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My wife is the same way. She thinks its the nastiest stuff ever... I just don't get it. They're awesome. Especially about 15 years ago many of the roadside vendors would make Cajun boiled peanuts as well as the regular. But then again, she thinks sweet tea and grits are gross too.

Meh, my dogs stay in my room anyway. Not that it matters, since I HAVE to intervene since my kids' rooms are on the other side of the house, so barricading myself and letting my kids deal with the armed intruders on their own is not an option. If someone comes into my house they are going to be carried out.

I think it's a conspiracy to make Obama not look weak and stupid. They failed.

[quote name="sigmtnman" post="1026328" timestamp="1378234178"] mmm,,, boiled peanuts.[/quote] I thought it was weird when I moved to TN that you can't find them anywhere. In Florida there's a roadside stand every 10 ft. I used to love riding with grandpa cause he'd always stop and get a few cups when we passed one.

Yep, I wouldn't leave my pets to the whim of an intruder. Once again, I don't have a choice but to engage an intruder since I have kids in the house, but if it were the dogs I would certainly intervene for their well being. I value the lives of my dogs over the lives of a person who invades my home.

Ha, when I'd deploy to Iraq my mom would send me instant grits in packages, along with canned boiled peanuts.... a staple in that part of Florida.

Eggs with ham, onions, peppers covered in grits.

  Ah, the land of the Zephrs.  My parents went to Hudson High; dad played baseball/football there.  The family has been in that area for almost 100 years.  It has changed quite a bit since I was a kid... Spring Hill and Port Richey have near swallowed it up.

Sounds like Hudson area. My family still has a cattle ranch there. Been there for half a century. Before that a dairy farm.

Didn't Wanda eventually let him bang her? I remember she was flipping out one season because of the emergency appendectomy he performed on her where he saw her lady parts, but she got over that.

Mount Dora is a very nice community. I'm from Umatilla, which is a cow town up on the south edge of the forest. Clermont isn't much like Lake Co anymore; it was swallowed by Otown a while back. As soon as you leave the urban sprawl of the cities it is rural as its ever been. The coasts have been taken over, but everything N of Orlando is as neckbone as it gets. Every time I go back there's new construction, but the people are as they always have been; small town and good values. It's the damned transplant Yankees that come down and eff up the demographics and vote blue.

  Hey now, NPH is a bad mofo in that series. 

Randy Weaver never once fired a shot. Neither did his surviving children or his wife. Issuing a warrant for the arrest of a person who didn't show up to court on a date that he wasn't told to show up on, then executing that warrant with armed commandos running around the property is not the preferred technique, especially when there is zero evidence regarding the original charge other than the testimony of an incredibly unreliable convict who was tasked to entrap a man on a BS law in the first place. It was still never proven that he ever shortened any shotgun barrel, which I don't believe he did. But if he had, how can anyone with an ounce of reason see this as an acceptable response. He was getting railroaded so he told the Feds to pound sand, and the end result was a dead son and wife, yet it was Randy Weaver who was supposed to have the level head here? Not our public servants?

You live in Orlando. Take your but 30 minutes north into Lake County and get back to me. My home town just got its second traffic light two months ago.

That is simply not true. There's more rednecks in Florida than Tennessee; I can bet you that for sure. Orlando, Tampa and Miami don't define the state, they just provide a perception to outsiders who only go there to see Mickey Mouse, beaches and Margaritaville.

I started when I was 4 on a pump .22. My son is the age that I was when I started, but I don't believe his maturity level is there where he can delineate between firearms as an adult tool that he can use under supervision only. He experience so far with firearms is that he can identify them and know not to touch them, and to go find an adult if he sees one that is left unsecured. I don't want to send mixed messages that he isn't mature enough to interpret properly. Maybe some have kids that young who can, but not me. Looking back, none of that was put into context for me at that age. I just knew that I'd get into a lot of trouble if I handled a firearm without supervision, but I didn't have it explained to me why. I think kids need to be old enough to understand "why" before they handle firearms.

That isn't the cost of labor, that is the cost of government intervention!

Labor is not the cost driving domestic prices. Haven't you read any of the responses to your assertions?

Who wears jackboots any more?

Yes, of course it's an ongoing criminal act. So is possession of illegal narcotics. Am I open to be stopped and questioned against my will under threat of arrest if I don't answer said questions pertaining to possession of said illegal narcotics even if there is no PC to suggest I may be carrying those illegal narcotics? It doesn't pass the sniff test. I'm not saying this as an advocate for drunk rights. I could care less. I think if a drunk kills a person with their car they should be put to death. It doesn't get much more extreme than that. I only care about the Constitution. If it means people will die if we don't bend the Constitution I'm okay with that. And before we get into the emotional aspect, such as "you wouldn't say that if it was your wife or kid" lets just not go there. No one knows what I would do or think better than myself. Now, I say this with the caveat that I feel more strongly about the fact Victoria's Secret airbrushes out the nipples in their catalog than I do about DUI checkpoints. I don't think it is such a big issue that I am some kind of activist about it. I just look at it from the perspective of being unconstitutional based on a simple understanding of our rights, and not significant enough in the cost-benefit analysis to justify such a slight on the 4A. If I happen to get stopped and questioned at a DUI checkpoint I won't be playing roadside lawyer. I will cooperate. I'll just believe that it's bullcrap while I do it.

Someone has to be the contrarian. But seriously, the actions of the gov on this one are so indefensible and tragic that Randy Weaver could have blown up the side of the mountain, burying the entire task force and still walked away justified in doing so. I say that with all the sympathies to the LE and troops that were there and the understanding that their actions were arguably justified in the moment based on what information they had. There is a small handful of people that really, really needed to be thrown in the clink for that one; Randy Weaver wasn't one of them.

Both it seems. Being secure in one's papers is part of it as well. I don't agree that questioning, or at least answering questions, is compulsory if no crime is suspected of being committed or observed. Traffic stops are different because the driver has broken the law by speeding or some such offense. If I'm just driving to my house and have not committed any crime nor am I suspected of committing any crime to the point of there existing PC, I don't see why I am forced to hand over my papers or answer any questions. It doesn't jive with the 4A. It is like a cop stopping and questioning a person to see if they murdered someone even though there is no evidence a murder took place nor is there any reason to suspect the person of committing murder. Your justification for this tactic at checkpoints is that there are people out there who drive drunk, and therefore it justifies these slights on the 4A. Well there are people out there who murder too.

Absolutely. I live in Clarksville, so I've seen this first hand. I've heard stories about government corruption and cronyism in regard to business, but to see it so clearly how it plays out here is sick. It certainly is more complicated than what can be summed up in a couple of sentences, but it all stems from too large of government and not enough oversight.... oh, and really stupid voters.

Your missing my point regarding the 4th Amendment. Fundamentally we disagree what it means.

Oh boy.