BigPoppa

I'm curious as to precisely what techniques, tactics, information, etc. that you have been so ripped off in the last 15 years that make you so indignant. Can you elaborate ?

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The 442/642 enclosed hammer models have quite a devoted following.

Yes, I am engaging in high level corporate espionage. I am pilfering top secret techniques such as how to charge a magazine, sight alignment and sight picture, handgun nomenclature, and much more !! Smugness noted....but don't cry for me Argentina, we've trained almost 150 students in the last year...all satisfied customers. Sometimes it's quality and not quantity.

There's a lot of "minimum" mindset on this thread, and that was the thrust of my original comments. People who want a HCP but want it at: Minimum price, minimum rounds fired, minimum drive time, minimum hours in class, teach only the minimum material the TDOS gives us. My point is that that mentality, in both trainers and students, may give good people a false sense of security that they are any better prepared to defend themselves or their family than they were when they arrived at the class in the morning. Shooting 48 bullets in broad daylight at a motionless paper target and hoping there are 34 holes in the black does not prepare you for the gunfight. Neither does the little more than that that we do, and I stress to my students to take more training, even if it's not from us, from a QUALIFIED, REPUTABLE instructor.

Thanks strick ! For the same reason I take any other training. The same reason you (and I) go to PRI. To learn, to stay fresh, to get another look at stuff and see what I can use to better myself and the product I put out for sale. And sometimes, to see what doesn't work so well. We don't teach a lot of tactics, but we do shoot more than 48 rounds. We spend more time on how to AVOID a gunfight, and how to stay out of harm's way in the first place. We talk a lot about stuff like "If you wouldn't go there without a gun, don't go there WITH a gun !" Is that kind of material in the state outline ? No. Is it important ? I submit that it is crucial, and reduces my liability as an instructor, not increase it.

Todd, I think J frames are used to their owners "straying" only to come back when the find that the grass IS NOT greener on the other side. All is well. What kind of pocket holster do you carry ? I have the DeSantis Nemesis for my 642 and it's "okay" but I'd get something else if I found an improvement.

Welcome aboard ! I have an XD40 Service model in the fleet and it is awesome.

Our course runs anywhere from 10-14 hours over the course of two days, not because of war stories, or sales pitches, or irrelevant stuff, but because that's how long it takes, I feel, to cover everything we need to for me, in good conscience, to feel like we got our students anywhere near ready for the gunfight. I tried the one day class for a while, and we just couldn't fit everything in, and still be off the range by the assigned time (Smyrna NG Range). So we went to two days of training, and sometimes I feel like it's still not enough for some of these folks who come through. To be honest, it's tough sometimes to compete with the one day schools, because unfortunately most people want to do the minimum they have to do to get that certificate for their HCP application. But my theory is this....if your personal safety, and that of your family, is not worth getting off the couch one more day, then by all means attend a one day course with my blessings, and I hope it works out for you. My comments are not meant in any way to denigrate or criticize any of the other HCP schools, or to imply that our school is better, etc. However, I will say with confidence that we put on one of the most thorough courses in Middle Tennessee, and I have taken the HCP course from four (4) of the other schools. Now, to the OP...it is my understanding that random inspections, though rare, do occur and a school's approval could be rescinded if minimum (time) requirements were not being met, and that alumni of that school could be subject to their HCP's being revoked. My advice is to check credentials of the HCP school staff, and get recommendations from former students.

Give us a look and let me know if we can help. www.safetysouth.net

+ 1 He is the major stumbling block to A LOT of right to carry legislation.

What do you mean ? They have a quick, hassle free process to issue a Non-resident permit.

Welcome Charles !

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Welcome aboard. GLOCKS, huh ? Looks like someone has been drinking the !!!

Pretty gun. Pretty group.

AVATAR ! It COMPLETELY creeps me out every time I see it. !!

Welcome and thanks for your service !

Dang ol' well said Boomhower

Look at www.tac2.com Don't know the guy, and never trained there so I can't say anything either way. Just happened to know he's up there somewhere.

I'll be there. I've taken I & II. Taking II again in April, and III in August.

Out of abundance of caution, our Handgun Carry Permit Course for this weekend has been postponed due to inclement weather. With folks coming in from Mt. Juliet in one direction, and Winchester in the other, I didn't want people on the road unless absolutely necessary. All registered students should have received e-mail/voice mail/ or talked to me on the phone. You can reschedule to the April 19-20 class, or I will refund your money...your choice. Thanks for your cooperation ! www.safetysouth.net

I have trained at PRI before, and am going back this year in April and August. Haven't met Ron yet, but John and Andy are both good guys. They have different styles, but they work well together. They train as students a lot, so their technical skills are current, and they are both attorneys, so you will get a good dose of valuable legal information. They stay on top of gun related legal issues, legislation, cases, etc. They have nice facilities at Bucksnort off I-40 about an hour west of Nashville. I would not hesitate to recommend them.

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