['transfering' permit from another state to TN]

It's an old thread, but it had just the info I was looking for. Thanks for the link!

Looks like even though you can carry in TN with a recognized permit from another state, you still have to complete all requirements before getting a TN permit. No reciprocity.

[Looking for a mid-size 9mm]

She's going to definitely pick her own; I was just looking for ideas to start her out. Looks like most suggestions are for the Glock 19 or SA XD9, but I'll also look at the S&W M&P9. Now I've got to find used one I can borrow/rent so she can put some rounds through it.

Back to the requirements. She didn't actually complain about the kick of the PPS, she just couldn't shoot it straight. Subconsciously she was pre-compensating for the kick which threw her aim way off. She shot the Ruger P98 much better, but it's a brick of a gun, and the fact that my brother probably hasn't cleaned it since he bought it didn't help the action much. So I'm thinking a gun with a slightly longer grip for better leverage (eliminates the G26), a slightly fatter grip to spread the impact out a little, but still a light-weight polymer frame is exactly what she needs. She won't be carrying this on her person; it'll be a range and car gun (it's legal to car-carry in Mississippi). And I'll get my PPS back, hopefully about the time my new Supertuck arrives.

Thanks for the suggestions/reassurance that I was on the right track!

[Looking for a mid-size 9mm]

[EDIT: The title should read "Looking for a mid-size 9mm recommendation" - this isn't a WTB post]

I recently purchased a Walther PPS 9mm. I bought it mainly for myself, and I absolutely love it, but a secondary goal was to loan it to my girlfriend who currently only has a S&M .22 target pistol (I don't know the model). She's dead-on with the .22, but unfortunately she can't shoot the 9mm very well at all. She's jerking the trigger, and I can see her pushing the gun forward and down to pre-compensate for the kick just as she fires. Basically it kicks too much and she over compensates.

Other than simply practicing more, is there an exercise she can work with to help counteract this?

The next option is to get her a different gun so I can get my PPS back, preferably sticking with a 9mm for ammunition compatibility (we practice with WWB-FMJ). She shot my brother's Ruger P98 last weekend and hated it. It's too big and heavy. So maybe something in between the two... larger and heavier than the single-stack PPS to give her more confidence with the grip and more weight to soak up recoil, but smaller and lighter than the P98. I was thinking a Springfield XD9 or a Glock 19, but I'll have to get her up here for a visit at the same time I can find one to shoot.

If that doesn't work, I may try her on a different caliber, maybe a .380.

[Don't Talk to the Cops?]

Why are you telling Patrick youre sorry for it being too far away? Whatever county you shoot someone in is where you will be tried, and he has gone out on a limb and offered to at least counsel you if you should happen to be involved in a SD shooting. I think that's admirable. I'm sure it would be up to him whether he wanted to take your case. Hell, Ive needed a lawyer a couple times and called a family lawyer who turned it down, so to have someone who is gun pro willing to at least counsel you is a plus in my book. I already put his info in my phone under Shooting! Thanks Patrick

I agree that the name and number of a "pro gun" lawyer is a desirable thing to have, which is why I asked for one. I do appreciate Mr. Stegall's offer of council (I'll echo, Thanks Patrick!), and I saved his firm's information for future use. However, I live several hundred miles from Memphis and haven't been there in many years. I'd like to at least contact any potential lawyer ahead of time instead just cold-calling one after blood has been shed.

[Don't Talk to the Cops?]

Pretty much what my HCP instructor said, and he's a cop (or maybe retired... I wasn't clear on that). He also said that the decision to shoot should be made after answering the question of whether what you're defending is worth selling everything you own to cover legal fees for the resulting civil lawsuit. Even the worst meth-addicted bad guy may have a grieving mother/wife/brother who may decide that it'll take a few hundred thousand dollars to end their anguish.

That being said, how would I go about getting the names of a few lawyers in the Chattanooga area who are pro-carry? Sorry, Mr. Stegall, Memphis is too far away.

[Teacher carry of a handgun in a car parked on school property?]

Thanks for the answer. I'm not worried about a random search, or even bomb-sniffing dogs. The more likely scenario is that my ex-wife gets pissed at me for some reason and reports me, or my son tells a friend or teacher.

But because of the gray area, I think I'll just ask. I'm friends with our schools parent-teacher coordinator, so the next time I see her I'll try to get an official position.

[Teacher carry of a handgun in a car parked on school property?]

Alright... asking for a summary here. I just got my HCP. I don't see the need to carry on my person during normal day-to-day activities. I got the permit so I can carry while traveling; I occasionally go to some unsavory locations, and I've REALLY wanted a loaded weapon a few times in the past.

Back to the current topic, with a twist... I occasionally drop off or pick up my son at school. I understand the law clearly states I'm allowed to "possess" a loaded gun in the vehicle when I'm in the car line as long as I don't mess with it. But what if I need to park and walk inside? Say to help my son carry a large project to his class, or meet with a teacher, or drop off some paperwork. Someone posted back in #14 that the only way to legally do this is to stop somewhere off school property and stash the gun (maybe in a bush???).

Any other discussion on this? Can I legally keep an untouched-but-loaded gun in a locked console while my vehicle is temporarily parked on school property? What if the gun is unloaded and stored separate from ammo such that my HCP does not apply? I realize that the chances of being discovered are small, but the possibility exists. I don't want to lose my HCP because of an arrest (highly unlikely), and I worked hard to get my son into a Magnet school and don't want him to get kicked back to his zoned school because I screwed up (more likely).

[Honest Opinions on small 380's??]

When I was thinking .380 I'd narrowed it down to most likely a S&W Bodyguard. Then I realized that 1) my dad and brother both have 9mm Makarovs, and the cartridges are all but identical and I didn't want any mix-ups, and 2) the Walther PPS in 9mm Luger met my needs absolutely perfectly.

So another vote for the Bodyguard .380 Auto with built-in laser.

[Speedy service]

What are people's typical wait times for a new HCP?

I took the class on Nov. 12, applied at the DMV on Nov. 15, Fingerprinted Nov. 19.

Permit was issued Dec. 2

Also, if you're in the Chattanooga area, DO NOT go to the Bonny Oaks DMV. I went there first, and left after 15 minutes with 54 people still in front of me. I was in and out of the one in Red Bank in less than 20 minutes.

[rossi .38 ammo?]

How old is it? I have an older stainless steel Rossi, "Made in Brasil", and happen to have the manual. Specifically says, "Do NOT use +P ammunition in Rossi revolvers chambered for .38 Special!". In BOLD type, complete with an explanation point. But I know that newer Rossi revolvers are rated for +P, and I know I shot a box of +P before I found the manual in my dad's gun cabinet.

[Holidays: Contracting yourself out as Armed Escort?]

In all seriousness, if she's really a friend and you've got the spare time, go help her out as a friend... Kinda wrong to ask for money to do the right thing and help her out.

Or agree to do joint Christmas shopping. As stated earlier, just two people shopping together and one happens to have a HCP. No official contracts, but maybe she gets you a gift card, or some of your gift purchases end up on her credit card, or she brings along a couple of boxes of ammo, or (being sexist here), bakes you some brownies.

[Colt Is Coming South!]

If our illustrious Governor would get his thumbs out and put together the right team (and get the Legislature to amend our corporate tax codes) we could offer significant incentives to firearms manufacturers to lure them south.

One of the unfortunate side effects of having no state income taxes is that the state has to raise the money from other places such as high sales taxes, corporate taxes, and other fees. I'm an engineer registered in 10 states; my annualized TN renewal costs (bi-annual renewal fee plus an annual "professional privilege tax") are higher than all the other states combined. In order to lower the corporate taxes they'd have to raise something else to make up for it.

[Hammerless .327 magnum?]

My mom carries a 6-shot S&W .32 revolver. I didn't think it was a .32 Magnum, but the only similar gun I can find after searching online is the 631LS. Did S&W make a Lady Smith in .32 Long? It's a beautiful gun, stainless with rosewood grips. She carries this gun now (it's legal to carry in a vehicle in Mississippi), but I've been pressuring her into getting a carry permit and having it with her at all times. She works at an auto parts store in a small town and often carries the day's cash deposit to the bank after hours.

Anyway, that's just background, not the question. She has expressed interest in a hammerless revolver. How difficult would it be to bob the hammer on her existing gun? Would it be better (for potential resale value) to REPLACE the hammer with a bobbed version and keep the original intact? Everything I've heard about defensive carry is to use factory rounds and NEVER EVER modify the gun, because a lawyer will use that against you in a civil lawsuit. But a bobbed hammer makes a DA/SA revolver LESS accurate, so I'm thinking this might be the exception.

Second topic:

Optionally, I was thinking about going in with my dad and brother and getting her one for Christmas, but I was also wanting to upgrade to a hammerless .327 Magnum snub nose. She would be able to practice with cheaper .32 Long rounds, but carry .327 rounds which might actually stop a drugged up bad guy. Unfortunately, the only one I can find is the S&W 632, which at over $800 is a bit out of the immediate price range, and she would consider it "ugly" (or can we swap out grips?). I was hoping for something more like $500.

Is the .327 Magnum just too new of a cartridge to have a large selection of revolvers, or has it already peaked and is slowly fading into obscurity? When I first researched the round I thought it had lots of potential... a revolver load shootable by small-handed women (like my little 5'-2" mom) capable of mushrooming and actually stopping a bad guy instead of just making him mad by poking little .32 or .22 holes in him, with less recoil and one more shot than a .357 J-frame. Charter and Taurus used to make a revolvers chambered in .327 magnum, but I can't find them listed on their website (discontinued?). The Ruger SP101 has a hammer and a 3" barrel, so not what I'm looking for.

[Question about transferring gun to relative]

As soon as the uncle becomes a resident of a different state. Federal law states that an individual may not transfer a firearm to a resident of a different state.

ATF Online - Firearms - Frequently Asked Questions - Unlicensed Persons

I'm glad I paused from submitting a new thread and decided to actually search the forums first, because this exactly answered my question. I live in TN and was planning on giving my girlfriend (Mississippi resident) a handgun for Christmas. So now I'll just "loan" it to her until she comes up here permanently. Next I've got to decide between the Walther PPS, Glock 26, or Glock 19. She has small hands, but didn't like shooting my mom's Lady Smith .32 revolver (she said it was too small).

[Finally introducing myself]

I'm more into recreational shooting, not competition. When I lived in Missouri a few members of my church were into the competitive stuff (long-range pistols, speed shooting, "practical" shooting, etc.). When at a local NRA range I would see them get aggravated at "poor" performances or complaining about less-than-perfect reloads. I was just having fun knocking steel plates over at 75 yards with my snub-nose 38 using factory WWB rounds.

I'm a pretty good at shooting long-range with a rifle, but nothing near competition level. As long as I can hit the vital area of a deer at 200 yards with my un-scoped Marlin 30-30 then I'm good to go.

But I CAN see myself maybe getting into longer-range high-accuracy shooting (competing only against myself). I'm also interested in advanced handgun/protection techniques, maybe taking a class or two.

Thanks for the welcome!

[Finally introducing myself]

I've been trying to get back into shooting after a long hiatus. This forum has turned up in many of my web sources as a good place to get information, so I figured I'd join and introduce myself.

I'm originally from Mississippi (rural area, grew up surrounded by carbines, rifles, and shotguns), lived in Kansas City a while, and finally moved to Chattanooga about 6 years ago.

I took my HCP class last Saturday and will apply for my HCP license sometime this week.

Looking forward to getting to know you!

Jason Kilgore

[Vehicle search consent?]

I've never been asked, but I don't think I would consent to a search. I would politely decline. To the best of my knowledge I have nothing illegal in my vehicle, but I'm not intimately familiar with the drug trade and don't know what they might consider "suspicious". From earlier in this thread... a baby spoon? Pills in a prescription bottle made out to the driver? A tube? I'd bet that SOMETHING in my truck could be used for drugs in some way.

I have a few relatives who are officers in various capacities. I normally have the utmost respect for the police, and respect what they do. They put their lives on the line to keep the rest of us safe. But I have problems with these types of searches.

I also participate in other TN discussion forums HERE. A recent thread has been discussing the use of road-side searches, not to stop drugs, but to try and get as much money as possible. Here's a video posted to the thread (not the one in the first post). I love the part toward the end where officers from two different agencies are fighting over who got to a drug stop first (and presumably over who gets to keep the money):

The money quantities in the video are in the tens to hundreds of thousands, but an earlier poster mentioned someone losing what was probably a few thousand. Does anyone here carry emergency cash in your vehicle? If you thought it would be seized, would you agree to a consensual search?