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Yeah, perhaps a lot of things are selective. I guess if this armed thug hadn't committed a crime, but instead was wearing a hoodie and looking suspicious the actions of the manager following him would have been okay in your book.

I vote trigger squeeze (or pull/jerk). Even if the sights were completely cocked over to one side it shouldn't be that far off. I'm assuming they're lined up with the barrel though. Every time I've seen this it has been a fundamentals of marksmanship issue, not the firearm.

Still somehow less damaging than taking away a persons ability to communicate for important reasons. If I owned a sports bar I'd be pissed about someone messing with my money though. The amount of rage felt when I have my kid on the phone trying to spit out his first word as some idiot drives by who forgot to turn their jammer off is off the charts. To think of someone doing it on purpose would certainly elicit a dramatic response.

You're assuming people would only use something like this intermittently. There are the type of people out there that buy these simply for the fun of screwing with people. That isn't cool at all. When someone cuts off my conversation on the phone their either costing me money or an important call with the family. There are those type of people who would just turn one on to screw with neighbors, or people at a coffee shop. All fun and games until there's an emergency. Sure, most people's calls are not crucial, but that doesn't mean some aren't. I get a little pissy about this after having been in an environment full of jammers and you only get to talk to your wife and child on a once a week basis. Let me tell you, when some jackass wants to be cute by kicking on their jammer to screw with people I could easily justify kicking them off the planet.

Folks who get caught doing it should be nailed to the wall though. That is akin to cutting a person's phone line.

I'm guessing that the global device the employer had in the car was installed someplace that he couldn't get without tearing apart some stuff.

  You're right, I was just going off of the description from the story that they were running away.  For all we know one of them had a firearm and pointed it at him while they were fleeing.  Personally, I don't care.  The only part of this story that pisses me off is the fact that these theives lived.

  Purty much.  Now, consider that those jammers were stepping on HF radios transmitting at 50 watts with no problem.  How on earth would anyone think that the super weak signal going to your GPS couldn't be jammed by a $100 device off Amazon?  Think about how well your GPS works indoors without clear view of the sky.

  Well for this guy I'm sure he won't be using one again.  As for terrorists you make a good point.  Of course, the jammer in this case targeted the GPS freq, so the only thing he was jamming would be the ability for a GPS antenna to take a sample and tell where it is on the Earth.  Certainly that's important for aircraft, but not life/death.  I'm sure his punishment would be way more severe if he was jamming radio traffic, such as the tower communicating with aircraft.    I will say that the technology is dangerous in bad guys' hands.  For example, many security systems, mine included, are GSM as opposed to hard wired through the phone line.  I guess that is to prevent someone from cutting the commo lines for the alarm from the outside of the house.  Of course, this can be defeated with an illegal cell phone jammer.  If I was a bad guy I'd be running one for sure.   As for aircraft, I guess a bad guy could sneak some sort of jammer on to an aircraft, but it would have to jam so many different freqs to prevent that aircraft from communicating with its satellite based tracking system, radios and cell phones.  That would also require knowing the freqs the aircraft communicates on.  It isn't impossible, but improbable for the bad guys to use that for terrorism in flight.  As for on the ground, as we've seen here it appears that airports have organic means to determine the source of a jammer.  That probably isn't the only place the gov has that technology, especially since the tech for determining the source is old tech and every agency and military organization has some sort of capability to do that.

  Well, a lotta people around that tended to get all spun up when you start shootin stuff.  Them Iraqis are a trigger happy bunch, so I avoided letting one go as much as possible to prevent those guys from turning into a death blossom.  Besides, it became a man thing when he came after me a second time.  Would seem very fair to shoot him, but I did whoop its ass.

  The mall was posted though.  He had a pistol in the mall and in the parking lot.  His business is only the small area he leases within the mall, which means he would have to break the law in order to get to his business or to leave it with a firearm, not to mention the undeniable proof that he had possession of the firearm whilst chasing the punks and shooting at them.... all on posted property.

Once again, racist liberals who believe black Americans have a monopoly on dressing thuggish or that no black person has the ability or inclination to dress like a productive member of society.  I'm a pretty angry cracker, but if I was black I'd probably have had an aneurysm by now at all this nonsense.  Why do liberals think that all black people dress like thugs?

  Not much one can do to combat someone jamming a frequency.  As far as I know satellites only transmit on a couple of frequencies between civilian and military GPS, and that is all open source.  From what I recall working with jammers that were jamming even the frequency we communicated on was still complex.  Now you consider someone jamming a weak signal from a satellite on a freq that is known to anyone with access to Google; doesn't sound like it's too hard for a $100 device to do that with no real ability to stop it, other than determining the source, charging them with a felony and fining them $32k. 

  The article said it was a jammer designed to interfere with GPS frequencies, which are pretty specific.  I don't know what they use on aircraft, whether it be the civilian or military frequency, but I thought that it's only a couple of different freqs they receive on from the satellite. 

I'm not saying it isn't annoying when folks do that, but people who think they should be able to jam a cell frequency are pretty selfish not to consider that other people have that as a primary means of communication for emergencies. God forbid someone nearby want to call 911. God forbid someone tries to contact you due to an emergency with your child. Jammers don't jam individual phones; they jam everything on that frequency, and for a good amount of distance.

Carrying a gun doesn't infringe on another person's rights. Denying them the ability to use their own property does. As annoying as cell phone users are in a movie, the theater makes that policy and enforces it, not you. I rarely get to go to movies, but when we get a babysitter and go out, I have my phone on vibrate in case of an emergency at home. What a dick move for someone to be so self important to think they should block any ability for me to receive communications.

Well that's just silly to call this "moaning". People bitch about overpriced businesses all the time. There are a few gun shops I see folks post about here frequently who complain about over pricing for various things. The difference here is that there are a few people controlling the stock for the many. The same as if a gun shop moved into an area with no competition and jacked their prices sky high. Sure, that's their right to do and there are people out there dumb enough to patronize them, but it won't stop people like me from calling them out and directing people to a cheaper alternative and boycott those businesses. Just as it is their right to price how they want, it's my right to call them POS's with no ethical standards. Capitalism goes both ways. You can sell your AR for $3,000 during a panic, but I'll remember that and remind people of that down the road when things get back to normal. Goes both ways.

I learned never to turn your back on a ram. I had one take me out in Iraq and come back for more. I had to grab that bastard by the horns and straddle him to control him, then commenced to kicking his ass with my free hand and the son if a bitch still came after me when I let him go. Had to drag him into a house and shut it in a room.

I've see this discussed in other threads where folks have stated the desire for one of these to use. Well here is a guy that did and is going to pay, big time. The gist is this guy drives a limo and ran a jammer so his boss couldn't track him. It may only jam frequencies that a GPS antenna runs on, but there is a good chance it jams cell phones too. So keep that in mind; if it was strong enough to affect aircraft operations at an airport, it's strong enough to keep you from contacting 911 in an emergency (if it jams that frequency). N.J. Man In A Jam, After Illegal GPS Device Interferes With Newark Airport « CBS New York http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/08/09/n-j-man-in-a-jam-after-illegal-gps-device-interferes-with-newark-liberty-operations/

If he gets charged for carrying at a posted business it will not have any bearing on someone who carries past a posting. In this case there are aggravating circumstances, just like other folks who have been charged so far. I've yet to see a story where someone simply carried past a posting and was charged. There's always more to the story and other laws broken.

What I find amusing about all this "free market" support for the few people who are choking off the supply and selling for 5 times the cost, is that many of these people supporting that are the same people I've seen chime in on threads about how evil Walmart is and how they refuse to shop there. Funny when you consider that they are providing some of the lowest prices on .22, but they are still evil, but the ahol that cleans out all the .22 at my store and resells it for 5 times the cost is a hero of the free market.

Somebody will pay it, that's the crazy part. Even crazier is the fact that if everyone just stopped paying stupid prices everything would go back to normal.

This makes me think of the dozens of establishments in Clarksville that whites aren't allowed in. No, there isn't any sign saying so, but I know my cracker a$$ ain't welcome, and I'm cool with that for several reasons.

Well, the bright side is that I know I'm not the only one keeping my eye on Hadj when I get on the plane. History has proven that ordinary passengers are more likely to interdict an attack as opposed to TSA stopping it.

"Snitches get stitches." I don't think this was a case of "crackers get stitches." Of course, if the races were reversed, this would be hate crime. The term "hate crime" should be retired.