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Well there are about a thousand way to mobility kill those things. I naturally assumed a .50 was in anti-armor territory as opposed to stopping the engine, so that is why I made the assumption. If I was in the market to arm up for this supposed take over by FEMA and lizard people, I wouldn't be wasting 5k on a rifle to defeat something that I could otherwise defeat with $1.50 of materials and a little ingenuity. Hadj comes up with new ways to take these out all the time, sometimes never involving explosives or any other weaponry.

Stuff like this worries me and I'll tell ya why. Us crackers tend to identify with our fore fathers more than anyone else, and by "crackers" I'm referring to us gun toting, Constitution loving conservatives. We don't have a problem taking matters into our own hands if need be. We don't look to others for help to solve our problems. The concern is for those of us crackers that see this purely as a race thing, just as much as it is a concern of mine for the black people who see this as a race thing. It is a prescription for disaster, but I couldn't classify it as a "race war" since the term itself implies that all members of the races would be active participants. I look at it as an ignorance war, which very well could happen, and could subsequently pull in the more moderate people who feel like they don't have a choice. I think the problem is all this racially charged talk and finger pointing by the fringe who are hoping this will happen, and it very well could. The scenario that worries me is another Trayvon type incident which sparks widespread attacks on whites I which one of those attacks results in a pile of bodies, which fuels a backlash we haven't seen before, followed by more bodies. That is how it starts in all these third world countries, and spirals out of control due to exponential ignorance. What folks on both sides of the race baiting aisle need to do is to take a step back, realize that it is not about race, it is about ignorant people doing ignorant things. But I don't think that's what they want. I think the fringe want exactly the thing they predict.. like a self fulfilling prophecy. So, when I see folks peddling racial discontent I am suspicious of their motives. I believe they want conflict. Hard to believe anyone would want that for their kids.

I've heard the argument made before as to why the use if chemical weapons draws such a reaction from the international community rather than conventional munitions. I wish I could articulate it, as it was a compelling argument, but it signifies a change in the game. I think we'll be drawn into this by the international community due to our tech. I see us taking the Clinton approach by launching a few tomahawks and calling it a victory to appease the Europeans and the Gulf states. That's about as clean as I see us coming out of this. Worse case we conduct any incursions into Syria by foot or air. Once we do that it turns into a Chinese finger trap.

Brother, I have shot every type of armor with just about every type of round you can imagine. Ball .50 ain't makin it through that armor. Maybe a SLAP round, but that is about it, and that is even questionable.

Now I have "Take it on the Run" stuck in my head.

[quote name="Chucktshoes" post="1021130" timestamp="1377427813"] That just makes me think of Nirvana lyrics (In Bloom).[/quote] Good catch. I wish I didn't like RATM so much, but they're like an angry version of the Beastie Boys. It makes meat eaters want to kill things more.

That email looks totally legit.

Ya know, I got into a conversation with someone the other day and revealed a few of my libertarian leaning ideas and was called "one of those Ron Paul lunatics" and I'm all like "how are people who believe in the basic principles of liberty lunatics?" Then I get a link to that site.....

This is where I make a tin foil joke.

The point I'm getting at isn't that she has her opinions, it's how she expressed them, then how she acted like a spoiled little **** when folks got upset about it. No matter how you slice it, when you give money to her you are paying for the podium for her to speak. While that may not bother you, even if you disagreed with her, it bothers some folks and they choose not to contribute to her campaign of idiocy. Her reaction to people making that distinction and choice was to then accuse them of trying to silence her right to speak freely. That is what makes me more mad than anything, and why I feel like she is a worthless oxygen thief.

  Ha, well I knew where you would stand on this.

If Obama's imaginary red line hasn't been crossed yet then the criteria must involve the use of nukes.  So the question is, do we have any moral obligation to intervene when atrocities like this are taking place?  Should we even have a red line to begin with or should we stay out of it no matter what?

    On second thought, I listen to Rage Against the Machine almost daily, so I suppose I don't have any credibility when it comes to boycotting musicians who use their music to push a political agenda that I strongly disagree with.  I'll justify it by saying that a lot of bad guys who RATM defend met their grisly end shortly after US military doorkicker types got hopped up on their music.  Oh the irony.

  I have Allen West and Herman Cain on my FB feed.  Their opinions on this are just as strong as mine; perhaps more so.    It doesn't mean much to me either way though.  The only difference between them and I are skin color and life experiences.  It sucks that they either lose or gain credibility on a subject because of their skin color; it is one of the things about society that bugs the hell out of me.  As in, Herman Cain condemns the actions "as a black man" in the eyes of most Americans, which we somehow prop up above the opinions of a white man on the subject.    I get why that happens, it just bugs me that we do that.  I'm pretty sure that when Herman Cain condemns a horrible murder it is because he simply recognizes that it is horrible; not because he is ashamed that he shares the same skin color.  His skin color doesn't make him an expert any more than you or I.  It does, however, cause him to lose credibility to certain personalities on the left who brand him as an Uncle Tom or race traitor, while it gives him credibility on the right as a black man taking a stand against racists of his own race.  In a perfect world we would just see that he is a man, with certain beliefs that you either agree or disagree with.  The reason we will never be there is because folks speak and think in generalities, and there is no better way to identify than what is most easily identifiable; skin color. 

  I think you still misunderstand what I'm saying.  The onus is not on black people to explain or condemn the actions of other black people.  If I was a black person I probably wouldn't hold any stronger opinion about this crime than a white person would.  So I guess I wouldn't say much other than these two POS's need to be executed.    Now, if I were a black person and was asked what my opinion was "as a black person", I would make clear that the color of my skin doesn't automatically make me an expert on what another black person does.  That presumption is kinda racist.    If I was told by a white person or a black person that I needed to strongly condemn the actions or speak out against it simply because I was black I would call that very racist.  Skin color doesn't mean you have to do anything or not do anything.  We are all our own individuals.

I'm not trying to be smart, I really would like to know. I'm trying to figure out what the average black person needs to do so they aren't considered part of a problem they have nothing to do with.

So let us say that I'm a black man. What exactly would you suggest I do every time something like this happens? I need to know so I can let the black folks I work with know what they're doing wrong.

It is, and I may be too sensitive to it after experiencing Ft Bragg. I used to live off of Jack Miller many moons ago, so I went into there frequently. When I went there during lunch rush it was like any other place. When I went there during off peak times I was guaranteed to have one or two of the girls to sit with me and chat me up. Could be that it was because I was a regular, but the vibe I got always seemed like there was a business proposition on the table. Maybe it's the racist side of me coming out, that I can't be approached by young Asian women and not interpret it as prostitution. A condition of experience.

I haven't eaten there for about 10 years or so, but I had been in there a dozen or so times. It seemed their sushi was pretty generic. Nothing wrong with it, but nothing special. Certainly not in the same league as the other places with better selection and using larger cuts of meat in their sushi. Plus I think that place doubles as a brothel. When I'd go in there with my roommate the younger girls that "worked" there would come sit with us and chat us up, like the way they do in the drinky bars. Seemed to be directed by the mamasan that worked the floor. I dunno, could just be me. I've never been into the basement entrance but it looks pretty suspect.

It won't penetrate the armor of that vehicle.

Are black people obligated to speak out each time someone with their skin color murders a white person? I don't speak out every time a white person kills a black person. I'm sure the black people I know would be as appalled as any by this, but I don't expect them to preach about it any more than any other non-race related crime. If we're talking about the race baiters, like JJ and Sharpton, well of course they're not going to care. They're racists!

Kohanas has been our place lately. It is located off Wilma Rudolph near Dunbar Cave intersection. We used to love Shoguns but it has gone waaaayyyy downhill over the past 4 years. We finally gave up on the place after a bad experience about a year ago. Hananoki is probably the fanciest. I haven't gone there for a long time, but last time I went it was very good, just a little pricey. The atmosphere and all is really nice. They are located on Wilma Rudolph next to Chilis in the Lowe's complex. No need for the Clarksville hating. We don't actually have any strip clubs and all the tattoo places are on the other side of town near Ft Campbell. If we want to start throwing stones we could go round and round about the cultural Mecca of the greater Nashville area.

So this site condemns folks like Jesse Jackson, Barack Obama, Al Sharpton and blames queers for making America weak?  Sounds to me like he could join TGO and fit right in; it looks as if he strongly condones gun ownership!   Some excerpts from that site:      

  Yeah, I was pretty excited when I got that email.  Russian AK mags for just 10 bucks too.   That 300 blackout barrel was tempting.  I have an extra upper sitting around with nothing to do.  Do those go on a regular AR upper?

I don't see a problem with these being owned by large PDs or county Sheriffs.  I like the idea that officers have complete ballistic protection moving up to a target, such as a building during an armed standoff.  Could it be abused?  Well of course.  Lots of stuff can be abused.  I would say the power to arrest you and throw you in jail is much more scary than a rolling bullet/fire magnet which the department will use once a year.  Meanwhile, those crazy bastards are out throwing people in jail.... every day!!!   I can understand why smaller departments having this is silly, but if they don't have any departments in the region with that capability I could understand that.  Cops have inherently dangerous jobs, and I don't mind them having the tools needed to keep them safe, so long as they aren't violating anyone's rights or laws while doing so.  Having a scary vehicle isn't violating anyone's rights.  But yes, they could abuse it, use it incorrectly in order to justify it's existence or crash it into a preschool due to poor training.  Yes, those things could happen.  A citizen could also take his AR15 down to the local elementary school and kill two dozen children.  I don't condone taking everyone's AR15s away just because it "might" be used incorrectly.   If anyone in the tin foil hat crowd is worried about these being used to subject the population under Obama once he suspends free elections, declares martial law, throws half the population into FEMA camps all for the sake of his master Lucifer who commands that all be done in the name of the New World Order military industrial complex Free Mason Illuminati Super-Drone Skynet, then fear not.  You can destroy these with fire.  They have big flammable tires and a poor fire suppression system.  They can be defeated by a water bottle filled with laundry soap and gasoline.