Timestepper

Heller With a Gun The Man Called Noon Hondo Reilly's Luck Any of the Sackett Novels Brionne Chancy The Ferguson Rifle Under the Sweetwater Rim The Proving Trail All of those are more or less excellent books and I think I have pretty much everything he's ever written if you'd like to borrow or do some swapping sometime. Reilly's Luck stands out as a classic to me because the main character is raising a young boy to manhood and the book contains snippets of advice and wisdom which ring very true, even in today's society. Some of Mr. L'Amour's books are better than others and I believe it's because back in the '70's he allowed himself to be contracted for a minimum of three books per year and you just can't write that fast without sacrificing a bit of quality. Spots - if you really want good mountain man stuff, I'd suggest you toss W. Johnstone in the can and pick up something by Terry C. Johnston. Start off with "Carry the Wind" and go from there. Better yet, when we get together next month, I'll try to remember to bring my copy of "Carry the Wind" and you can just have it as a gift and a starting point.

Is that a rhetorical question, or do you actually want an answer?

Damn, I dunno. I think I'd have to be way more than just bored to use one of them scopes!

Now that's funny right there! You almost had me until I realized that that depth of naivete' is completely contradictory to the sage and seasoned, all knowing guru you usually present here. Then I decided to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you were being deliberately obtuse and intentionally obfuscating the issue simply for the sake of argument. Ouch, bit of a cheap shot, don't you think? But, you are of course correct and my only defense is that I was much younger and had obviously been taking advice from someone such as yourself. Btw, being ticketed does necessarily equate to being fined, but your jab was a good one nonetheless. Have a great day! ...TS...

Naw, we flamed him because he's young and new, his being a sicko is completely incidental.

I'll second that emotion!

1st, I don't recall saying anything about a boat trailer. The trailer I was referring to was used to haul "Rendezvous Gear" which is to say all the gear and accompanying accoutrements necessary for those of us who enjoy the historic hobby of revisiting/re-enacting the time period of the Western Fur Trade era. In fact, the trailer that I was pulling at the time was built of wood and mounted on an old Model A frame (with working lights). 2nd, No Sir, Mr. OS, it is not ridiculous and no, it would not be necessary, nor you would be required to " to stop and buy/change plate for every state you passed through." All you gotta' do is go to the local courthouse and explain to them what you need: A registration and tag for a home-built (or commercially made) trailer for the purpose of becoming compliant in other states. If the trailer is of commercial make, you will have to provide a bill of sale or receipt from the time of sale. If it is a home-build, you might need to have someone from the DOT make a quick inspection and certify it as road worthy. Once you have done all this and paid the nominal fee and received/mounted the tag, your trailer is legal in EVERY state where trailer registration/tagging is required (just like your auto registration/tag). 3rd, While there may indeed be different requirements for residents vs "travelers" in certain states, that's not the reason you're not required to stop and register your vehicle in each state you travel through. That has more to do with a continent wide (and I say continent wide because you can also drive into Canada and Mexico without being required to register your vehicle in those countries) reciprocity agreement which, over simplified, basically states that if a vehicle is certified safe and legal in a given home municipality, then all other municipalities will honor said certification of said originating municipality. When I talk to guys about hauling OD (Over Dimensional, AKA Over Sized) loads, I tell them to carefully read each required permit from each state they'll be traveling through and specifically check all lighting/flagging requirements stated on the permit, then get compliant with the state which has the strictest regulations/requirements of all the states they will be traveling through. If they do that, then they won't have to worry about anything but driving and keeping their load secure because all requirements will have been previously met. I said that to say this: Different states/municipalities have different rules, whether it be in regards to vehicles, firearms, fireworks, or farm animals and you are expected to abide by the governing rules of whichever municipality you find yourself in. I respectively submit, Sir, that if you've pulled an unregistered/untagged trailer through a state which requires trailer registration/tagging and didn't get ticketed or warned, it was because you were lucky and not because their rules are negated by the rules of your home state.

Naw, that ain't it! Heck, everyone knows that "virgin wool" comes from ugly sheep!

I know exactly what you mean. (In fact, something about the word "forgery" immediately jumps into my mind.) Or the time when my first wife made something for supper that I just could not bring myself to eat, so I gave it to the dog who took one bite and immediately started licking his butt! She looked at me and asked, "What's he doing that for?" and before I could get my hand over my mouth, I blurted out, "Well, I ain't sure, but I think he's probably trying to get the taste out of his mouth!" OOOOPS!

Generally drop off one vehicle at Banks Campground then drive several miles upstream (either to the TWRA Access or above it) and float down. It May not be the most productive section of the Nolichuckey, but it's fairly easy ingress/egress and that makes a ton of difference when you're only up for a 1 day float.

Well, that'd definitely cut the drive in half and I appreciate the offer, but you're still 260 miles further away than the Clinch.

Okay, I'm really dense this week so explain it to me - Is your common sense bitch slapping your wits (in which case one would assume you are long on common sense, but lacking in wits) or is it the other way around? Sorry, but I just don't get it.

You are exactly right. Doesn't matter a damn what your home state regulations are, you must be compliant with the state you are traveling in.

Actually, OS, last I checked, trailers are not allowed to be driven but instead must be towed. (That's why they're called "trailers.") Oh, and believe me, if you tow a non-tagged trailer into Colorado, you will be stopped and ticketed, no matter where you are from. I had a non-tagged trailer for hauling my rendezvous gear in and got ticketed 3 years in a row and it didn't matter how many times I quoted Kansas regulations at them. Finally I just nailed an old expired tag on the back near the bottom (made a good mud scraper) and never got even got looked at again.

Well, the votes are running 3 to 1 in favor of the 23rd right now, so that's what I'm planning for. If someone would rather do the 30th then they need to vote. If we suddenly get a bunch of votes for the 30th, then I'll change my plans accordingly. Big thing is I don't want someone to sit around and wait to see which date is chosen and then complain because they wanted the other date, but didn't bother to click the vote button. This is not Washington D.C., folks, every vote counts here!

It is indeed. Unfortunately, it's also 560 miles from where I live, which is about 540 miles further than the section of the Clinch I float. Kinda' puts it out of my range, but if anyone else wants to spend the money to drive there, that's cool! It's a pretty place!

There's a decent campground right at Norris Dam. If you guys can make it over some Friday afternoon, I'll give you directions to the campground and you can get a good night's sleep, then I'll meet you there Saturday morning and we'll float from just below the dam all the way down to the highway 61 boat ramp (across from the Eagle Bend Fish Hatchery). It's about a 15 - 20 mile float and depending upon water levels will take anywhere from about 6 to 8 hours. Or we can drive down to the Peach Orchard ramp and put in there at low flow and it'll still take about 5 or 6 hours to get down to the take out, and the fishing might be a little better. OR, we could do one on Saturday and the other on Sunday if we have the whole weekend. There's your choices. I'm booked every weekend, either on the Clinch, the Nolichuckey or for the Primitive Skills thing, between now and the end of June except for the 2nd and the 30th, but there's nothing that says we can't do it in July. Or August. Or the last two weeks in September... Your choice.

Sheep? That's no sheep, that's a Wyoming call girl! (Now don't go gettin' all excited, NoLogic, she's too old for you!)

And we'd love to have you! Tell you what - tell your your boss that you've got a life and it's demanding that you live it for a while on the 22nd/23rd of June. (After that, he can have it back - you're only gonna' need to borrow it for a day or two.)

Well, find a weekend when we're both available and drag your butt (and your daughter and your canoe!) to East Tennessee and float the Clinch with me! There, see how how easy that was?

'S alright, Dave. Old age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill.

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Shoot low, boys! I heered them polyticians ride Shetland ponies!

As long as it wasn't with an unarmed person. Then it would just be... unnecessary. Nothin' to worry about from me, though. Most days I'm kinda' fast, but some days I'm just "half-fast."

Play on words there, GJ, play on words - "forge" as in to make a non-original copy or "forgery." I wasn't insulting your work, I was being a smartass and inferring a completely different meaning than what you obviously meant. It was an attempt at shall we say "Historical re-enacting humor" and obviously it failed miserably.