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That line up looked different when I posted on my screen, here is a picture: [URL=http://s963.photobucket.com/user/runco0318/media/daytona%20500%2002212016_zpswo1ahkal.jpg.html][/URL]

To all of you fans, today is the Daytona 500 at 1pm on Fox, 12noon for you western TN folk.  I feel like I have to remind people, because I do think the sport may be loosing its edge it once had.  I do follow the sport through out the year, but not like I use too.  I work with a recent college graduates that are into cars, but really don't care about NASCAR and have no affection.  Did you know its 15 years this past week that Senior Dale Earnhardt left us.  To me the sport just has not been the same.    BTW keep the Danica comments to a minimum you shallow fair weather fans!  ;)   Anywho here is some information:   http://www.nascar.com/en_us/sprint-cup-series.html   Starting lineup     Pos. Car Driver Team 1. 24 Chase Elliott Hendrick Motorsports 2. 20 Matt Kenseth Joe Gibbs Racing 3. 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Hendrick Motorsports 4. 18 Kyle Busch Joe Gibbs Racing 5. 22 Joey Logano Team Penske 6. 1 Jamie McMurray Chip Ganassi Racing 7. 21 Ryan Blaney Wood Brothers Racing 8. 41 Kurt Busch Stewart-Haas Racing 9. 4 Kevin Harvick Stewart-Haas Racing 10. 19 Carl Edwards Joe Gibbs Racing 11. 11 Denny Hamlin Joe Gibbs Racing 12. 95 Ty Dillon Circle Sport-Leavine Family Racing 13. 5 Kasey Kahne Hendrick Motorsports 14. 42 Kyle Larson Chip Ganassi Racing 15. 16 Greg Biffle Roush Fenway Racing 16. 10 Danica Patrick Stewart-Haas Racing 17. 34 Chris Buescher Front Row Motorsports 18. 14 Brian Vickers Stewart-Haas Racing 19. 17 Ricky Stenhouse Jr. Roush Fenway Racing 20. 93 Matt DiBenedetto BK Racing 21. 3 Austin Dillon Richard Childress Racing 22. 46 Michael Annett HScott Motorsports 23. 6 Trevor Bayne Roush Fenway Racing 24. 38 Landon Cassill Front Row Motorsports 25. 2 Brad Keselowski Team Penske 26. 48 Jimmie Johnson Hendrick Motorsports 27. 7 Regan Smith Tommy Baldwin Racing 28. 78 Martin Truex Jr. Furniture Row Racing 29. 23 David Ragan BK Racing 30. 47 AJ Allmendinger JTG Daugherty Racing 31. 15 Clint Bowyer HScott Motorsports 32. 13 Casey Mears Germain Racing 33. 32 Bobby Labonte Go Green Racing 34. 43 Aric Almirola Richard Petty Motorsports 35. 44 Brian Scott Richard Petty Motorsports 36. 83 Michael Waltrip BK Racing 37. 27 Paul Menard Richard Childress Racing 38. 31 Ryan Newman Richard Childress Racing 39. 59 Michael McDowell Circle Sport-Leavine Family Racing 40. 26 Robert Richardson Jr. BK Racing

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I think the Fox News story is updated with the shooters name.  I admit I read quickly through the story looking for a Muslim name as the shooter, but it wasn't his name was Jason Dalton.  So for a moment I was admittedly profiling the shooter.  Shame on me.

I may have live a sheltered life, but the public shooting ranges or the ones people pay to shoot, I have only been to a couple, and those when I went it was very slow maybe only me or one other at the range.  I have never experienced crazy unsafe practices.  Now with that said, I could only imagine the horrors of unsafe practices with lots of people on line.  I doubt I will ever go to one of those ranges since I have my own place to shoot.

Many people on Gunbroker has clean 45ACP once fired brass for about $0.049 per piece, that's over half of the cost you listed at $0.12 per piece.  I have turned to Gunbroker many times for brass, its cheaper at times than what I can find around here.  This link is for 1,000 piece link on GB, you might want to expand the search to bigger/smaller lots.     http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=45acp+brass+1000

I am not eligible, but thanks for the heads-up. 

A 43 has been on my radar since the announcement of the 42.  However, I love a bargain and have already let a few used ones go in the low $400 range before I can pull the trigger (no pun intended).  The best new deal I routinely find OTD TICS included for about $480-$490, but I would like to get much lower than that for a new one.

How many did you make?

First time reading through this thread.  Wow!   I admit I got it wrong, I paid for my college using credit cards, but managed to pay it off in full before graduation by working my tail off at jobs.  Did I miss something?  Oh by the way, I had to choose a college that met my wallet criteria at the time, ETSU.  Would have liked to went to UT, but a certain girl I chased and lower tuition at ETSU over-ruled UT.  Sorry I didn't follow the trend.    But seriously, I don't know why anyone would be in the hole so far that they can't breath when they graduate.  I just don't get that.  Don't sound like they are educated to me.  As far as the moral and legal thing, everyone gets that, they just choose to ignore, because they can and society is allowing it.  The decay of our society is in free fall.

Very good points by 10-ring.  I would ad if you have children, inform them not to brag that daddy has machine guns everywhere.  I had to coach my 6 year old recently.  One of his 1st grade buddies asked me about it.  Geeze.................

Go to post #4 in this link, and watch the video.  Great information on gun safes.  This was a eye opener for me.   http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/91391-gun-safes-what-to-look-for/?hl=%2Bgun+%2Bsafe+%2Bvideo#entry1313168

The storms of April 27, 2011 here in East Tennessee sure messed with my head.  The house we live now has a basement, and crawl space below ground.  There was some motivation to purchase this house due to 2011.  My old house had nothing for protection.  I like some of the garage shelters, if I still lived there, I would have done something similar. 

I am only saying that I work hard for my money, and I am a very good steward of my money.   That is all, nothing more or nothing less.   I know its difficult for local businesses to compete against the world with the invent of consumer shopping on the internet, but this is not my row to hoe, I just take advantage of it since it allows me to have more cash in my pocket, and more cash in my pocket allows me to buy more things.  I am the consumer, and unless I win the lottery and/or I am flushed with so much disposable income from various sources of income from investments, and other revenue sources, in my view and smarts, I have no choice but to be tight and shop smart, isn't that a display of good stewardship?     Seriously, it always bugs me why don't the small biz sympathizers just walk into a mom & pop shop and give cash freely (donation) with nothing in return.  That surely would help their business model.

Work to hard for my dough, try not to give it away to others, and the government doesn't get a 0% interest loan off of me either, rather pay in than get a check.  So by choice I buy from the retailer with the lowest cost which usually means a internet business and locally someone that has the lowest transfer fee.  Lowest cost is the best customer service any retailer can give to its customer, anything else is sales blah, blah, blah.  

Before this posting fades away into the doldrums of all short lived postings, have you ever been to an acution that had a opening prayer, and a pledge allegiance to the flag?  This one did.  The local Sheriff is up for election this year (Sheriff Tommy Jones).  He welcomed everyone for attending, and made announcement his dept was very glad he could bring about this auction.  Very proud we live in a land where we do have freedom, and can exercise our right as citizens to purchase and own firearms.  Finally, he said he was glad he had the opporutunity to make available these guns to the people.    BTW, I met the Sheriff for the first time that morning.  I asked him to tell me why I should vote for him, and for the next 5 minutes he did a very good job explaining while others waiting on him for something.  He did leave me with a impression to be worthy of my vote.  He also told me he still had about has many firearms yet to be auctioned, but those were not cleared to be turned loose.    Since I had the Sheriff's ear, the only complaint I had about the auction:  Wipe down those rusty guns with oil every now and then.  Your evidence locker must be in a flooded basement or something.  He smiled and said a few were.  One thing I forgot to ask, could he sign a future form 4 for me.  :)

Make your business model comparable to what I can buy off the internet.  You might have an advantage about haz fees, and carry powders that are hard to find.    Now of you prey upon the misinformed, so be it.  But for us that research and scour the net for deals, and you want to snare customers like us, just be comparable to what we find.  You will have to have a niche.   

I struggled with this same debate over the holidays, and mother-in-law didn't help by giving me a Home Depot gift card.   I ended up going with a top rated Klien model in the $50-$100 range.  For my purpose, this will work. 

One suggestion I didn't see, sell your guns at half value, and let me have first dibs. 

I have followed the Dave Ramsey financial model since the early 1990s.  Not rich, but we are sure not broke either, and I do have some disposable income for my hobby.  No short term debt, no auto debt, and no mortgage debt first!  Then invest, invest away.  Personal wealth is best measured without any IOU!    Don't give in to impatience, and pass on the BMW until all things are paid for. 

The odor thing is just apart of it.  Just like when I have to replace a toilet or two, or change a diaper, or be close to the wife doing actual child birth.  Its one of those things that is not apart of the training, but you will experience it. 

If this is your only transportation, answer is easy go to a mechanic.  Now with that said, if you have other transportation, and time on your side, and you enjoy learning new stuff, you can do it yourself.    When I was younger and into cars and trucks, I played a lot with changing out the differentials.  For drag racing purposes and for big tires on trucks, I was always changing out ring and pinions, and changing differentials with mini spools, lockers, limited sip, etc.  This is not a simple part swap.  You do have to know what you are doing, and you do have to have some special measuring tools and know how to read the lash, and you do need bearing pullers and a shop press.  I didn't have Youtube back then, but I did have someone who taught me this and it became fun, but I have probably lost with older age 80% of it, since I have not done this in 25 years.   Once you have master the knowledge, its simple.   For 30 years I did all of my mechanic work myself, mainly due to a trust factor, money factor, and a desire to do it myself.  As I slide into old man territory, the money and desire to do it myself is fading, but the trust thing is still big.  Good luck in finding a good mechanic for this type of job.

I believe it went for $550 if I remember correctly.  I may have wrote it down, and the paper is in the truck.

So you were there, did you agree with my assessment!  If you were there, were you able to get a chair or did you have to stand the whole time.

Update post auction report.    Well, as you figured it was a mad house.  I estimate 1000+ people there if not more.  I did bid on several items that I went after, but none came home with me.  There were a few deals, but 90% were no where close to deals.  My assessment: If the actual value of the gun was <$300, it went about 2-3x its value. If the actual value of the gun was between $300 to $600, it went for what was worth. If the actual value was greater than $600, there were deals to be found.   I seen hoards of 25 autos (Lorcins, Davis, etc.) go close to $200+10%+$20. Seen many North America Arms 22 fetch $250+ I seen many NEF 20, 12, etc. go for $175+ I seen many Marlins, Glenfileds, etc. 22LR fetch +$200   I seen many S&W 38 and 357 fetch in the $400-$600 range. I seen a couple of Ruger Blackhawks fetch $475+   Deals that I witnessed I seen a MAK90 that was mis-labeld as just a 7.62 rifle in great shape fetch $550.  I am not a fan of the AK platform, and I don't flip guns. I seen several SKS fetch ~$300 I seen (which I should have bought) a Colt 1911 I think with the s/n a 1918 mfg fetch $575.  What spooked me, but I still kick myself for not buying, it had a threaded barrel with a screwed on compensator, it had pearl grips (no biggy), and I suspect it had a trigger job.  The bluing was about 50%, and more on the white side, but if looked up the s/n right, then it indeed was 1918 per Colt's s/n website.  I seen a Winchester M1 Carbine with a broke stock, duct tape, and rusty barrel fetch $775+   If there are any gun dealers wandering about their business model, let me tell you, go to auction model.  Open say one day every other month, advertise gun auction to the general public, auction the guns, add 10% premium after the auction + $20 processing fee (less $10 for the TICS), and you will make serious money with less overhead!  I swear auctions bring out the crazies of the crazies when it comes to guns.