GhostDog

No scores??

No scores? That's just adding insult to injury!

No, they don't... unless you're suggesting that they just make things up. Even small towns with speed traps aren't generally considered to be high crime areas. If you check in a poor non-minority community, you may also find an anti-police sentiment. Gov't can't fix that. If you are from suburbia and you know better then why use inaccurate buzz words, to make a point? It's human nature to justify/shift blame for our own short-comings. Politicians and other exploiters make a living off of it. This will never change until we all wake up. Demographics be damned!   I still agree with you about the peaceful protests though.

tnguy makes a good point about police presence and bad cops. That makes perfect sense. Even if only 1% (made up number, I don't even have a guess at an accurate %) of cops are bad, that 1% will show itself where there is more police activity regardless of the demographics of the area.

btq: Police presence does not produce high crime areas. Nor is all of suburbia "white". But I find it interesting that you believe that.

People allowing themselves to be manipulated by way of their emotions is how we end up with people in city hall who need to be protested against. You say the higher number of LE contacts is due to profiling. You might want to also look at the amount of crime in the areas you point out. If you were part of that demographic and were consistently victimized in your own neighborhood, you might also see things differently. Most times other people in the same demographic are the biggest losers. It doesn't matter what the demographic is. If you look at a city with few or no minorities, I would guess you would see more LE contacts in the high crime areas.                                       I have seen this too many times myself: everyone wants "something done" about drugs, but no one wants their sister's kid to go to jail. It doesn't work like that. That's why I say that the people are broken, not the system. I am not making excuses for LE. When bad cops are not dealt with, the effect is the same as when criminals are allowed to walk. It's bad for everyone. I agree with you about the peaceful protests. That is how it should be in this country. What I'm cautioning against is letting the usual suspects turn this into another "racial" problem. If we allow that, nothing will change, the same people will profit from it, and we will ALL (red, yellow, black, and white) lose in the end... except for the politicians selling that crap.

btq; Spare me the "minorities in big cities" BS. The same thing happens outside the big cities and to people who are not minorities. If there were as many racists in this country as some would have us believe, we'd all be dead by now. What we have isn't racism, it's elitism and "theftism". Until such time as people realize that many of these politicians do not represent them (regardless of what they look like or what they say at election time) nothing is going to change for ANYONE. Look at the gov't in Baltimore... how can it be racism? Look at the police department and it's leadership... same question. The system isn't broken, the people are. We get the gov't we deserve; ALL of us. As to the latest reports... it neither excuses the police, nor convicts them. It's just another piece of the puzzle. The best advice today is the same it was 3 days ago... wait and see what the investigation turns up. Hopefully it will be the truth, regardless of who is at fault. Disclaimer: this post written by a retired cop.

See you there. Al

There are good cops and bad cops: the good far outnumber the bad. The worst thing for the good ones is when the bad ones aren't disciplined/fired when they should be (not unlike criminals who aren't punished). How many times do we see this: a criminal or cop does something horrible and then it comes out that the criminal should have already been in prison but wasn't or the cop should have been fired long ago but wasn't? It's the same thing. As to the Baltimore situation... best to wait for what actually happened rather than taking sides (this might save you from looking stupid later). Was the man injured before or after going into the paddy wagon? Either way, it's the responsibility of the police dept, but it makes a big difference to the cops who made the arrest.

Great match! Thanks to Michael and Terry.

Thanks! See you next week.

No scores??

Deadly force is deadly force. If an officer is justified to shoot, then hitting w/ a car or flashlight to the head is also OK.

Great, see you there. Al

Still shooting tonight, right?

Can you get this up on the orsa idpa website? Not everyone "does" facebook.

Money well spent! It was a great day of training. Randy is a great instructor and the information was just the kind of thing I was looking for. It is not the typical square range shooting. Now I'm just waiting for a follow-on class in the area (0-5ft or close range gun fighting). Thanks to Randy and GTG for hosting. Al

Whoops! 1 more with me (total of 3).

Count me in (me plus 1//total of 2).

Randy, Please let us know if it becomes necessary to sign up in advance. I'll try to be there. Al

I'm in, looking forward to it. It should be a good match and for a good cause.

Has anybody seen the scores yet?

It's not just April. September is just as bad. People always talk about how folks act when the moon is full, but I think it has more to do with the weather changing. The first warm weather in Spring and the first cool weather in Fall are always the worst. Don't believe me?... Do some checking and see what you think then.

I glad no one has video of some of my screwups, or you might decide you don't want to shoot w/ me!

Just little old me (shooting, that is. My wife is coming with me, we're making it into a vacation). I'll be looking for you guys. Al