large city is going to become a death zone real quick. Katrina proved that. Imagine a Katrina type disaster hitting the whole country. The power grid goes down. Running water is cut off after the backup generators start to fail. The Government will not be able to handle it and will breakdown fairly quickly. People will start to loot, stealing everything they can. Medicines will become hard to get. People that need certain medicines to survive will die (Insulin come to mind). Almost overnight food supplies will diminish and then vanish all together in the cities. People are going to start moving out of those cities as soon as food becomes unavailable. They will move along the paths of least resistance (Think the interstate system). They will move along those routes first. Smaller cities and towns along Interstates will become the next death zones as food dwindles there as well because of refugees. There will be mass starvation everywhere. People will begin fighting. If you want to truly be safe your best bet is to move where there are not a lot of people and there is no easy access from the major urban population centers. In my mind the best place to survive would be somewhere where there are not a lot of people that you are potentially having to fight for resources. With that in mind, I'd think Alaska, New Mexico, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, North and South Dakota and the upper peninsula of Michigan would be the places you probably would want to be. I'm not sure we'd be all that safe in Tennessee. We have four large metropolitan centers here, Memphis, Nashville, Chattanooga and Knoxville. Where are all those people going to go when it gets bad? right out into the country. Not sure how friendly those of us in the south, are going to be to refugees when we probably will need everything we have just to feed our own families. I think it would get ugly real quick.

I wouldn't mind owning a Blackhawk in 30 carbine. I think that'd make a great rifle/pistol combo!

As long as you have a comfortable holster that's concealable, I don't see a problem with it.

I kinda got my eye on a Czech made Vz 58. Anyone know anything about them?

That's an incredible idea GunTroll! Nice looking Snake combo too wjh!

Freakin' n ice looking Ruger!!!

I need to get one of those conversion cylinders for my Pietta 1858. I think that would be pretty cool to have!!!

I had two of them. One was a 4" barrel. It had the .22 Mag cylinder with it. But it was stolen along with a Norinco .45 ACP and a Browning Hi-Power and a small security cabinet. The one I have now was at my dad's house along with the Mk II. I have both with me now. It has a 51/2" barrel. I saw one with both cylinders and the box at J. Floyd's in Sevierville about a year ago. They wanted $650 for it. I thought it was a pretty good price. I just didn't have the money. Story of my life!

I'd look for a Ruger Single Six. Well actually, you should look for a Ruger Single Six. I colt a Colt Peacemaker that dearly love. So does my son. That is one tagged to keep and pass down to him when he gets old enough. On second thought, maybe I should look for Ruger Security Six... You also can't go wrong with a Ruger Mark II or III, though it won't shoot different calibers. Still they are great pistols for the money. I have a bull barrel that is as accurate as I am.