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It's against the law to ship a knife into TN if it's over 4 inches? I guess I'm confused by all the dumb laws we have. To be honest, I've been carrying auto knives since I was first issued on in the Army years ago. These laws are stupid and silly anyway, and I'd rather take my chances than follow some stupid senseless law.

  Unfortunately it will be impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that this wasn't an accident.  I suspect that it was either intentional or the result of gross negligence.  I'm betting the medical examiner comes back with a report citing that the injuries are not consistent with this monster's story, but in a courtroom a laywer could easily put doubt in a jurors mind.  He'll probably plead down to some sort of dumbed down charge and do little time in jail, if any.  Wouldn't do him much good if I was the father of this little girl; every breath he took would be counting down to the day I kick his oxygen habit for him, but then again, I wouldn't be in jail for 6 months while some drug addict boyfriend of the mother watches my child.  Every adult in this scenario needs sterilized at a minimum. 

  Truly a great service you're providing.  Do they still do employee discounts?  I can't remember how that worked.

  I hate that I agree with this.

  I thought he made some good points in his rebuttal.  You however, have yet to provide source for your numbers you claimed or context.  I've laid out the numbers for you above.  Currently suicides by active duty and reserve military personnel are below the national average.  What are your questions?   Next, don't get too bent out of shape regarding him call BS on the 26 year old 6 tour claim.  A common accepted term of "tour" indicates about 12 months.  Those numbers may go up or down based on the surge back in '07 or the recent shortening of conventional troop deployments to 9 months, but a 90 day rotation by the 160th is much different than 12 months in the box.  I've heard plenty of 160th and AF folks early on in the war who had done a couple of 90 rotations and claim 2 tours like they are some kind of 'Nam vet who cuts off ears and eats VC tongue... those folks are the ones who are full of sh** and need to be outed as posers.  When 4 "tours" only add up to one "tour" by an actual grunt who gets the pleasure of making contact with the enemy daily, I proudly support anyone who tells that sorry POG to STFU.

No, not at all. First, the Wahhabi movement in Iraq is relatively small. Yeah, they're there, but they weren't the people we were mostly fighting. At any rate, the worst treatment of women I witnessed was how the Shias treated their women. Perhaps that had something to do with them being traditionally poor and socially/politically isolated, but I don't really care their reasons. The fact that this was an acceptable practice in their culture shows me that they are, as a whole, morally bankrupt people. Comparing them to slave owners perhaps is a good comparison, since the women in this culture are indeed slaves by definition, but slavery is and has always been evil with the exception of using captured enemy and convicted criminals as labor. However, I don't see that translating to our own society for two reasons. One, we are talking about the here and now, not what happened 150 years ago. Two, even when slavery was legal it was still challenged nearly equally by the anti-slave movement as being evil, and it was not a normal practice for the average American. Not every dirt farmer had a slave, despite popular belief, whereas nearly every household in countries who have oppressive laws against women has a woman as a commodity, not a person. For more on whether or not we can classify a culture as evil, please look into the Ayatollah's opinion on sexual contact with prepubescent girls. I can assure you, if the Pope came out tomorrow and suggested that non-penetrative sexual contact with girls younger than 9 was okay, nearly every Catholic in the world would have a problem with that regardless of his position as Pope.  And yet, you'll be hard pressed to find Shias of that region to think ill of the Ayatollah.  This is not a culture I need to better understand for the purpose of tolerance.  I only need to understand it for the purpose of keeping such a cancer from spreading. As for the rise of Wahhabists in Afghanistan, yeah... they're pretty bad. Even if the Taliban never has a majority influence in the government once we leave, it doesn't matter. Their mark has been left on this generation and every generation after this one. Several decades ago women were well on their path to independence, or at least relative independence compared to the region. The oppressive laws which violate a female's basic human rights in Afghanistan only came about in the last few decades. The cultural shift has empowered generations of men to trade and barter women as a commodity. They are not humans, they are objects. I know you're playing devil's advocate here, and it isn't as if I don't see the validity of the point you're trying to make. Best case scenario you have a teacher who is using props to demostrate social norms of other cultures and presenting it in such a forum as to draw attention to the oppressive nature of their laws... that is best case scenario. Worst case scenario this was done as "cultural sensitivity" training to show how other cultures do things differently, but not including that those practices are done involuntary with threat of physical violence and imprisonment for lack of compliance. Either way, if it is okay to dress young American girls in clothing which symbolizes female objectification and slavery as an education tool to draw attention to other cultures then it must be okay to dress the Jewish kids with a gold Star of David on their shirts to teach kids about the holocaust. I don't believe either practice is acceptable. There are better ways to do that.   Notice that I mention "culture" here. I don't want to mistake this for an indictment of the whole of Islam. There is no mandate in the Quran or hadiths for women to wear burqas, hijabs, niqabs, chadors, etc. Just like there is no mandate for Muslim men to wear a dishdasha, kufiya, turban, etc. Scholars who quote the Quran regarding modest dress and the hadiths regarding how Muhammed and his wives dressed is subjective and is interpreted to modern Islamic dress codes by conservatives, but there are plenty of Muslims in the world who don't follow this as sunnah. Hell, despite what folks see on tv, MOST Muslim men don't wear any covering on their head although many believe it is sunnah to do so because Momo did it, when in fact Momo was just playing the part of what a dignified Arab of the day dressed as... you know, all the ones who were praying to the moon god and such and being molested by genies. And I suppose I'm making the unfounded assumption that this was not voluntary. Things may have changed, but when I was in school if the teacher were to ask, "Johnny, would you like to come up here and participate?", that was an implied task, not something that a student would say "no" to. I assume as a teacher of students you know this. I've never been a teacher in acedamia, but I have been a teacher/instructor for thousands of people over the years, and I've never had a student say "no" when I've asked them to the front of the class for a demonstration. I guess you could say all my students who participated in demostrations were "volunteers" but what would they say? No? They'd look like a dick to everyone, including me. So no, I don't buy the school's assertion that this was voluntary.

Hmm, I recall getting a 10% discount. We had a card we were issued that the cashier would swipe. In fact, if I recall correctly, family members could also use the discount card... last time I was a cashier there was in '96. Yeah, I'm with you in theory sorta on getting first dibs, but then again, if you work at Walmart you're there all the time, so when ammo hits the shelf you're not gonna just let it get sold before you have a chance to stock up. I totally agree with limits on purchase, and Walmart is known to do that on items other than ammo... most recently the prepaid iPhones. So long as there is a limit and you don't have an associate buying out the whole stock, I don't see the problem with it ethically.... just sucks not being the guy lucky enough to get there in time. Now, if any Walmart associate is buying daily and reselling on Armslist (reference the ahole with two dozen bricks of federal Wally World ammo for $50 bucks a pop) the hammer of justice should be brought down on him and he needs to go back to the unemployment line.

My uncle has a hermit type neighbor that lives on an adjacent 20 acre lot. In the past few years he's stockpiled several years worth of food, over 100 rifles of varying types, probably 100,000 rds or more of ammo, barred up all windows and doors and has them blacked out, a couple of pit bulls, and installed a security camera system and is backed up by a generator and a 500 gallon fuel tank. Now, my uncle has a garden, chickens and pigs, but he jokes that if supplies ever ran low, he'd just wait in the wood line for the neighbor to take his dogs out for a dump, shoot him, and he'd instantly have years of supplies. Something to think about.

When you go snipe hunting make sure to take a box of grid squares with you so you don't get lost.

It isn't risky if it is simply for personal use. For example, I worked at Walmart when this whole "Tickle Me Elmo" crap was going on. You couldn't get one without a fight. Now, if an employee was to snag one as they're hitting the shelves so that they can give to a relative, that's okay, but if they're turning around to sell it on eBay for $200, they'd get fired if they are caught. Simply stated, you can't use your employee discount to resell items. They can and will fire a person for that, and in this economy anyone stupid and greedy enough to do that deserves to lose their job and starve.

. Are you kidding? Pilots are nothing more than a heavy machine operator. They don't handle intelligence or know the full scope of a situation outside of what they can see from their cockpit. A pilot could never make that choice. That is the silliest thing I've ever heard.

So if Bush ordered one of the hijacked planes on 9/11 to be shot down that would have been murder? He should have just knowingly let them fly into the WTC and Pentagon?

Perhaps that is the case, or perhaps not. The bottom line here is I do not want my child being dressed in a human slavery outfit, I don't care the context. Think about how pissed people would be if they were making the black kids dress up in chains and learning how to pick cotton. You may not see the offensive similarity there, but you may not have been exposed to the culturally acceptable subhuman behavior towards women I've witnessed between Iraq and Afghanistan. It is evil. No matter how many good folks come out of this region it doesn't change their evil culture and I won't have my kids being forced to emulate people of that culture. You may say that it was voluntary on the part of the kids, but that is just as big of an assumption as to say it was involuntary. Who is right? Well, I remember being in class as a kid, and there is an expectation to participate. I can't imagine a world where a teacher would tell me to do something and I would say no. You can't deny the influential role that teachers play in terms of kids following their instructions for fear of being punished or bringing attention to themselves to be the subject of ridicule for being a problem child. My kid will never wear a burqa for any reason ever. This is not about intolerance. It is for the same reason she will not be dressed like a whore or a slave.

You can look it up in the dictionary, but no where do I see that word only pertaining to sexual objects. Feel free to hop a plane to Afghanistan to see the way women are treated in society and tell me they aren't forced objects. I know better. I've spent 4 years in the Islamic world; women are indeed 2nd class citizens, and in some places I see them treated worse than livestock.

Good thing our government doesn't have weapons capable of destroying whole cities, or guided munitions that can be fired from hundreds of miles away, or manned aircraft that can deliver precision guided munitions of every sort... good thing, it would be scary if they had THAT kinda stuff at their disposal.

I do get a warm fuzzy every time I see this graphic. At least it shows that there have been advances in gun rights despite several set backs and repeated assaults from the left. Would be nice to see TN as an unrestricted state.

Buy a M&P 15-22... it will change your life.

    Right... folks like me might be stealing your bricks of .22 if I can't find any on the shelves.

  It's a good way to get fired.  I would think that managers there have enough vested that they wouldn't be involved in that sort of thing.  I wouldn't be surprised if there were some associates who were buying for themselves just to resell, but if they got caught they would most certainly get fired.  I worked at WalMart when I was younger, and would probably have been using my access to purchase stuff as it came in, but it would never cross my mind to purchase for the purpose of resale because it would violate both personal and professional ethics, not to mention it would be risking my job.  It's one thing to be an employee there and get dibs as stuff comes in, just because you get to see it hit the shelves before most customers, but it is different to buy those items for the purpose of resale, especially if it's to make a profit gouging potential customers of the very business that is employing you.    Associates get a discount, or at least they did when I worked there, so any employee using their discount for the purpose of resale would be fired with the quickness, guaranteed.  Kinda like the guy who was here posting about doing something similar at Gander Mountain and was subsequently canned for it.

  Well I guess we're interpreting two different things from what he is saying.  No one has been targeted on US soil for assassination since the Bonnie and Clyde days, but I would say their demise is the best example of what we're agreeing is illegal for the gov to do.  In that instance there was no attempt to arrest, they just ambushed and killed them.  I suppose that happened a lot in American history up until the last few generations.  Had they had UAV technology back then I don't believe dropping a hellfire on their car would have been any different than gunning them down in an ambush.  UAVs aren't what scare me here.  It is just another platform.  The day that Holder says that a UAV can be used to TARGET a suspect we'll be having a different conversation, but he hasn't said that.  My interpretation was that he could use a UAV just like any other military platform in an extreme case.

  Well the point I was making was that a scenario existed in recent history where the President would have ordered a military type strike on US soil to prevent catastrophic civilian casualties.  I don't think any reasonable person would disagree that taking out one of those airliners that day would have been justified.  There was clearly no other option available to stop that attack.  Of course, had Bush shot one down then everybody would be bitching about how he was a murdering baby killer although he would have saved countless lives.    I think that was the opinion Holder was rendering, and that is much different than a kinetic strike against someone suspected of committing a crime in lieu of arresting them.

  Not that hard to track someone down.  I am the original owner of about 1/3 of my firearms, so if I was to sell any of them and they were used later in a crime, investigators can simply get the shipment records from the manufacturer, visit the FFL who had it originally shipped and see who bought it.  For the other 2/3 of my firearms they'd have a hard time tracking me down if the person I bought it from didn't keep a record of it, which I suspect is the case with most folks I've bought from.  Sounds like basic police work to try to track down the history of a firearm used in a crime.  I'm sure those are dead ends much of the time, but they would be derelict not to try.

Are you paying current market prices on that .22 LR? If not, where's the hook up?

I'm actually going to be down in the St Pete area here in a few weeks and will be doing some shooting with some local Popo. I think any of them would tell you that you'd be crazy not to be armed in St Pete after dark.

And, of course, this has nothing to do with conducting an actual kinetic strike on US soil against a suspect. Not that it would matter what means were used to purposefully kill a suspect as opposed to attempting to make an arrest, whether it be a hellfire or a sniper rifle. But since it was mentioned, police kill dozens of suspects each year in hostage standoffs as the suspect is posing a clear threat to hostages, so I guess if there was some crazy scenario where a hellfire could be used without causing collateral damage I don't see the difference.... the end result is still the same. Once again, all moot since there are no armed UAVs deployed in the US.