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Funny that you posted this, I just order over the weekend 1,000 rounds of Federal from the same source.  Didn't need it, but I was really thinking now is the time to buy as well.  I am still flushed with other ammo, and I have large quantities of reloading supplies too.  I think I am shifting more away from hard assets to expendable assets.  Reading survival books in a what if SHTF event is starting to shift my thinking.

In case any one needs a reminder:   http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transcript.html   IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776. The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world. He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good. He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them. He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only. He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures. He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people. He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within. He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands. He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers. He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries. He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance. He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures. He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power. He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation: For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us: For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States: For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world: For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent: For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury: For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies: For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments: For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever. He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us. He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people. He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation. He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands. He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions. In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people. Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends. We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.     The 56 signatures on the Declaration appear in the positions indicated: Column 1 Georgia:    Button Gwinnett    Lyman Hall    George Walton Column 2 North Carolina:    William Hooper    Joseph Hewes    John Penn South Carolina:    Edward Rutledge    Thomas Heyward, Jr.    Thomas Lynch, Jr.    Arthur Middleton Column 3 Massachusetts: John Hancock Maryland: Samuel Chase William Paca Thomas Stone Charles Carroll of Carrollton Virginia: George Wythe Richard Henry Lee Thomas Jefferson Benjamin Harrison Thomas Nelson, Jr. Francis Lightfoot Lee Carter Braxton Column 4 Pennsylvania:    Robert Morris    Benjamin Rush    Benjamin Franklin    John Morton    George Clymer    James Smith    George Taylor    James Wilson    George Ross Delaware:    Caesar Rodney    George Read    Thomas McKean Column 5 New York:    William Floyd    Philip Livingston    Francis Lewis    Lewis Morris New Jersey:    Richard Stockton    John Witherspoon    Francis Hopkinson    John Hart    Abraham Clark Column 6 New Hampshire:    Josiah Bartlett    William Whipple Massachusetts:    Samuel Adams    John Adams    Robert Treat Paine    Elbridge Gerry Rhode Island:    Stephen Hopkins    William Ellery Connecticut:    Roger Sherman    Samuel Huntington    William Williams    Oliver Wolcott New Hampshire:    Matthew Thornton

Same here, everyone have a good 4th (hope you stay dry).

Nice shot..........Some reason my anti virus software went nuts when I opened this post. :panic:

I don't want to see posts like this, the Valor is on my short list.  I want one myself.

If we are talking new guns, I am not driving anywhere other than my local FFL.  I stopped buying new guns from stocking dealers years ago, I just surf the net until I find the "best" deal, and have it shipped to my local FFL.   If its a non-unicorn used discontinued gun that I must have, I would reasonably drive up to 2 hours maybe more.  The actual deal is not necessarily the driver of the decision.   If its a unicorn of a gun, and the seller will not ship it to my FFL guy, then well, road trip.

My safe is at capacity, and I have no choice but to have 3 groups of guns:  Guns that are keep sakes, that don't get shot often, those are in the rear.  The ones that get shot in a seasonally speaking manner, those are in the middle, and of course the go to guns and guns that I shoot regular they are in the front.  I have consider gadgets and gizmos for my safe, but in reality short of gun room, my thinking is just another much bigger safe in addition to the one that I already have.

After reading One Second After, its clear to me now:  Water, Food, Medicine, Water, Food, Medicine, Water, Food, Medicine............I have everything else to stay at my place.  If I had to relocated:  Water, Food, Medicine.........

Great idea, so is a dime allowing you stop your 1 1/2 ton vehicle on a dime?  And without your ten cents, you will not be able to stop?  :rofl:

I must live under a rock, I never do get any updates. But I only used a Desktop PC too and windows 7. Maybe things get updated when I am away.   Kinda of reminds me something that Dad taught me about camping, when going camping as a kid, I use to prepare for everything and bring everything, he said son the more you take, the more you have to bring back, and more you have to lose and more you have to contend with.  Well in a weird way I kinda make a comparison, I don't do apps, I don't do much of anything, other that was said earlier Youtube, TGO, and I surf the news.  Nothing more really.  Though I have a smartphone, I just don't use much more than phone calls, texts, and occasional look at the weather.

So is the media considered the mountain?  Some day the mountain might get em, but the law never will?

We have made FoxNews:   http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/02/train-carrying-toxic-gas-derails-in-tennessee-prompting-evacuations/?intcmp=latestnews

I thought I read somewhere the signs do not have to come down. 

Given this was my only choice, the SKS.  Great proven rifle in all elements.  Not sure the 9mm carbine has been proven.  However, the availability of ammo could be the main driver of decision.  Flip a coin. :shrug:

Would you have been prepared for this 24 to 48 hour mandatory evacuation that is unfolding now?  Happened wee early hours this morning, train derailment with toxic chemicals and flames, about 15 miles Southwest of Knoxville:   http://www.wbir.com/story/news/2015/07/02/mandatory-evacuation-underway-following-blount-county--train-fire/29605729/   Authorities said at least 5,000 people are under a mandatory evacuation Thursday morning following a train fire in Blount County. According to a Blount Memorial Hospital spokesperson, 12 emergency responders are supposed to be decontaminated. Around midnight a train fire was reported near Old Mt. Tabor Road, which is located off Highway 321, just west of the Foothills Mall. The CSX train was carrying Acrylonitrile, which is a flammable and poisonous liquid. Mandatory evacuations of a nearby apartment complex started around 12:30 a.m. and it includes a two mile radius. The Red Cross is setting up a shelter at Heritage High School in Maryville for those who do not have a place to stay while the evacuations are in effect. Authorities said evacuees cannot bring pets to the Red Cross shelter at Heritage High School. Animals can be dropped off at the Blount County Animal Shelter at 233 Curie Avenue in Maryville. According to Don Stallions, the Director of General Services, people cannot stay at the shelter. The Blount County Animal Shelter will feed and take care of pets. We are told by the Blount County Sheriff's Department that these evacuations may be in effect for 24 to 48 hours. The Alcoa Walmart located at 1030 Hunters CrossingMandatory evacuation is required for the following areas:   Those along Middlesettlements Road are being evacuated to state Highway 129 Denso Manufacturing Ashley Apartments Stone Tree Apartments Denso Manufacturing employees in Maryville will not report to work Thursday morning due to train derailment evacuations. According to the EPA's web site, Acrylonitrile is primarily used in the manufacture of acrylic and modacrylic fibers. It known to cause mucous membrane irritation, headaches, dizziness, and nausea. We do have a crew on the scene and will continue to update this story throughout Thursday morning.

I too have experience with my grandmother who suffered from both dementia and Alzheimer.  In the end no choice but to place her in a nursing home.  My only comfort, she had no concept of time.  Once she told me she was tired of this hospital and wanted to go home.  I asked her how long she had been there, she said good grief no more than 2 days, in reality she had been there for 9 mos.    I deeply feel for anyone who is a care taker of their parent or grandparents, and thankfully you have the love to do so. 

The week Rosco passed away, I bought the complete DVD set.  Glad I did.  I can watch the general lee and daisy dukes over, and over, and over.  My kids love it.  We watch it all of the time.

Trouble with the law........

My brother had a well dug 5 years ago, I remember somewhere close to $5K. 

I still have several guns from a break in from the mid 90s out there somewhere.  Also know a couple have been recovered, but the value of those recovered guns and the red tape is not worth my time.  Good luck.   Also, once bought a gun at pawn shop in the mid 90s, had it for sale in my gun shop, original owner found it, called the police, I had a receipt, gave them the gun, police gave me the paperwork to go back to the pawn shop.  Found out the pawn shop had bought the gun the same day I bought it, even though they were required to hold the gun X number of days and inform their city police dept. of the s/n, none of which happened.  Got my money back.  Not all pawn shops play by the rules, some/most do.   My guess, next gun show in your area it will be sold outside the building or in the parking lot.  Great deal for a unsuspecting buyer. 

I'm a diesel guy myself.  It will take a lot for me to turn back to gas.  My 7,000+ lb sled still gets around ~18mpg, and the specs are 275hp @ 2800 rpm and 525 lb-ft @ 1600rpm.  I have pulled some heavy weight on the tongue, and I am still just amazed at the power, stability, and braking this machine has, and just a very minor drop in MPG.  She is little old, 2002 F250 crew cab, but she is just fine.  According to research, these are 500K mile engines, and I have only 140K one owner, so I guess I have a long way to go till its EOF.  BTW, of the other trucks on the road that Raptor does catch my eye on looks every now then like some young women do, but trade my rolling coal maker, no way, trade my wife for one of those young women  :waiting: .............no way!

Talk about a top of the line truck gun.   These P228 w/o rails are rare anymore, I have a very nice one, but I could own 2, 3, 4......... more.

Talking spatula and the best homemade Fathers Day cards that a 11 year old, 9 year old, and a 6 year old could make!  The 2 year old just gave me a hug.  We ate out twice today, I paid both times!  Would not trade it for the world!

I searched and did not find.  Hope someone is needing a cool job................   http://www.beretta.com/en-us/careers/manufacturing/   Beretta “Hiring Event” at Volunteer State Community College Press Release - Gallatin, Tennessee, June 11, 2015 – Beretta USA will conduct a “Hiring Event” on Thursday, July 9, 2015 at Volunteer State Community College located at 1480 Nashville Pike in Gallatin. Job seekers interested in working for Beretta are encouraged to attend one of the four sessions that are scheduled for 8:00am, 10:00am, 4:00pm and 6:00pm in Noble C. Caudill Hall on the Campus of Volunteer State Community College to learn more about Beretta’s company culture and how to apply for jobs. To register for this free event, please visit www.workforceessentials.com/event/ Beretta USA’s “Hiring Event” will include a presentation on these topics: • Pay & Benefits • Job Descriptions & Video • Hiring Timelines • Beretta Culture • Application Process Applications for the jobs listed below are available at all area Tennessee Career Centers and at www.workforceessentials.com  and http://www.jobs4tn.gov • Assemblers/Packagers • Machine Operators • Deburrers • Buffer/Polishers • Material Handlers Please bring COMPLETED JOB APPLICATIONS  to the “Hiring Event”. Interviews will be conducted during the months of August and September. Interested candidates are asked to bring their resume and completed job application with them to the “Hiring Event”.  Additionally, the Tennessee Department of Labor and Workforce Development’s Career Coach will be on hand to assist job seekers that are interested in applying for a position with Beretta USA. The Career Coach has computers, copy and fax machines available to job seekers. The computers aboard the Career Coach have Internet access and are equipped with Microsoft Office software.  Job seekers can also monitor open Beretta positions through the Tennessee Career Center website at https://www.jobs4tn.gov/.  Job seekers can look at the jobs on the Career Coach, at the Tennessee Career Center, or at home. Job Applications are available at all area Tennessee Career Centers and at www.workforceessentials.com and www.jobs4tn.gov Please email Charlie Koon at ckoon@workforceessentials.com with any questions. Please bring COMPLETED JOB APPLICATIONS  to the “Hiring Event”.  Interviews will be conducted during the months of August and September.  . 

Since there are some law enforcement folks here and others with great opinions, I have a question about should I have or should I have let it go type question.   Yesterday afternoon while traveling on the interstate humming alone at around 70 mph on a 3 lane portion, traffic is heavy, the vehicle in front of me suddenly without warning made evasive lane changes due to large bundles of rolled insulation that had just fallen off a truck in front of her.  The evasive lane change was too much and she lost control, swerved far right, far left, and then over corrected and went head on into the guardrail on the right.  I ended up hitting the bundle of insulation on the interstate, no damage, but the other car that wrecked had a mother and two daughters (maybe 11 yrs and maybe 6 yrs old, not sure).  As it turns out, they were okay, maybe shaken up pretty good.  The car was destroyed, heavy front end damage.  The impact caused the car to come to a rest in the middle lane.  The truck that dropped the insulation never stopped.   Here is the question, I witnessed in the rear view mirror as I was coming to stop to aide and assist, the 11 yr old girl suddenly dart from the car and run to the guardrail upon immediate coming to a stop of the wrecked car, I thought I saw her throw something over the guard rail.  I am not sure the car had even come to a complete stop either.  Was this worth mentioning to the arriving officer and does it matter?   As we waited on the officer, I checked on my family who was in our car just 50 feet or more from the wreck.  My wife asked me did that girl throw something, she had seen it too.  I went back to look, but did not see anything other than common trash along the area where I thought I saw her throw something.  When the officer arrived, which seemed like only a just a few minutes, he of course asked if they were hurt, and then he came to me see what I had seen.  As I explained how the wreck occurred, he took my name and number, and he said that I was free to go, but I did mention to him seperately after he said that I was free to go what I witnessed about the girl darting from the car.  He said, it was weird wasn't it.  I say yea it was weird, and told me again I was free to go.  Not sure if that mattered to the officer, the incident, or that was enough info for him to act.  I will probably never know what happened, doesn't matter, but why did the girl dart.