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    I'm trying to think of a practical application of attaching a .22 to the bottom rail of a .223 rifle.  It looks cool, so surely there is a good reason out there to justify it, I just can't think of one.

  Doh!

Way cool.  Don't let the libs see this.  It's scary looking even though it's a .22; surely must be banned.

  An officer telling a citizen that they are breaking a law that doesn't exist is derelict.  Sorry.    The OP made it clear that the officers did not issue a lawful order, they told him he was breaking the law, hence my reference of them making up a law that doesn't exist.  So I'm not sure what you're debating here.  If this was a thread about what lawful orders an officer can give then maybe you'd be contributing, but it is not and you are just trolling.

Well I'm not the type of person that likes to bash LEOs or jumps at the opportunity to point out wrongdoing. I almost always side with the Popo on stories regarding shoots or whooping a bad guy's butt, but in cases like this where it is a matter of sheer derelict I take exception. My original response was the that the OP's buddy should contact the Sheriff and let him know about it, because obviously these two need to be corrected. I'm sorry, but there is zero excuse for any LEO not to know laws on legal/illegal carry.

No, it's not a matter of an obligation, I just refuse to be subjected to laws that don't exist. I don't know all the laws, but if the laws I do know, if I happen to be conducting myself in a legal manner and an officer decides to tell me I'm breaking a law that I know for a fact does not exist, I will absolutely challenge that officer to arrest me on that charge. I guess I'm just the crazy one here that doesn't believe that law enforcement have the powers to create laws. And no, you can't be charged with crimes that don't exist. That would be impossible. You can be arrested, but not charged. And no, I don't have a distrust of police. I come from a law enforcement family. I only dislike officers that are incompetent or see their badge as something higher than what it is. I don't think most cops fall into that category, but some do and if I were to encounter one of those people I will not be subjected to illegal treatment and go about my merry way. It is a matter of principle. Besides that, I don't suppose I'd have a very high opinion of myself if I allowed another human being to subject me to some kind of self appointed power of making up laws and administering justice beyond the scope of what is legal. No, I'd allow him to either correct himself or take me to jail. I agree that an officer has a right to disarm you. I also agree it is legal under TN law for that officer to run your serial number, although I believe it is a 4th Amendment violation. Those types of arguments are not to be had on the side of the road, because the officer is acting within his capacity, whether I like it or not. But if an officer is to make up a law on the spot with the expectation I am to adhere to that law, I will tell him that I will not adhere to such a law because it does not exist. I don't even understand how you can believe that one can be charged with a crime that isn't in the law books, but there is a booking process that must take place before you are officially charged. If that crime can not be found it would be difficult for them to charge you.

Seems like these land owners could make a couple bucks off letting folks take hogs on their land.

You seem to very seriously misunderstand what the difference is between a lawful order and what is the law. A cop can tell me to keep my hands out of my pockets, but he can't tell me that the act of putting my hands in my pockets is in it of itself a crime. So, for example, if an officer tells me to keep my hands out of my pockets during a stop that is a lawful order. If a cop says, "hey, it's illegal to put you hands in your pockets" I'm going to tell him that it isn't illegal, and then put my hands in my pockets. This wasn't an officer giving a lawful order. This was two dummy officers that need to pull their heads out of each other's asses. They said "this is the law." I once again made very clear, you can't be charged with a crime that doesn't exist. I will gladly get booked at a jail for committing a false crime after telling informing an officer that he needs to research the law.

I remember that. I was in the Ocala Forest during that period. You could barely drive due to the smoke.

The facts seem to be that he was a sh**bag cop with a poor performance record who had a training officer that held him to certain standards of accountability. Since he blames everyone but himself for all the woes in his life, it doesn't seem like such a stretch that he blamed this female cop for the bad reputation he was earning as a substandard officer. So, I think it is clear he was attempting to assault her character in a manner which would make him seem noble, while at the same time negating all the poor performance reviews she had given him. Having been in the army and seeing stuff EXACTLY like the scenario I just described, I don't think it is a big stretch. The nail in the coffin would be the three dead bodies and a 20 page manifesto which blames everyone but himself for why innocent people are dead.

He's got a prime time show and probably wants to keep it until they cancel it for lack of ratings.

Why? By all accounts this guy was a sh**bag in everything he did in life. He was a failure in the Navy Reserves. He was a failure at the police academy, but managed to squeak by. He was a failure as a cop. Why all of a sudden should he be so credible regarding his "story" about being the victim of a conspiracy? Because he killed three people, one of them an unarmed girl? Or because we just assume that LAPD is just corrupt in everything they do, from firing problem cops to feeding the goldfish in the lobby? Like I said before, when someone goes on a killing rampage and murders innocent people, I begin to doubt that person's credibility. I'm surprised there is anyone that wouldn't.

Yeah, I'm trying not to give him too much credit as the media has made him out to be a scubaninjaspecialforcesSEALsniperrambo, when in fact he was just in the Navy reserves as some kind of BS officer who never stepped foot in a combat zone. Just because he shot a bunch of folks that didn't know they were gonna be shot is not proof to me that he is so "highly trained". I do believe that he has an inflated idea of his abilities based on some of the stuff written in his manifesto, and that's why I think there is just as much chance that he thought ahead to stow another vehicle as there is a chance he is frozen to death out in Big Bear, since he seems to think sitting through a two hour Powerpoint class on survival and evasion techniques makes him Survivorman. Since I believe this guy is a scared coward at heart, I'm hoping that he is so bad off right now and still alive that he surrenders, so that everyone can see what a little coward he is, rather than him go out in a blaze of glory and be given credit for all this false bravado.

One of the dumber things I've seen. If an officer needs a glass punch it can be easily carried and stowed on their person, or do what everyone else does and use an asp. I guess this is for suspects in a vehicle that are being held a gunpoint by officers so they can break the glass without having to take their hands off their firearm, but it seems cumbersome and you'd have to get right up to the window to do it. I'd much rather have the gun in one hand and an asp in the other smashing it out.... or maybe just keep some porcelain chips in your kit.

I was thinking when they found the burned out truck and tracks that led off into the wilderness that one of two things is going to happen. 1. He's going to freeze to death because he won't be able to handle that kind of exposure without proper gear, and would have no hope of hoofing it out of the area in the amount of time it took police to discover the burned out truck and lock down the area. 2. He planned this thing out well enough to have an evasion plan complete with a diversion, such as making the police shift their search effort to remote woods during cold weather' which he knows will take them a while before they can claim it is clear. So perhaps he pre-positioned another form of transportation nearby and is long gone from the area. I guess there is a pretty good chance he is option #2, since it is clear he planned this thing out, but his freedom of movement is extremely limited since everyone knows what he looks like. There aren't many places for him to lay low without someone noticing. Even hiding in a state park somewhere will ensure contact with other park goers. So I think he will be found fairly soon unless he is in Mexico or something. Otherwise, he's already froze to death.

I was just thinking that about halfway through the recipe.

Put your skeptic glasses on for this book guys. The authors do not have direct access or even indirect access to the information they claim to know. There are a lot of assumptions made here regarding who knew what and when they knew it. Even the most high level folks in the community (who aren't going to risk their security clearance leaking information to these two guys for a book) would not have access to some of this info, which makes me very suspicious. I think some of their "sources" may be leading on more than they actually know, and I think these two authors are aware of that on some level, but hey, sensationalism sells and they are clearly marketing a product here. Like I said, put you skeptic glasses on when you read this and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Get a DVR; it will change everything. When I'm gone the wife DVRs all our shows so we can watch them any time we want. Oh, and spoiler alert..... season 3 is waaay better so far than season 1 and 2.

Not sure if it would have swung the election in those key states, but there is no denying that many folks who would have otherwise voted for Romney decided to stay home because they didn't like him and thought he was a bigger threat to the 2A than Obama. I wonder what they're thinking now.

Since we're on the subject, how do you guys prepare them? I haven't eaten squirrel in 20 years, but don't recall it being that good when I ate it. Just curious what you're doing to make them taste good.

If this is the guy responsible for sticky grenades in Halo 3 then he deserves to be brow beat. :)

He'll have my vote in the primary.

BTW, I installed the beveled magwell on my compact (Kimber makes them for that size grip) and I fit the 8 rd Wilson Combat mags in there just fine. The bumper barely sticks out, so it doesn't look unnatural or anything and it doesn't make it any less concealable.

Ha, okay, I just saw that you said "OC" so I thought you were I intentionally open carrying it. I normally carry a 1911 OWB (shirt over it) but I have a TCP for back pocket carry when going certain places.

You open carry a LCP? I thought the whole point of that design was for concealment. Seems as if you're going to open carry you might as well carry something with a larger round and more capacity.