TMF

  Thanks for representing.   I lost a similar challenge to a bunch of South Africans years back.  Those are some big boys though and they like to drink. 

  Well I think that could be said of any industry.  We have a lot of industry in Clarksville.  If suddenly the city decides to tax local manufacturers to the point they relocate, is it the fault of the factory workers?  I'm not saying that I think there needs to be any bailout or continuation of stupid spending for the sake of private service industry jobs in the DC area, I just have no animosity towards those people.  They aren't at all part of the problem.  If they lose their job, well that's life, and it sucks.  But man, I do feel bad for them.

  By all accounts this man did stop.  He only fled when his vehicle was being attacked by bikers.  I realize it is difficult to see on the tape, but it happened based on the story and witness account.  He very well may have stayed to do the legally right thing until he was attacked.  However, they aggressed him and he tried to flee.  Not really many options in that scenario, especially when you have a defenseless child and wife.  They likely did call 911 during the pursuit, the cops just didn't get there in time.  His only mistake was getting off the interstate, but perhaps he was trying to make it to a police precinct.   I don't know if you have children or not, but if you do, I'd like you to remember having a two year old.  Now imagine your two year old in the back seat of a vehicle that is being assaulted from all sides by a mob of criminal bikers that have shut off all avenues of escape.  If you don't have a child I don't know how you could possibly understand the dire situation this guy was in.

  For me it occurred when me and my buddy beat the crap out of a bully from the 8th grade while we were in 6th grade.  Turned out he was just a little biatch that happened to be bigger than us.  My buddy snapped one day and hit him so I joined in.  He cried.  Maybe I did too.  I remember being so angry but having tears coming out at the same time.  I learned a lot from that incident.  Then I went to war and fought a cowardly enemy that did the same thing; real tough when they had the upper hand but cried like women when they were facing their own death.

Another article on this pulled from The Drudge. The victim here was not only severely beaten but also stabbed in the face. Looks like he had every reason to fear for his life when he fled in the beginning. These biker douches should be systematically exterminated like vermin. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/pack-motorcyclists-chase-man-suv-attack-upper-manhattan-street-fender-bender-west-side-highway-article-1.1471585

I agree, I just sympathize with anyone losing their job. It sucks. I can't hold them accountable for what the gov does.

I'm not surprised. In a situation like he was in he had three options: fight, flight or submit. When in that situation instincts take over your decision making, especially if you haven't been in such life threatening situations before. Obviously, fight was not an option due to being outnumbered, so he originally fled when first attacked. The reason he didnt use his vehicle as a weapon while in the road is because his victim mentality reasoned not to further provoke his attackers and just get away. Once he was cornered he probably felt as if he couldn't get away and chose to submit. He got beat badly for it, and luckily his wife and kid, who were terrorized did not get beaten as well. There are few alpha personalities out there who would have taken a more aggressive stance toward this assault. I have a "meet violence with superior violence mentality" as I believe it is a more effective deterrent than running or submitting. The reason I believe this is because the majority of criminals are really cowards at heart, and will respond to superior violence by backing down. Whatever it is they want isn't worth death or great bodily injury, however, I'm more than willing to kill someone or greatly injure them in order to protect myself or my family. Conversely, running away only emboldens your attacker to be more aggressive, in the same way running away from a dog will embolden it to attack you, but when you turn and face it the dog will stay at a safe distance. Submitting can either embolden or dissuade an attacker. Really weak people will react to total submission of another with greater violence because it is their opportunity to do something they normally don't get to do; wield their power over another human being. It could also dissuade a person who has no drive to simply power over another, such as robbers who just want money. At any rate, choosing to submit puts all the power in your attacker's hands, and I'm not willing to give them the power of choosing my fate or the fate of my family and hoping I come out okay. Being predisposed to commit limitless violence in defense of yourself puts you in a different category than the vast majority of your fellow Americans. Unfortunately, the odds are against these cowards ever coming face to face with people who won't tolerate this.

Just watched this again and now I'm all worked up. One of the things that will get me spitting angry is a group of people picking on the perceived weak. They do it because they can. Mobs need to suffer the great equalizer of standard capacity magazines, then lets see how strong they are.

I don't think it's so linear though. In DC there are honest folks like you and I who work just like anywhere else. The only difference is the clientele works for the gov. I can't blame a person who washes dishes or sells insurance in DC just because they live there. I don't think that should be a deciding factor when it comes to the size of our government, but I certainly empathize with their situation. Not getting paid sucks, especially when you're doing honest work. The dishonest work our gov is up to doesn't involve the person changing oil on the beltway.

If there were a couple hundred of violent gangsters surrounding your vehicle with your wife and small child inside what would you do? Just sit there and hope they only kill you? I take my role as husband and father very seriously. I assume this guy did too. The motorist did nothing wrong. He was intentionally brake checked by one of the bikers and subsequently attacked. He only tried to get away for the safety of his family. What exactly was his "bad decision"?

I think it's an oversimplification to find the maid at the local hotel culpable in the actions of an overreaching government. I don't think that economy should be a deciding factor when it comes to government shutdown, but I also empathize with workers who are hit hard because of it.

It wasn't a hit and run though. They intentionally stopped traffic in order to immobilize that RR for whatever reason. He rear ends the bike in the beginning because the bike locked up his brakes in order to stop the RR. Then they surrounded him and attempted some street justice for whatever reason, so he ran one of them the hell over to escape. As far as rounds go, you don't need 200 rds to take care of a crowd of 200 gang members. Really you just need to kill the most aggressive one. Their cowards, which is why they need to roam in packs. Kill the pack leader and they'll look to save themselves. Just look at any video of a shooting in which an armed citizen takes on multiple armed attackers. You'll find very few, if any, where the bad guys stay and duke it out, even with superior numbers. My AK would have started barking at the beginning of this video, and I can bet that even if every last one of them was armed none of them would have the nuts to shoot back. You'd see nothing but a**holes and elbows.

They original surrounded his vehicle and attempted to pull him out. That's why he ran them over. When 200 people are about to have their way with you, there is nothing AT ALL the victim can do wrong. He could have killed every last one of those wannabe biker douches and still been in the right. IMO, he should have been taking them out once he got back up to highway speed, and stayed in the highway until the cops showed up. If a gang surrounds me, on bikes otherwise, and make hostile intentions known I am indeed in fear for my life. Whatever their beef was, I'd make sure to them it wasn't worth it to f*** with me.

It's funny because algebra, or al gebra, is an Arabic word. That's where algebra came from.

Yeah, when I'm on the interstate I usually go only 5 over. If I'm passing I'll have some idiot come up on me and ride my bumper, so once I move over and continue my speed the person who was riding my bumper then matches my speed or even slows down once they get further up the road. Drives me nuts.

This is also part of it.

There are more roads than just the interstate. I deal with tailgaters when I'm in a mile long line of traffic down a two lane road. Tailgaters are the worse douchebags on the road. It has nothing to do with being in the proper lane.

Remotely detonated incendiary. I only left out two ingredients for it. Tires burn. This is why it's so poor for a war vehicle. That and how easy it is to knock one over with a lower order pushing charge like anfo or an/al, which both can still be made with legally bought supplies from anyone. So, if the time comes that martial law is declared and the lizard people have completely taken over the government, these won't be what's used against us. There is an entire military arsenal with better stuff.

Huh, that's odd. Must be some agreement between the gov and them I guess?

Yeah, it seems like I always have my kids in the truck though. I had one tailgating me hard on Kraft St one day when I was driving by myself (in a line of traffic behind the gravel trucks, so im not sure what this guy wanted me to do... gravitate or something?) and I came close to letting him eat my bumper, but there was so much traffic behind him I was worried about starting a chain reaction.

This is exactly what I do. It seems people drive like maniacs all over Clarksville now. Used to be that was only on 41A. Now I got some Vin Diesel wannabe up my rear every where I go. One of these days one of them is going to be buying me a shiny new bumper.

I hear ya. Aggressive drivers only act that way because no one has yanked them out of their car and beat the snot out of them on the shoulder of the road, yet.

For the military, no. They work without pay if they get affected and get an IOU. Not likely that it will happen, but if it does every last politician should be tossed into a volcano. Every last one of them.

Wonder what the final tally on these will be.

Based on the short clip the pilot is talking with the ground forces that are partnered with the CLCs in reference to their location and mentions a medevac for the guys involved. The extended version makes it more obvious, but if you rewatch the clip it should be fairly clear what's going on. Seemed to me I made it clear though, who they are and what they were doing.