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Shoot whatever you want. Just remember that you will not get stellar results with cheap ammo. For plinking and other similar stuff, the cheaper the better. Don't try and bench rest some groups though. The cool thing about getting a true 5.56 barrel is you don't have to worry about over pressured rounds from a narrow chamber or stuck cases (generally).

Colt 6920, $1074 at most WalMarts. Local shops have them in that range too.

it will however give you links to TN Codes where you can gather information. I'm talking about using google as a resource, not the end all word. It certainly beats asking a legal question on a forum like this to a bunch of unqualified people (especially me ).

Unless you're doing a Form 4 from a shop, you don't have to pay them anything. They are in no way involved in the process he's talking about. Get your lower engraved by people who know what they're doing. Orion Arms (they've done all mine) and Ident are the two big names. It is not expensive - something like $45 A trust is/can be a beneficial thing. It allows you to avoid waiting on your CLEO, paying to get fingerprints done, etc. If you are planning on getting more than 1 NFA item, you have others that you want to legally be able to have/shoot your stuff when you're not around, or you're looking to eventually pass it down to your kids, a trust is the way to go. It is initially more expensive but for me, the pros heavily outweigh the cons. Remember, the only thing that is actually an NFA item on the AR FOW is the lower receiver.

How are their prices?

I wouldn't go under 10.5 Generally, SBR's aren't done on the cheap. If thats the route you're going to take, then you will want to do it slowly and methodical. SBR's seem to have a higher incidence rate. It usually takes a little bit of work to get them running reliably. It's usually solved by playing with the buffer weight or sometimes the spring. Lately, some have been tweaking the gas port but I think that's beyond what you're wanting to mess with. For makers, your best bet is to stick with quality manufacturers. You pay for what you get. Disregard the cheap companies. They're cheap for a reason. If a company has a bad rep, it's almost always for a legitimate reason. Do your research and make sure you check reliable sources. There's a wealth of information in places like M4C.net and Arfcom. You just have to sort the wheat from the chaff. Again, you pay for what you get. You can try and nickel and dime a cheap upper but I think you're going to land yourself into some pain and frustration given your limited exposure to ARs. Look into buying a complete upper (LMT comes to mind) on the used market. Pay attention to AR15.com's Equipment Exchange. Doing so will limit trouble shooting and potential problems. For a lower, you go go two options: 1) Get a pistol lower. This will help in the fact that you can shoot your complete weapon to ensure reliability. When your stamp comes in (about a 6 month wait right now), then all you should have to do is change out the receiver extension and add a buttstock. 2) Buy a complete 16"+ rifle. Submit the F1 and enjoy your gun. You can also get your short upper. There are a couple schools of thought on doing so before the stamp. I would lean on the side of caution and store the upper at a friend/relatives house. When your stamp comes, go get the upper (or buy one) and slap it together. Having two uppers isn't a bad thing. Even though your lower is registered as an SBR, you can place the 16" upper on it and it returns it to temporary Title 1 status (if you ever take it out of state and don't feel like doing a 5320.20). 2 uppers just gives you a little bit more flexibility/options. I wouldn't worry too much about buying it for the manufacturers warranty like Gewehr is talking about. Don't disregard what he is saying though. If you're unsure of monkeying around by building a lower, then your best bet is to probably buy a complete lower. If you do end up building it, use quality parts. There are few things more frustrating than having functional issues due to cheap parts. Then you end up spending more money buying what you needed the first time. Pay attention to what Dolomite said about suppressors too. He was right about some companies not honoring a warranty with short barrels. The caveat to that is this; GOOD companies will warranty a short barrel (generally 10.3 and up). SureFire, AAC, Gemtech are a couple of those. A final thought. SBR's are pretty awesome. However, if I were you, I would be hesitant to jump head first into the NFA game. You've already sold the one AR you had and you don't seem to know them 100%. If you ever decide to sell the SBR, you're out the $200 tax stamp. Almost everyone loses money when they sell their guns (unless they're dirtbags who take advantage of people in a time of crisis - even imagined crisis like '09's debacle). That $200 is like a second punch to the stomach.

To piggyback off of Dolomite, milspec is the minimum standard. You can certainly improve on milspec and there are top notch companies that do it (MSTN, Noveske, KAC, etc). They are improving though. DPMS and their low end counterparts aren't doing that. They aren't even meeting the standard that Dolomite is talking about. The minimum standard is there for a reason. When companies can't do the little things in it (staking is a good example), then why even bother with them?

I'm sure it does. However, they are not milspec regardless of their claims. The information is out there. Chambers out of spec (despite some being labeled 5.56), commercial receiver extensions, etc, etc. As a person who has bought cheap and spent more money upgrading and replacing parts and then selling at a loss, I advocate buying quality. It hurts initially but in the long run, I've found that if I had bought quality the first time, I would've come out ahead. I'm not saying someone has to go out and buy a Noveske or KAC, but the couple hundred extra they'll spend on a Colt, LMT, BCM, etc would be money wisely spent.

DPMS rifles are in no way milspec.

Yea, totally. I mean, ####ing your buddy in times of need is practically an American tradition. For only a couple hundred more, you can ensure that you get a good rifle. If you happen not to like it later, a Colt will uphold a good 95%+ of its value. If you want to go a cheaper route, buy a lower and upper separately to avoid the FET.

With ARs, like most other things in life, you pay for what you get.

Fair enough.....in all honesty, the yours and theirs kill me when I read them too.

If we started disregarding posts for misspellings and atrocious grammar, then half the posts on here and probably 75% of the internet would need to disappear. I'm guessing he's typing from a phone.

Yep alive, unharmed, and facing serious fallout. Their initial impact also came close (5ish feet) to mushing a dude. Generally pilots do this to give morale to the guys on the ground and to look cool. You see it quite a bit w/ Kiowas and Blackhawks, but especially the 58D's. I've got pictures of them at Stryker level. Unfortunately this one didn't turn out so well.

They mushed the climb, the altitude made the air thin, and the snow threw off their depth perception. Notice when it hits, the rotor position is in a cone. They were pulling the #### out of the collective.....just a combination of environmental factors and pilot error. They are done as aviators and commissioned officers in the military. There's quite a thread about it over on LF which reactions all across the board.

IMO, it is impossible to know all the laws. I would wager you don't know everything about your job either. I'm not talking about the differences in .223 or 5.56. I'm talking about gun people not knowing the basic laws regarding firearms. You know, silencers are illegal, you have to use a FFL for everything, you can only have a certain amount of ammunition, etc, etc. all the typical BS we see on forum and hear in gun stores. These two obviously have been misinformed. Now they know better. Hopefully they can apply themselves and their knowledge better in the future and/or they can tell their fellow officers. I think we all learn best from our mistakes.

It's completely understandable that they don't know firearms laws. A majority of them aren't gun people like we are. It is not their hobby. Getting them to shoot their weapons for more than qualifications can be a challenge. Think of how much BS is spilled at gun shops by both the FFL and the customers. It's even worse with the NFA side. You even see it on here to a lesser degree....."Well I heard....I thought......it's my understanding that....". Jeremy, don't take this the wrong way - I promise I'm not being confrontational. Instead of asking online first, search for the answer. I'm not saying to be a legal beagle like Patrick Stegall, but I guarantee Google will give you your answer. The information is out there.

This is also pursuant to your interests : Public Chapter 431 – Loaded Rifles and Shotguns in Vehicles – This act allows a person with a handgun carry permit to possess a loaded rifle or loaded shotgun in a privately owned vehicle. The act provides that the weapon cannot have ammunition in the chamber except in the case that an individual permit holder feels physically threatened.

Well hopefully they learned a little bit from the encounter. For those in Memphis, you need to watch the interstate system. There is an increased presence due to some dick measuring by the higher ups. The officers are very unhappy with their assigned duty and don't know when the detail will end.

####ing spot on.

Don't take it wrong but you're still way off. Going by this: http://www.fns.usda.gov/wic/benefitsandservices/foodpkgallowances.HTM, you might be able to get 1lb of cheese per month on food pkg 7, not week. It looks like you could get 4 gallons of milk per month or you could substitute some cheese, soy, or tofu. 3-4 gallons of milk per month seems about correct if you consider cereal, drinking milk, and maybe using it in recipes. WIC is a completely different program than the often (not terribly surprisingly) misused EBT card. If my tax money needs to be used on something, I would rather it be used on a program like WIC. You can only buy food and certain types at that. It's not like you can use WIC for a fillet or 12pk or carton of cigarettes. On the list of wasteful Government programs and tax misuses, WIC ranks near the very bottom for me.

Lol, so they can buy more liquor? Sure, why not? There was a guy in WA busted recently for scamming the system for years. Lived in a large lake front mansion in W. WA, drove expensive cars, the whole 9 yards. Stuff like that is where we need to be concentrating our rage, not WIC. But whatever, it's not like it will change anyways.

Are you sure you aren't exaggerating there? I encouraged my SMs to go through the same process. It's definitely no where close to 30lbs and somewhere around 3 gallons per month for a kid. FWIW, with my 2 year old, about 2-3 gallons a month sounds correct. WIC also doesn't determine portion size......the parent does. Considering we're in a supersize me type America, it's no wonder why parents over feed their kids. Other benefits are something like $5-6 bucks a month for fruit/vegetables, 16oz of cheese, beans, bread, and eggs. TN might also have some other things offered but I don't know for sure. I am 100% for feeding children. Since I have had my son, I look at children in a completely different light. I think it's a shame some people are allowed to have children. Kids should be given every opportunity to succeed, not sabotaged from the get go. If some of my tax dollars go to the WIC program, I have zero issue with that. What else is it going? A new carbine trial that is somehow going to get a different result than the last 3? New uniforms to replace the garbage that never should've been selected in the first place? Welfare for prison inmates? (Thanks for that CA!)

With AR's, like most anything else.....you pay for what you get. I'm not telling you to go out and get a Knights, but there are far better choices for only a little bit more.

Hopefully this doesn't violate any rules or regs. If it does, PM me and I'll delete it. I'm about to order some primers. Would anybody around the Memphis/Jackson area like to hop in so we can split the Hazmat charges? I'm looking to pick up at least 10k.