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[quote name="RobertNashville" post="882004" timestamp="1357947076"]And, so long as the law is written to exempt property owners from liability in the event of such problems then their objection on that basis is moot.[/quote] Sure, I guess that neutralizes the argument against it if the law in that state addresses it. I'd still fall on the side of business though in regard to what they say they can have on their property, but do not agree with them having the ability to search your vehicle as a condition of employment. Perhaps that would be the best of both worlds. A meaningless policy that says you can't have a gun in your car with no teeth to enforce said policy. Employers get to feel empowered and employees get to keep their guns.

[quote name="mikegideon" post="881546" timestamp="1357920122"]More like Benton County redneck testosterone. I've hung out in those parts.[/quote] Well, I was referring to his obvious steroid use. Of course, since its likely he receives his horse testosterone injections anally, I guess it would be more along the lines of 'alternative lifestyle' as opposed to illicit drug use..... ZING!!

[quote name="mikegideon" post="881511" timestamp="1357918472"]   James isn't crazy anyway. I think TGO David's assessment is much closer.[/quote] Yeah, but does excessive use of horse testosterone count as drug use?

[quote name="TGO David" post="881464" timestamp="1357915416"]Odd seeing the server this wound up during the day.  Investigating...   [/quote] No, I think it's on my end; slow connection timed out, refreshed and hit "post" again. Haha, "winged monkeys"... took me a sec.

Effing double posts

[quote name="TGO David" post="881399" timestamp="1357910140"]   F [b][u]YOU[/u][/b], James.  Think before you post some bullshit like that on the Internet next time.  [/quote] He still can't hear you over the sound of how awesome he is.

[quote name="Punisher84" post="881421" timestamp="1357912840"]I get what you're saying, but I wouldn't wish that on anyone.[/quote] Yeah, I know it sounds harsh, but these are the same people who want to leave our women with no viable means to defend themselves from rapists and murderers. Anyone who wants to take my wife's only viable means to defend herself deserves the worst, in my opinion. Especially Pierce Morgan. I absolutely condone him being raped by a herd of rhinos.

[quote name="blankru" post="881195" timestamp="1357878254"]I love this quote "It is unknown if the intruder possessed any weapons or if he further threatened the family in any way". Really?? An intruder breaks in a home and the mother is home alone with kids, and she questioned if he posed a threat? Where do they breed these idiots?[/quote] You're supposed to wait until they make their intentions clear that they are going to rape and murder, then kill your children. I'm sure he was just coming over to borrow some sugar. No one should find it odd that he was carrying a crowbar, it isn't illegal to possess a crowbar after all. The only prescription for these pro-crime, self defense hating liberals is a good dose of rape. Maybe if they had to live the horrors of the real world they wouldn't be so quick to judge those who use a weapon to the defend themselves.

Eh, I think that any employer could lend a good argument to restrict guns on their property. From the law abiding carrier, obviously it will not prevent workplace shootings since the employee doing the shooting probably isn't worried about being fired for ignoring the policy. However, the argument can be made regarding negligent discharges being a liability. Many of us here have witnessed an ND at one time or another. I actually knew a guy who accidentally shot another guy in the parking lot where he worked! So I think it IS relevant for an employer to make that call due to liability. After all, if one employee shoots another employee by accident, who do you think is going to end up paying the bill? I'll give you a hint, things don't work the way it should in our money grubbing litigious society. Now, the other side of the coin is the employer searching your vehicle. I don't see how that should be legal. What is the difference between searching your vehicle or your person, or perhaps your phone? Should your employer get to look through your phone for nudie pictures of your wife or else you're fired? How about looking through your car? If he can look through your vehicle under the pretense that it is on his property and therefore he has a right to do so, shouldn't he also have the right to search a customer's vehicle? I realize that isn't going to happen, but the precedent is still the same, only the employee will lose his job if he refuses. Is there a difference? I don't think there is. So I guess what I'm saying is the employer has a right to restrict guns on his property. Don't like it? Then park offsite, get a different job or suck it up. Carrying a gun isn't covered under any EO laws and it never will be. Employers should have no right to search an employee or his vehicle. If they have probable cause they should call the Popo; that's why we have police, after all.

Oh you crazy gun owners and your facts. This is America. We legislate on emotion, not facts. I couldn't watch this whole segment though. Poose makes my blood boil with all that smugness to the point I want to challenge him to a cage match, and I don't want to sound like Yeager.

Wait, weren't they a TGO vendor for a few minutes? Did we scare them off with our anti-CTD threads?

[quote name="101" post="881277" timestamp="1357883831"] He is not an idiot either. [/quote] I have some videos that contradict that statement.

[quote name="Mykltn" post="881284" timestamp="1357884066"]Didn't realize there was this much love for CTD. I've never had a problem with them but apperantly others have. Thanks for the CDNN suggestion HiPower. I ordered a few from them also.[/quote] Nor have I in regard to purchasing items, which I did for the last time over a decade ago. My problem is their response to any type of market scares where they IMMEDIATELY jack prices up. The bodies in CT weren't even cold yet when they put AR mags at a 500% mark up. F*** them; f*** them in their ear. This wasnt the first time they pulled stunts like this and I promise you it won't be the last. They are sleazy opportunists and should not be patronized by the firearms community.

That's a good question. Did the '94 ban even apply to NFA items? I thought it didn't.

I know that boycotting them won't stamp them out, but I still wouldn't buy crap from them if they were giving away mags with complimentary BJs. **** them.

[quote name="Lester Weevils" post="880803" timestamp="1357852690"]I had got a non-pan-zoom dlink wireless ip cam just because it was easy to buy local, to experiment with, but haven't played with it much yet. Those Foscams get real good reviews but there wasn't one fer sail local and was too lazy to order one yet. Just wanted to get my feet wet with some experience.   Been wondering maybe even indoor cams could be adapted for "gentle use" outdoor around the house, by mounting it in a weatherproof box. Either permanently attached or temporary placement. Perhaps get a small weatherproof plastic camping container as sold at walmart and other places, hinged gasket lid and easy-open clamps. Cut a neat square or round hole where the cam will look out and glue in an optical glass flat or optical quality acrylic or polycarbonate flat. The ideal optical flat would be transparent to infrared so the camera would operate in night-vision mode. Otherwise the infrared LED's would reflect off the flat and fog up the video at night. Most glass is almost certainly unsuitable for a night-vision capable box, haven't researched to determine if there is common plastic that would be more fit for purpose. Then again, an optical glass flat with excellent anti-reflection coating might do, except that MOST glass also tends to block infrared transmission.   What I'm really looking for, first and foremost, is a peer-to-peer capable wireless night-vision cam. So that no router or wireless access point need be involved. There are zillions of android apps that MIGHT be talked into such, but can't find references of many people that got it working, with enough details to know it is practical for my uses. A couple of companies supposedly are beginning to release IP cams programmed to do peer-to-peer, at inflated prices, for "people too dumb to set up a wireless router" properly. But I just want to get the router out of the circuit, rather than being askeered of setting up a router.   The foremost application would be for an excellent backup cam for the jeep. I'm blind in right eye and the neck is stiffer than when I was young, and when backing I about have to break my neck twisting around to see good enough with only one good eye. I need a backup cam bad. Also want said backup cam "always on" not just when in reverse. Many cheap backup cams are designed to only run when in reverse gear, and if you run them all the time they will overheat and fail. But a big monitor and clear video of the back view would suffice as "better than rear view mirror" in conjunction with the center and side mirrors, for a one-eyed fella with a stiff neck.   Many spensive wired big-monitor rear-view cam solutions mount the big monitor where the radio goes, for both rear-view and GPS. A two eyed fella might find that ideal, but only being able to see out the left eye, I have to take my eye entirely off the road to glance far enough right and down to get a good view of the console radio. So putting even a big monitor there would be a safety hazard. There are various fancy spensive RV and big rig always-on wired and wireless rear-view solutions, and also one company sells a spensive rechargeable battery wireless always on rear-view system for RV's, trucks, and temporary mountings for ease of trailer hookups. One small cam with suction cups, and then a small video monitor receiver with various dash mount options. Unfortunately the video receiver has too small a screen for my liking, and it costs too much. The cost would be fine if the monitor was big and it was higher-res.    I could fabricate and mount a real rugged phone or pad holder on the left-front window post of the jeep.  Mount a 10" or 11" pad puter or a big screen smartphone on the post and it would not obscure the traffic view any worse than the front window post already does. Such a rear view monitor would be at eye level and easy to glance at with left eye without taking eye off the road. Also the most ideal solution for a one-eyed guy to watch a gps program running. With a high-res cam, it would be a fabulously detailed always-on rear view. Don't have time to do a science project learning how to program an android to peer-to-peer wifi app, if none of the thousands of android cam viewer apps don't quite fit the bill. Maybe the easiest solution would be to permanently wire a cheap wireless router to the jeep DC, but finding off-the-shelf peer-to-peer wifi viewer app that would talk to any IP cam sans router would be the most elegant solution.   Peer-to-peer connection to a battery-operated hi-res wireless cam would also be great for many assorted things. If a particular part of the property needs watching "temporarily". Or maybe hang one or more in trees for camping, or even realtime game-cam temporary uses.   It may be that wifi is not the best avenue. Something I need to research more-- Apparently there is a tiny market niche of hi-res bluetooth cams (obviously peer-to-peer from the get-go) that are primarily sold as first-person sportscams. Haven't surveyed the entire market and it would probably be higher priced. It would almost certainly have good enough range to work in a jeep wrangler as a rear-view cam, but the limited range of bluetooth would rule out many other possible uses.[/quote] I checked Amazon when I was looking into getting this and saw that Foscam makes outdoor IP security cameras that are enclosed and have many of the same features as this for less that $150.

I try not to break laws because I'm a semi-responsible adult. I have much more to lose by breaking the law than guns, or at least my guns aren't the first priority for me.

Just ordered two of them.

[quote name="monkeylizard" post="880677" timestamp="1357843572"]I'm wondering if it was on a shelf in a safe and the door opened (triggers the motion sensor) would it transmit the photo(s) before the thief has time to grab the camera and pull it out from its power supply.[/quote] That is assuming the thief immediately realizes that its an IP camera, then decides not to just run away. I'd say the chances of that happening are slim if someone enters your home.

[quote name="tartanphantom" post="880641" timestamp="1357840480"]seriously... this post is the funniest thing I have read all day. sad, but funny. :rofl:[/quote] Ha, thanks. I'm on a roll today.

[quote name="BimmerFreak" post="880624" timestamp="1357839640"]Well, if they did, it would certainly give him the opportunity to validate that "line in the sand"[/quote] Ha, the only sand he should be worrying about is the sand in his vagina. It seems to make him quite agitated.

I hope the FBI doesn't roll him up any time soon. His antics are more entertaining than Leonard's.

[quote name="gnmwilliams" post="880584" timestamp="1357835684"]Remotely. The instructions take you through how to set up a public IP as well as set the camera up on your local network. Now the refresh rate is faster on your local network, which is to be expected, but viewing remotely has maybe a two second delay which is more than usable for me. And that's been remotely viewing it over a cellular connection. I haven't gotten to a PC outside my home network to try out the browser view yet. My work's firewall won't let me view it here. :([/quote] I just sent the company an email to inquire about the set up, since I left my wife with the laptop that has a broken CD tray which would make setting up the software difficult. She just uses her ipad. This system is way better than the we use now, and I love the idea of being able to watch the kids while I'm away. I'm planning on having one set up in the kids' play room and the baby's room. Thanks for the link, it's about to improve my quality of life.

So can you view remotely or do you have to be on the same network as the camera?

Haha, Chicago. They think they're people.