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Shooting him might not get you in trouble, but taking a dump on him might... at any rate, the coroner would not be pleased.

I hope you guys make it a point to clean up. I'm sure that you do, it's just the last time I was on that range folks had TRASHED it, leaving all their "field expedient" targets all over the range. Mostly bubba, gone out there to shoot at cans and beer boxes, but I couldn't believe the state of the range when I saw it. It literally would have taken a dump truck to pick up all the crap out there.

Right, I have no doubt that slimeball lawyers will try to soak you in civil court, and depending on the state you're in a DA might come after you, but in the world that exists before the courtroom, the world in which you are currently fighting for your life that means dick to me. If I'm in fear of being killed, I'm in fear of being killed, ya know. There is nothing anyone can say that could possibly trump fear for your life of the life of a loved one, because there is no punishment the courts can dole out to you that is worse than death or watching a loved one killed.

Hate to say this, but I was on a range once with soft skill POGs and saw a private trying to zero his weapon with no rear sight on it. I intervened asking him if there was anything missing on his weapon. He was lost. :(

Maybe they didn't "apprehend" him because the day he died Dorner engaged a truck with Park Rangers in it with a heavy volume of fire in an attempt to kill the occupants, then later shot two deputies, killing one, before barricading himself in the house and not surrendering when given the opportunity, making it clear to any one WHO HAS BASIC REASONING SKILLS, that he will try to kill anyone who enters the home to apprehend him. I don't know about you, but I'm not going into that house to face certain death if there is a way around it. They tried to gas him. It caused a fire (maybe). Sh*t like that happens when you kill 4 people and tell the police you have no intention of being taken alive.

How so? The criminal is still pointing a gun at him as he's retreating. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who has just robbed me at gun point who still has a weapon is a threat. People get shot all the time by thugs as they run away. One such case was a gun store where an armed robber fired as he ran back outside, and one of the rounds hit the store clerk in the neck. The robber wasn't even facing the direction of the clerk; he fired over his shoulder as he retreated. Anyone who has attacked you and is still armed should be shot, as they are still a threat, unless they are surrendering. Running away doesn't mean they aren't a threat.

I'm pretty sure the Benchmade I was issued in the army is considered a switchblade under TN law. I didn't know it was a crime to carry that around until I read something about prohibitions on switchblades. I never left the house without it.

That's a good point, as I've seen folks post before about having a group of other homeschooling parents and having their kids involved in sports at the schools in their district. My personal experience with it is a family member who homeschools for the purpose of keeping her child in a protective bubble. She's the type that says if you vaccinate your children you're sheeple, if you eat anything but organic you'll get all kinds of cancer, and her son might as well be a bubble boy since he's such a pussy. Some day he will need to be a man, but he ain't gonna be much of one. I worry about when he gets old enough to notice girls, and will never have any romantic experience until he pays for it in his twenties once he is finally free from the protective bubble of mother and the Bates Motel. Of course, it's none of my business how someone raises their kid, I just can't help but notice the glaring issues there and how that boy is going to need a lifetime of therapy if he doesn't climb to the top of a bell tower and take out a few dozen people first. I would really feel guilty, as if I was depriving my son from an experience if I put him in an environment void of peers, friends, romances, bullying, childhood fights and just basically learning how to out scratch certain things on his own, and I'm just there when he needs me, not when he doesn't.

I don't know why Texas would legalize open carry... don't they know the arguments they will start on the gun forums there?? :)

Kinda like if I'm overheard in an airport saying, "man, that Lo Mein from Panda Express was the bomb!" I'm likely to be handcuffed and buttraped by TSA for the next 48 hours. "Sorry sir, just following procedures. I don't make the rules, I just blindly follow them because I am not intelligent enough to exercise judgement on my own."

I always thought of Missouri as being pretty conservative, but it seems a lot of the crazy gun stuff is coming out of that state. These are the folks that had a representative who wanted to make it a crime if you didn't report to the school system that you had a gun in your home..... for the safety of the "children"...

This video needed Benny Hill music.

I didn't think you were being an ahole at all, and sorry if I came off a little strong. It's just I think the numbers on homeschool children are a little misleading in regards to their success and this is why: Folks like to point towards homeschooling as it generally has better results than public schooling when it comes to education and later life success. What I don't think is taken into account here is that parents who homeschool are naturally going to be parents who take a greater interest in the education of their child, so you're not going to have a large sampling of under-educated homeschool children the way you would for a similar pool of children in public school, where there is a mixture of parents who care and those who don't. For the parents who don't care, it wouldn't matter if the kids were in the best school with the best teachers, they're still most likely to turn out crappy if they have crappy parents who aren't involved in their schooling. Every time a child graduates from public school and goes on to higher education (academic or vocational) and begins a successful career, that is an example of the system working, but it takes parents and teachers together. I'd think homeschooling wouldn't be a problem if it weren't the things those kids miss out on. They need to learn many of those childhood life lessons on their own, not having mommy within arms reach. Especially once they start hitting puberty. They need to be around the opposite sex, have girlfriends/boyfriends, get heartbroken and learn about real friendships. Those shouldn't be lessons they learn after they've left the nest.

I'm sorry, there are some very important social interactions that should be going on in the teen years that aren't happening at home or at the youth group meetings. If I had been denied that experience as a teen I'd have some pretty deep resentment towards my parents, no matter how successful and educated I turned out to be.

Sounds like they'd have a heart attack if they saw a Chuck Norris backpack.

Ha, this reminds of the times I would return from a deployment having seen no commercials or movie previews in a long while. People look at you like you're crazy for not knowing what they're talking about. I still get that though, since we have a DVR service, so I never watch commercials anyway.

Where I learned to debate was in a social studies class in high school. I had a flaming hippie liberal teacher who, amongst other things, was charged with teaching us history. His opinions never influenced mine, but I learned how to debate against a liberal and was even more solidified in my beliefs. Maybe other students had their minds warped by this lib, but that would be because they were weak minded and needed their opinions dictated to them, as they couldn't develop them on their own. That is a symptom of crappy parenting, not a crappy teacher. Anyone who sends their kids to school with an empty mind with no ammunition to counter ridiculous liberal doctrine should not be surprised when their kid comes home spouting liberal garbage. If anything I want to expose my kids to liberal ideology, so they can process it with the mind of a skeptic, not the mind of drone. We're raising adults, not children.

Yes, it is absolutely awesome. Bring a few hundred rounds of 9 shot and a couple of shotties, you two will have a ball. Don't bother bringing clays though, you have to use theirs the way it's set up.

Well, I gotta be honest, if this bill passes in Missouri the citizens of that state should forcibly overthrow that states government. This is the clearest violation of the 2nd Amendment yet. I can't imagine this happening in TN, but if it did I know I wouldn't be turning in my guns.

Yeah, you can take a DIAS and stick it in a new rifle.

Yet they won't recognize Kurdistan, even though they have borders and an autonomous government. As for "Palestinians", it speaks volumes that the Jordanis won't even claim them despite historical boundaries which would put the "Palestinians" square in Jordo territory.

He was given lots of chances. In each one he decided to shoot officers or shoot at officers. The day he died he had two separate run ins with police, both times shooting at them, resulting in the wounding of one officer and the death of another. I don't know why anyone would assume that he would give up peacefully after that display, but apparently the police did when they tried to gas him. The fact that it caused a fire (no one knows if that is true) is inconsequential. They did everything within reason to allow him an opportunity to end this peacefully. He chose not to. I don't care if the cops threw a Molotov cocktail into the house. They were justified to use deadly force.

Ahhhh, I'm so butthurt and offended by these targets now! We must stop this, as it will lead to discrimination and blood in the streets! Somebody call the ACLU!

Yeah, he had a chance to surrender. Instead, he shot two more cops, killing one of them. Even after that he still had a chance to surrender. Police had no obligation to take him alive. Same as if a sniper had a shot on him.

I guess that's their problem. I'm not going to change my behavior because of someone else's irrational fears. Even if they are rational fears, as you seem to think, I don't see how a paper target changes any of that. Nashville has a massive Muslim population, but I have no intention or urge to start killing them because I've shot paper targets with Arabs on them. Perhaps if they were pointing an AK47 at me, like the targets depict, that would be different. But then I suppose that would be true of anyone pointing any weapon at me, so I still don't understand your argument. Is your argument that they should only have white Anglo-Saxon males on them? Would that be somehow more acceptable? Think about that, really, and then try to tell me how that line of thinking isn't absolutely racist in it of itself. You still haven't answered my question of a guy being on a target with a cross on his neck, nor have you acknowledge whether simply wearing a rag on your head is an Islamic mandate, which it is not.