BigPoppa

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brooksjr, big ups for getting this together. and PM on the way

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This just in...............I won't hold my breath Tennessee attorney general to consider filing lawsuit over health bill Knoxville News Sentinel

Because the suit was filed by a group of Republican Attorneys General and Tennessee's (appointed) AG is a Democrat with very close ties to the Governor.

Hang on just one dadgum minute here..................you're telling us that you took a GUN into an establishment that served BEER and you weren't drinking, and that the GUN didn't even "go off" ? Nobody was shot ? The mere smell of the ice cold alcoholic beverage failed to send you into a violent, psychotic outburst ? In spite of this terrifying combination of factors, no bloodshed, mayhem, or chaos erupted ? You, my friend, clearly are not watching/reading enough mainstream media. This account is obviously fictional. Sarcasm - 9.5 Use of Smilies - 10

I'm telling !!!!

Emphatic + 1's to all these points from Packin Mama I would also strongly urge you to reconsider purse carry. I would also ask that you not try to predict or "cherry pick" when you may need your gun. There is unfortunately no crystal ball available to determine when or where you may be the victim of a murder, rape, or carjacking attempt. The place for a gun is on your person, and the time for a gun is anytime you legally can when you are away from the confines of your home. I fear, though, from your posts you already have your mind made up.

Cross-posted from The High Road....compliments of BullfrogKen It'll take you a minute, but worth it.....the best read of my day, so far................. Rather than tell you where to go, or that I liked XXXXX school/trainer with nothing besides, "I think he's the best" by way to substantiate that endorsement, I'll share some thoughts about how to pick the place you want to go. First and foremost, I'd recommend avoiding anything to do with a heavy bent on flashy marketing and super-secret techniques. There is nothing super-secret. Good quality training focuses on acquiring and mastering fundamentals. The really good schools and trainers have programs and instructors who are just really good at teaching those fundamentals in their course syllabus, drills, and sometimes individual instructor personality. I strongly suggest avoiding a school you come across that surrounds itself in a cult of personality. If you come across one with that cult of personality surrounding a particular person, well let's just say I hope he is the Messiah that he truly believes himself to be. His students might need his powers of resurrection. I'd be suspect of anything you come across that seems like it offers a lot in the way of "gimmicks". You know gimmicks when you see them. We've all been exposed to marketing many times a day in our modern lives. It's hard to describe, but like the Supreme Court concluded when it tried to differentiate between art and pornography, "you know it when you see it." Remember point number one - good quality training concentrates on acquiring and mastering the fundamentals. Before I took a class, I'd investigate to see if they have a strong preference for a given weapon system that they can't articulate and substantiate the benefit for why they advocate for it. Gunsite's program is known as having a preference for the 1911. They can articulate the reasons well. They point to it as having the best trigger system of any handgun - it doesn't change from the first to the second shot, and the path it travels -straight back - means the student has less to try to master - vs. the pivoting trigger. Notice they say nothing in the way of "hype" about it chambering the big and powerful .45 ACP. The reasoning is emminently practical and mechanical. Cirriculums and schools that place inordinate weight on the lesser benefits of a system - like capacity - over the more important ones - like gun fit and control - should be investigated. More often than not you'll find the reason they favor their system has more to do with limited experiences coupled with a personal preference that doesn't take into account the life experience, abilities, and limitations of others. Look for schools and instructors that have a well-rounded background. Your local cop, or the veteran of a 20 year career on a SWAT Team might be a great guy, and great shot, and seem very knowledable about what he knows. But cops are generally young and fit, not old or plagued with health problems. The strong and fit can often just power through a drill or use a weapon platform that someone who isn't young and fit can't. Make sure the instructors have the experience and background that enables them understand and empathize with those sorts of students. Otherwise the cirriculum and techniques will be built around a subset of the population - the fit and strong. Look for someone not married to a gun, system, and training regimen to the exclusion of something else unless they've got a good reason for their preference. Trainers who go out and get training themselves from other trainers should bump their program or school up to the top of your list. Lots of shooting competitions, awards, and inter-police/military service training by itself doesn't count for consideration. You're not interested in what he can do, you're interested in his ability to teach, and to have successfully taught it to a wide and varied range of students. High round count courses don't equal better training. In fact, there reaches a point where the student becomes fatigued by recoil and merely begins going through the motions to complete the next course of fire and get it over with. The effort to get through it starts to supercede focusing on learning the point of the exercise. It depends on the caliber, physical strength and simple endurance, but generally at some point around 800 rounds recoil fatigue sets in. While I'm on the topic of caliber, take the class with a 9mm or .38 Special. Yes, they're considered meek in today's world. But remember this is training, not practice. You're there to learn the material, not master it. You master the material in practice. You need your mind and body fresh to learn. Also on the topic of round count, remember to look for breaks built into the syllabus for classroom instruction. There better be some built in. At a minimum you should be provided a legal briefing on the concept of justification. Try to find out what the justification model is, or is based on. Avoid justification models lifted solely from policing sources. Police are duty-sworn and have a mandate to act, so their justification models are written and begin with an assumption of that duty to act. The appropriate model for the Armed Citizen stems from an assumption of necessity. Lastly, and probably most important - remember you mission. Remember your mission. Remember your mission. As you do your research you'll begin looking at lots of schools, cirriculums, and programs. Don't allow yourself to get caught up in it. What's your mission? What's the goal of your training? Someone living in a Shall Issue state and intends to carry outside the home on a permit/license will have a different mission than someone who cannot. And someone who carries as a duty will have a different mission than both of them. The best high risk civilian contractor course might be very appropriate for a certain group of people, while being completely mismatched to another group of students. Again, remember your mission. I've given out a lot to consider. But like I mentioned from the outset, rather than pronounce someone or some school "the best", if you use those criteria you'll be able to judge for yourself the wheat from the chaff. I don't know what's best for you. No one does. Only you can determine that. Once you know what to look for, you'll be able to guide your own training path, in the way that's best for you.

The plan brooksjr mentioned was just $ 1,000.00 we oughta be able to put a boot in $ 1k's a$$

With David's as an officially sanctioned TGO activity, SafetySouth is in for a few bills.

Welcome aboard, thanks for your service and go

Forehead tatt = not doing it for BigPoppa :-\

Sandra

Saturday, May 1, 2010 Smyrna $ 105.00 A one day, fundamentals course of instruction in the operation of the shotgun for home defense and personal protection. This course will cover firearms safety, shotgun platforms and mechanics, ammunition selection, administrative and tactical gun handling, and defensive applications. This course includes both classroom instruction, and live fire range exercises. A Tennessee Handgun Carry Permit is recommended as a prerequisite.

April 17-18, 2010 Smyrna $ 165.00 This is a two day, intermediate level skill builder course emphasizing firearms safety, marksmanship, and basic tactics. Defensive Handgun Workshop is designed as the first follow-up course for those who have recently completed a Carry Permit course or Armed Security course, or as a refresher course for those with previous handgun experience. DHW topics include "The Combat Triad", presentation from a holster, movement, scanning and threat assessment, malfunction drills, failure to stop drills, concealed carry methods, tactical and emergency reloads, addressing multiple threats, shooting from cover, and police-type qualification courses of fire. A Tennessee Handgun Carry Permit, or other acceptable previous firearms training is a prerequisite.

wow..........Dr. Bruce Levy arrested on marijuana charges - loses Metro, State of Tennessee and State of Mississippi forensics contracts. I'm curious as to how many old criminal cases in which Dr. Levy performed autopsies will now be brought under scrutiny....... Dr. Harlan had his problems......now this....... Pathologists on here ? brush off the 'ol resume State medical examiner loses job after marijuana arrest | tennessean.com | The Tennessean

Correct........6 months from the date on your certificate of training.

...has lost another member. My uncle, James "Bud" Witty, 85, of Woodbury was laid to rest this afternoon. He was a decorated Army veteran of World War II. Retired from the U.S. Postal Service, Bud was a bird hunter, a blue ribbon winning mule trainer and trader, a Southern gentleman, and truly a fine Christian man. I doubt he knew anyone on this forum, and his death won't make the papers...but his was a life worth living, and I thought he deserved a mention. Godspeed Bud....................

I have McGill's shotgun video. Among other things, I can cite incorrect use of nomenclature, poor and unsafe gun handling, bad editing, a bad section of audio (that instead of refilming, they used subtitles like a foreign film) and production values that reminded me of late 80's porn. The word "gauge" was misspelled on on-screen graphics throughout the video. While that may seem minor, when you're considering a SHOTGUN training video, the word "gauge" is pretty important ! Also, when McGill verbally refers to # 4 buckshot, the on-screen graphic reads "0000 buckshot" I almost sent it back to get my money back, but I decided to keep it for its sheer "badness". To be fair, this is the only McGill video I have seen, but assuming the others are similar, I've avoided ordering any more.

I rise to second the gentleman's motion

Well, I have gotten upset on occasion at guys OC'ing when it is pretty obvious that they were OC'ing for all the wrong reasons (i.e. - to draw attention to themselves). I have seen/known/observed folks OC'ing and it strikes me as almost kind of a "I was picked on in school, and nobody really takes me seriously, and now, by damn, I'm getting my respect !!" attitude or approach. For the record, I am NOT talking about all OC proponents, but I bet you know in your heart some of the same type of people I mention. + 1 and see my above remarks.............................

A number of firearms-related training videos are very good. An equal number are terrible. Did you have something specific in mind ?

Some newly released video of former Texas Tech Head Football Coach Mike Leach going the f*%3!K off on his team. Most of the profanity has been beeped out. There were some around here who wanted Leach to come to UT Rivals.com College Football - Video shows Leach berating Texas Tech players

Josh, Never mind. I'll send you a PM.