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[quote name="JayC" post="1189734" timestamp="1410731611"]I feel sorry for the HCP that does that since they'll be in prison for the rest of their lives, for this clown.[/quote] And no, they won't. When he causes someone to reasonably fear for their lives or the lives of others, he has met shoot criteria. Not everyone with a permit is here on this site and familiar with Voldemort's antics. He will take this to the next level, because that's what he does, and he will be shot for it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[quote name="JohnC" post="1189706" timestamp="1410725277"]Folks, stop wishing this guy be shot or killed by LEO's.I don't want to see LEO's put in that position and I don't think he deserves to die for what he's doing right now.If it went like that, there would also be a media circus and it definitely would hurt the case in the local public eye for gun rights and you can bet more laws would be passed to restrict our rights as a result.So rather than wishing he be shot in a dramatic ending, let's all hope and pray for the best possible outcome for everyone.:2cents:[/quote] It isn't about wishing for it to happen, this is about it being a very likely outcome as he chooses to ratchet it up. You think he will stop at body armor, rifle and yelling like a madman??? He will take this further, causing someone to have REASONABLE fear for their lives or the lives if others and he will be shot. He does not exist in a vacuum. Believe it or not, people with guns have watched the news, and active shooter events happen. How many threads are on this very damn site regarding how one would act to an active shooter? You think nobody will take him as one when he takes it to the next level? I do, and the shooter all absolutely be justified for shooting him according to the law. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[quote name="JayC" post="1189734" timestamp="1410731611"]I feel sorry for the HCP that does that since they'll be in prison for the rest of their lives, for this clown.[/quote] Go back and read it again. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  While I cringed at the idea of the government arbitrarily deciding who is too crazy to possess a firearm (in the wake of Newtown), I'd say that a man shouting obscenities in public whilst wielding a rifle for no intended purpose other than to incite panic is something that should be looked at.   I don't believe this idiot intends to harm anyone intentionally.  I do believe his purpose in life is to stick his finger in the eye of everyone who isn't him, with the intention of satisfying himself and potentially gaining lawsuit material.  However, I believe he will continue to ratchet up his antics and be a threat to public safety by causing a reasonable person to fear he is an active shooter.  Kinda like walking into a bank with a dozen road flares strapped to your chest, screaming "allah akbar", then claiming it's your First Amendment right to do so.  Hopefully when he is shot, he is put down for good and no one else is hurt in the process.

I know I joke about this, but he is going to end up getting shot.  I think this idiot is emboldened by recent events and will be mistaken by a HCP holder as an active shooter if he keeps ratcheting it up to see how far he can take it.  Has nothing to do with legality; he is a danger to himself and those around him.

[quote name="Dustbuster" post="1189575" timestamp="1410661322"]If u want 4 there's this can I saw at silencer shop dot ..... Lol may the karma train stop at your station![/quote] Haha, well I'm gonna have to square myself away on a can first. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[quote name="Oh Shoot" post="1189556" timestamp="1410658504"]I'd think carrying the long gun around might closer fit conditions of the statute than cursing the officers would. Since TN starts with premise that carrying a loaded firearm is unlawful, I think all this brouhaha over "reasonable suspicion", "Terry Stop", and the rest of it would be shot down in the court system. Given the law of this state, the fact you are carrying a long gun would seem to be reasonable enough cause to detain one long enough to ensure it is not loaded. After all, it's perfectly fine to detain you long enough to check for permit if they see a handgun on you, eh? I'm surprised they haven't done more of that here and there with the Texas nuts, but I'm not familiar with the various legal basis of firearm stuff in those other states. - OS[/quote] The officer who explained this may be wrong, but last time I had to get the police out for a neighbor idiot the cop told me that if he is cursing an carrying on (it had happened in the past) he'd come out there and arrest him for disorderly conduct. The man had cursed at my wife during an earlier incident which I had not called the cops for. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[quote name="Ted S." post="1189469" timestamp="1410638108"]Reading all the comments on this thread...everyone realizes it's in the "Survival and Preparedness" sub-forum, right?[/quote] Yes, and I take steps to prepare for the unknown such as food, water and a means of defense, so I did take issue with the notion that doing so and not having a bullet proof bunker was somehow wrong or silly. It would be like me saying, "oh, you have a bulletproof bunker, but you didn't dig deep enough to protect from JDAMs? Well you're just not prepared." Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[quote name="DaveTN" post="1189468" timestamp="1410638059"] Apparently Tennessee doesn’t have a law against yelling obscenities in public?[/quote] Last time I checked that was disorderly conduct, right? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[quote name="K191145" post="1189253" timestamp="1410572013"]Does your vehicle have a TN plate and maybe a NRA decal or some gun related sticker? I just have a feeling if it does you might as well put a big sign on it that says, "PULL ME OVER PLEASE?" AND,,, if you actually had any sort of firearm in any sort of storage in the vehicle N.J. cops would treat it like a big celebration party with you face down on the ground and handcuffed. That would "MAKE THEIR DAY".[/quote] From first hand knowledge, they will pull you over and treat you like crap there if you are from out of state. They have these stupid things called jughandles which are the solution for not having left turns. Well, being from out of state, I was looking for the break in the median to make a left turn. Cop pulled me over for being in the left lane and acted like a child, cursing and carrying on; first thing he said as he approached my car: "What the f*** is your problem?" Only thing that calmed him down, and probably kept my car from being tossed, was my mil ID. I hate New Jersey. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[quote name="Lumber_Jack" post="1189076" timestamp="1410530046"]I love how the sentiment in this thread shifted from a crazy ex girlfriend to Hanging Will in the street. I never believe the "he was arrested because parishes don't communicate." You can't tell me that when they went to arrest Will the second time they didn't know he had been picked up recently. I don't believe hat and never did.[/quote] There's a lot more information that's come out since then. I have always entertained the possibility of guilt just like I still entertain the possibility of his innocence. Just isn't looking likely at this point. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  Fair enough.  I was pointing out that it isn't strange at all that someone would prepare for the unknown by having a stock of food, water and weapons yet not have a bulletproof fortress.  Most folks don't have the ability to waste money on that.  Folks have to balance preparedness with the actual reality of problems they have a greater likelihood of encountering.  I used health insurance as an example because it is terribly expensive, yet it is more of a necessity.    For those of us with a family to support, you should understand that it isn't silly that we don't drop thousands upon thousands of dollars constructing a bulletproof structure within a home for the unlikely apocalypse.  Even if I was single and had mounds of cash to blow, I'd still consider the fact that if there was a complete societal breakdown and murderous gangs roamed my streets unimpeded, they would save the ammo and just burn my house down with me in it.   Try to keep in mind that civil unrest does not equate to mass murder and lawlessness in the streets.  For every sociopathic, violent male who would exploit such a scenario, there are dozens of good people who will just be trying to survive.  Those are the folks who flee those areas and live in like minded communities.  While folks may flee heavily populated urban areas of low income and commercialism, which historically are the epicenters of these incidents, people will defend the places which they call home when there are no other places to flee to.  If things were to get so bad that the suburbs and country folks are no longer safe from large gangs of pillagers, we have bigger problems that won't be solved by a defensible structure.

"And I'll be counting on you, in the parking lot...." Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[quote name="Randall53" post="1188935" timestamp="1410474418"]Well, I see a couple of people have thought about this. However, some of you really need to read up on your Testosterone supplements and attempt to cut back on your doses. Abnormal aggression to a fairly simple question on a forum is one side effect. I guess I should have posted this in the Survival and Preparedness section….Oh wait…I DID…! LOL. I will respond though by saying I didn’t tell, nor do I give a hoot how anyone spends their retirement accounts or college funds and civil unrest in no way compares to a freak’n army invasion nor the need for anti-artillery or missile bunkers, castles, nor shark infested moats…I might like to have an armor plated Winnebago though. I’m retiring in 2 weeks and that thing could be good on the freeway! But those comments did crack me up so thanks!! I WAS mostly thinking civil unrest as in drive by spraying of houses, and possibly attacks spreading into suburb type neighborhoods by gangs however. No doubt this could happen if things got really bad in the streets like in the other post I read. From the news, there’s no shortage of guns and ammo in the hood and drive by shootings do occur pretty frequently now in some areas of the hood, but could spread to other areas if, say for instance, the welfare checks quit coming? Or the Obama phones crap out? Anyway, Dolomite hit on a good idea though and thanks for the constructive comment. I have a small 9ft. room that faces the street that would allow covering the front door and has only one small window. It’s in the center of the house that would easily cover the front door and both sides of the house. Heck I could even give the Papa Johns Pizza guy cover while he delivered pizza to the window of my fortified room!! Maybe a steel plate backed by solid 2” rough lumber 4 or 5 ft tall on the side facing the street might do the trick. Guess I’ll just check into it and see what’s out there. Yall be safe and keep your powder dry.[/quote] Forgive me, the reason for my comment was that you said you found it "funny" that people would prepare for things by having food and water supplies, yet not have a house which can stop bullets. Considering the amount of time and money one would have to do to bullet proof their home, it would tie up all finances for most people. Some of us have health insurance which costs more than our mortgage. Considering that one in seven of us in this thread will get cancer at some point, I would not call it "funny" that most people haven't wasted their money on a bullet proof house. I would call it responsible. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I'll worry more about things like cancer.    I realize that it is good to be prepared, but the chances of being the victim of an armed siege which I am single handedly defending, then surviving armed siege (regardless of defenses or what my house is made out of) are about the same as the same as having Jennifer Anniston show up at my front door to give me a BJ and make me a sammich. 

  I don't follow.  Are you saying that I should liquidate my retirement accounts, investment accounts, kids' college funds and all personal property so that I can afford to live in an impenetrable fortress that can stop bullets and be defensible in the event of total societal breakdown? 

  I believe he will.  He's still relatively young.  I have a feeling he will be spending the rest of his life behind bars, so there will be lots of opportunity to be on the receiving end of rape.  That, and the constant fear of violent death at the hands of fellow inmates, will be far more tortuous than a quick round behind the ear.

[quote name="Dustbuster" post="1188748" timestamp="1410416521"]Roflmao "yowza" hahaha[/quote] Indeed. Just don't give her access to your checking account or leave her with a general POA. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[quote name="Randall53" post="1188684" timestamp="1410399937"]I find that amazing. People spend thousands of dollars on survival food, water, guns and ammo, yet most live in a home that most firearms would shoot right through.[/quote] Why? What else folks gonna do? Build a bunker into the side of a hill. Build a fortress with a mote filled with sharks with laser beams on their head. Hard to do on most incomes. Hell, I live in a cinderblock home, but it's still susceptible to fire, artillery, dragons and Skynet Hunter-Killer craft. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[quote name="Oh Shoot" post="1188723" timestamp="1410405674"]In the practical sense, not sure that an individual owner has ever been prosecuted or much less convicted of a 922r charge since it was enacted. Possession of a non-conforming firearm is not even an offense btw, although I guess you'd maybe lose the gun.Only doing the non-conforming modification itself is unlawful. I can see that a lot of detail work would have to go into prosecution for many guns to prove origin of parts and who did what to it when. Maybe not so hard if you're the only owner and converted an imported gun to registered SBR though. ;) But in practical sense again, there are plenty of imported firearms that get SBRed, probably most of them ain't 922r complaint, and would be a ready made pool for ATF to dive into if they really wanted to. - OS[/quote] Food for thought I suppose. Considering I bought it used, who knows where all the parts came from? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[quote name="bersaguy" post="1188587" timestamp="1410382975"]Before this is over it is going to turn out to be like the Tiger Woods Saga. Young women are going to be getting added to the list almost daily now and it will be up to the DA to discount all of the claims verse what is fact and who is just wanting to get their name in the paper and on the news. If the guy is a monster and described and they can get 1 or 2 Iron clad cases against him and get him put away with Big Bubba for ever I see no sense in wasting tax dollars trying him for all of the many more that will be jumping on the band wagon. When they convict him just say your guilty for all of your actions in these cases and any others and life without parole is your sentence and Bubba is waiting for you.........................jmho[/quote] I strongly disagree. If the other accusations can be proven valid, he should be charged and tried for each one. I don't care if the first charge gives him a life sentence. Each victim deserves justice, and he should be tried for crimes committed against each of them, if this turns out to be true. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[quote name="TN-popo" post="1188617" timestamp="1410387506"]I was under the same impression. You probably jumped through hoops to get the gun. You definately jumped through hoops to legally SBR it. And, at the end of all that, .gov is still hung up on the origin of some of the parts. Jeez, this crap is irritating...[/quote] It is. I have an AK74 from the 90s that I added stuff onto with parts from unknown origins. I wonder how the ATF could tell when I don't even know? Perhaps I need to start stamping my stocks and grips "made in USA"? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[quote name="maroonandwhite" post="1188501" timestamp="1410364188"]I'm gonna start saving my pennies and hopefully get one of the watches a few months after they come out. If there are no bugs or serious problems that is. The big plus for me is the heart rate sensor. I was planning to get a running watch with this technology (no chest strap needed) but with it being built in the watch it will make it worth it. Otherwise it would just be convenience. I can see them taking off though. My guess is that they won't do so until a few redesigns. The watch looks fine for me but I doubt many ladies will wear them right off the bat. I do like that they are recognizing how personal of a thing selecting a watch is and are giving us a few options.[/quote] Just so you're aware, there are blue tooth products which pair with your iPhone and work in exercise apps like Runmeter. Just throwing that out there in case that is the primary reason why you're looking to get the watch. I use Runmeter on my iPhone 5 to keep track of my runs and pace progress (or regression) but don't use the heart rate monitor. Just seems convenient to use it since I just play Pandora while I run so I already have my iPhone with me. I believe they have a selection of heart rate monitors. Some can go in your ear I believe. I might have seen a finger tip one too. Been a while since I looked. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[quote name="Mike.357" post="1188480" timestamp="1410360950"]it is not a gun free zone. They don't post and press releases certainly carry no force of law.[/quote] Oh c'mon, you know what I mean. Let us have fun with the irony of them telling customers to leave their guns at home and them being subsequently robbed at gun point. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[quote name="Mike.357" post="1188477" timestamp="1410360150"]it was robbed after hours when a delivery was being made. Not sure what it has to do with Paneras stance on guns.[/quote] The fact it is a gun free zone. Two employees were still there. I assume Panera's new policy extends to employees as well? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk