QuietDan

It's all starting to follow the Watergate scenario: House Committee To Subpoena Holder In 'Fast And Furious' Probe | Fox News This is not the end, it is not even the beginning of the end, it is, however, the end of the beginning. (Apologies to Winston Churchill)

You don't have to buy them ALL up. All you need is a controlling interest, and that could be as little as 10 or 20 percent, and you don't have to own the whole 10 or 20 percent, but control investors that have that much. I'm not a financial guy, but that I think is the bare outline of what happens. Some of the financial guys can fill in the blanks. I'm pretty sure I'm not far wrong, but I wouldn't mind being educated.

Soros went private with his investment fund to avoid taxes and avoid scrutiny.

In the long history of arms traffickers, they have been know to foment unrest, chaos, rebellion and civil war -- and then sell weapons to all sides in the conflicts, for a profit. Soros is more than evil enough to do this.

Thank you and to play devil's devil's advocate (whew!), I would say that "authorized" would be accomplished or pronounced by an "authority," that is, a government. Otherwise the sign would have to say "no un-approved" or "no un-managed" weapons, which would be weird. As suggested by vontar and others, since the langauge is nowhere near official, they couldn't get a clean bust on you, they would only be able to ask you to leave. And, in these times especially, what business is going to run off customers that are otherwise not causing trouble?

IMO, "No unauthorized weapons" is code-language to concealed carriers as my weapon is "authorized" by my HCP. Of course, the business always has the right to ask you to leave if you're acting the badass and scaring other customers. Therefore, I wouldn't go strutting in OC, but I will go in CC. This comforts the sheep customers who are afraid of guns, yet doesn't exclude the sheep-dog customers who carry.

Obama: 'Complete confidence' in Holder - The Hill's Blog Briefing Room Obama expresses "complete confidence" in Holder. The Kiss of Death! AG Holder's reign is almost at an end.

Link is working: The Ulsterman Report – White House Insider: Obama

Suggestions that a reporter on the "Fast and Furious" beat is being muzzled by the White House placing pressure on her organization: Is CBS News Silencing Fast and Furious Reporter? | The Weekly Standard

Suggestions that a reporter on the "Fast and Furious" beat is being muzzled by the White House placing pressure on her organization: Is CBS News Silencing Fast and Furious Reporter? | The Weekly Standard

I'm thinking that Memphis' high numbers drags the rest of the state up.

Here's something to read; take it with a grain of salt. This UlstermanReport has a long list of other items as well. Don't know whether or not to put a lot of stock in the observations. The Ulsterman Report – White House Insider: Obama At the end, references the House Judiciary call for Special Counsel for Attorney General Holder and Operation Fast and Furious. "We got trouble, right here in River City . . . "

Regarding alleged lies by Attorney General Holder and a call for a Special Counsel by the House Judiciary Committee: The Ulsterman Report – House Judiciary Letter Requesting Special Counsel Investigate Obama Attorney General Eric Holder - The Ulsterman Report and here's a related report: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/04/house-republicans-to-request-special-counsel-to-probe-holder-on-fast-and/

Bless you Brian Haas and let's make a distinction. No editor worth spit would ever tell a writer what to Write, but they spend all day telling writers what to Write About. They won't tell you what path to take, but they will tell you to go North. If you then go East, they often say, "that's not the story," or "that's not what I'm looking for." At least, just about every editor I've ever run across. With the sheer volume of comments on your story, you've touched a live wire, I think. That gives you independent data for your editor to mull over. I'm thinking the editor would want to commission stories that people are interested in, enough to buy a newspaper or take out a subscription. I would hope that the interest in the story would be sufficient motivation for your editor(s) to give you additional assignments and additional resources to write on the topic. Hey, job security, maybe a little, in a profession that has become increasing insecure in the last ten years. Thank you for giving your readers your best.

I'm actually pretty impressed with the level of knowledge and the dialog on this forum. Read the comments on the Tennessean's website after Brias Haas' story. When you filter out the lunatics, which are legion, almost every point of Brian's story that is being challenged was DISCUSSED HERE FIRST, in some detail. Therefore, I'm thinking it's a good use of Brian Haas' time to dialog with TGO prior to finalizing one of his gun-oriented stories. We, in my opinion, did point out some of the pitfalls he might face. The Tennessean cuts his paycheck, so clearly he's not going to badmouth management at the Tennessean, but these stories don't get assigned out of Haas' fevered mind. They are assignments from his EDITOR, and unless he's living in a different editorial universe that I'm not familiar with, the editor thinks he knows what the story is before he assigns it. The editor also controls the timeline. If the editor has an agenda, even if the writer does not, it permeates the story. I think Brian Haas did a good story within the constraints established by his editor. The sheer volume of comments after his story, and the number of folks just not buying into the story's premise, may suggest to the editor(s) to look into the larger story from a different perspective and give the writer sufficient time to dig into it. Or not, at the risk of their diminishing penetration into and credibility in the market-place. After a while, no one pays to read the blather that gets pumped out. That irritates the advertisers, and the newsroom shrinks. Clearly, despite political pressure and political reluctance from the various Tennessee cities, we need to look into the gun crime statistics for the cities, geographically and demographically. The politicians would then see facts that they clearly don't want to see -- and don't want us common citizens to see. A really good newspaper would blast right through the reluctance and the dithering of the political class. If Nashville's Tennessean, in conjunction with Memphis' Commercial Appeal and other major newspapers in the state, were to dig into this and not let go, they would serve Tennessee well. Otherwise, we'll all do it ourselves over the internet, and the newspapers will become more irrelevant than they've already become.

Brian Haas' story: Tennessee gun crime rate is among highest | The Tennessean | tennessean.com Should this also be posted as the start of a new thread? Just asking. . . .

It's been my experience in other states that when they aggregate crime data at the state level, the political class does NOT want to break it out by city. Affects tourism and business interests, you know. When the political class doesn't want something, it seems to me one more reason to do it.

Thank you very much for your honest and straightforward answers. Regarding the last question: You answer it by not answering it. And I appreciate it. Again, good luck with your story. I sure hope you get to work the Memphis angle in. I'm pretty sure my town, and Nashville as a whole, doesn't want to be Memphis, widely perceived as out of control dangerous. I wish the stats broke it down to back up or refute the perception.

Just a couple of quick thoughts here: First, this is for TOMORROW's newspaper? Not a lot of time to turn a statistics heavy story, is it? Does someone up the editorial chain have a foregone conclusion they expect? In the statistics you have access to, can you divide out the felons illegally in possession from law abiding citizens possessing firearms? If the criminal element is committing a lot of crimes with firearms, it might seem to argue for more liberal rules for law-abiding citizens wishing to protect themselves with firearms. Wouldn't that be contrary to your newspaper's editorial position? Are they seriously going to let you print an article that might tend to contradict their editorial position? I imagine that editorial positions are not carved in stone, but really now. . . . In the statistics you have access to, are the lawful shootings separated out? That is, if a felon robs a bank claiming he has a bomb, and he is shot dead in the parking lot by an armed guard or a police officer, is that a gun crime? Also, Tennessee having it's three grand divisions and all, will you be able to separate out the statistics by West, Middle and East Tennessee? A lot of folks would think that Memphis is nearly a lost cause and it's statistics would be radically different from the other regions, more so even than urban versus rural across the state. It's all well and good that you are writing a story, and it's also well and good that you have a pretty good track record, but there is also the perception that the Tennessean, or even Gannett, has a generally anti-gun agenda. Do you have enough stature to report past that perception of a preconceived agenda? When does the legislative session start up again, I might ask? Nothing personal. Just business. Best of luck with your story. Unless you've been working this story for some time now, your editor hasn't left you enough time to do the issue justice, it seems to me.

I wish I knew what everyone else knows. What exactly does an "E prefix" mean on Tennessee plates?

In Iraq, I had a Galco Jackass Rig for my M9 under my body armor. It worked great and was able to easily get to my pistol under my arm. The magazine holder was set up to snap release the mags from the bottom, and every once and a while one of the snap release would catch on something and an M9 mag would go skittering across the humvee floor. Not good. I ended up putting a strip of gaffer's tape across the snap release tabs so they wouldn't catch on stuff. One solution among many. Since then, I think Galco's got the magazine holders opening to the side. Is there a XD community out there? Do they have aftermarket low rise mag releases buttons or anything? Or, an XD specific holster?? I don't think you want to put a strip of gaffers tape across the bottom of your mag and grip. . . .

Oh yeah! If he's acted the ass once, he's done it a dozen times. The company may be looking for an excuse to can him with extreme prejudice -- your call may be the one that put's him out the door!

I worked at McDonald's when I was a high school kid and still living at home. It was a great job, learned a lot, had a lot of friends, and had money in my pocket for dates, and gas in the tank. It was a great job for a kid. I imagine it's the same at WalMart. At a certain level, though, they're kids' jobs, or entry level jobs. Some folks rise to middle and even upper management and turn it into a career. But for the most part, low skilled jobs means low pay. Get an education! Develop your skills! Get a real job! If you have low skills and a low paying job, you get what you deserve. The kid at Wal-Mart who can't tell one white box of ammo from another, unless he works on it, does not have a future as even middle management at WalMart.

. . . and they're coming this way!!

Damn straight!!