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A concern with 'auto' rounds in revolvers is the possibility of round setback or the bullet simply migrating/loosening in the cartridge Revolver rounds have a much different bullet crimp to prevent such.

Frog lube, the new mayo

. Irreconcilable differences- grounds for divorce....

But that is when it counts the most. That is why one should train and have these discussions.

I agree high thoracic is choice. For most civilian use, hopefully the situation permits. LEO is more likely to have retention length encounters due to restraint issues, more closeup and personal situations. As Ronald 55 said, as a civilian closeup work hopefully can be mitigated earlier.

AJ, are you referring to shooting from retention at the ‘3’position of the draw? If so, somewhat instinctive, but certainly an easy practice drill. Good dry practice initially keeping good support hand awareness. Muzzle position may be directed down for several reasons, crowds, need for pelvic hits, position of off hand.

I do like green....and due to squad pressure to get a 'dot' will go with the holosun. Did not have any trouble with any of the brands to find the dot, but that is due to draw stroke and being static. Moving through a stage I am sure will be much different. None of the dots were overly large but different intensities. With my limited experience and research, I would go larger dot if not doing the ring. One recent article was touting the 6 MOA and made sense to me. As I heard described, the optics are still in their teenage years with more advances to come. I'm still waiting it out another year probably.

Set up for leaving your gun behind........not a good plan IMO.

I shot half dozen dots a few weeks ago. Really like the green holosun. Circle good for close work, dot for distance. Also less sunburst affect with green when looking into sun vs. red.

My experience is the same as previous posters...essentially a gimmick. I use hornady clean and lube, mobil 1, and shooter's choice grease (very limited). Pistols, rifles, and shotguns, very pleased without failures regardless of weather. The hornady is one of the best rust protectants as well.

Shield 9 for past 6 yrs with a Versa Carry 'device'. Occasionally Compact 1.0 if I feel the need for speed in Fury Solution holster. Very high and tight concealment holster.

defensive pistols have Ameriglo square yellow front, and plain, wide notch warner site on rear. Game pistols same rear with Dawson FO front.

Bottom line, it may happen. Remember the Officer at the Outback that was asked to leave? It is private property where home court trumps just about everything else. CHL carries completely concealed, therefore no questions asked, possibly even in non-permissive locations.

If Zimmerman had OC spray we would have never heard of him.

look at SG ammo on line

Just saw an ad where USCCA is offering the CC on-line course, 90 min. for $37.97.

So DaveTN, I did mention Const. Carry which would be inclusive of those regardless of training or finances. Secondly, I don't teach for a living and couldn't care less of about competition. I teach because I think my background offers a quality product that I like to share. Teaching one weekend a month is hardly an occupation. The ECP I mentioned is for those that take the responsibility seriously and would have minimal restrictions on their carry because they have met a 'higher' standard, such as a school resource officer for example.

Which this circles me back to a true ECP, with a written test, and a practical pistol qualification based on basic LEO standards. Completely voluntary. BUT, the ECP would allow carry where LEO carries. Otherwise, constitutional carry. An option similar to the CCP could be available, but would be an online program similar to hunter's safety course at no charge.

The new CCP has only been out 2 weeks. Too early to tell its acceptance/ reciprocity. However, ND has already announced it will accept only the ECP.

Same old conversation. One cannot be for constitutional carry and assume one is suddenly trained anymore than assuming a ECP class makes one qualified to carry routinely. I have taught a couple thousand students, and there is a very small percentage I would be comfortable with being downrange. I think the class has some excellent legal information. Classes of a tactical nature are strongly recommended/necessary.My opinion doesn’t solve anything. But many of the posts contradict themselves.

And neither can the Enhanced Permit. One of the gripes is that the enhanced was a name change only, not a damn thing was “enhanced.”

Use to but dropped TN when the Military qualification was passed that included 18-20 yo. That is the concern regarding the new CCO permit. Hopefully all states will be as diligent as Nebraska when evaluating the new permit situation. Some are likely to use it as an excuse to drop us altogether.

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Company policy for employees is your 'law'. Even though in most circumstances you can store your firearm in your vehicle legally, your company may fire you for not combing your hair; just the way it is. The law you posted has no protection for you choosing to carry on company property/facility.

First, this class IS NOT a 'shooting class'. The shooting is simply to document a minimal level of competence with a firearm. If you shoot as much as you say you do, you should be able to do it blindfolded. The class does emphasize safety and law. Being prior military does not prove any of the 3 points. But the TFA says it best and I will post it here...….. From TFA newsletter" "So, should a citizen who wants to carry legally with a permit opt for the original (now enhanced) permit or the “concealed only” permit? The answer is clear – get the original permit. Why? First, the original / enhanced permit allows open or concealed carry. Many people do not plan to carry openly so they assume that they can save the $35 dollars and get the concealed only option. However, there are risks to that. Florida and other states have had “concealed only” permits for years. One common problem (that Florida finally fixed) was that some of those statutes do not defined what “concealed only” means. A related problem is that some of those statutes do not address whether “imprinting”, accidental exposure or even unavoidable exposure (such as placing the weapon in your vehicle trunk to secure it at a gun free zone) are allowed or whether such exposures can result in criminal charges. In Florida, prior to its law being rewritten, people could be and were charged with imprinting and incidental exposure of the firearms. Despite the clear need to address a definition of concealment and what happens with imprinting or incidental exposures, Tennessee’s new “concealed only” permit does not address these issues at all. See, Tennessee Code Annotated Section 39-17-1366. Opting to get the “concealed only” Tennessee permit may put someone at risk for criminal charges because the law was poorly (perhaps intentionally) written based on the information we have from other states. Second, not necessarily in order of significance, is the issue of reciprocity. Right now, about 35 states honor the Tennessee original/enhanced permit. It is not known for certain how many will honor (if at all) the “concealed only” permit. What we do know is that several states changed their reciprocity standards when Tennessee started issuing permits to certain 18-20 years olds a few years ago. It is foreseeable that the training differential between the two Tennessee permits might result in different reciprocity standards as well. Third, the concealed only permit is not a defense or exception to the same extent that the original/enhanced permit is. One area is with respect to certain schools/universities which do have exceptions for the original/enhanced permits (mainly for employees). Another area impacts hunters who hunt during archery and black powder seasons who should absolutely avoid the concealed only permit. Fourth, as mentioned above, a citizen can apply for a “lifetime” original / enhanced permit. No such option is presently available for the concealed only permit. Fifth, involves an issue many citizens don’t consider. The training requirement might become an issue. There are clear differences in required training to get either permit. The training for the original/enhanced permit requires both classroom and range training. The training for the “concealed only” permit may or may not include range training depending on what kind of training the person opts to rely upon (for example, most hunter safety courses require that you at least shoot a gun once). This training may or may not make a difference on the question of whether you were legally carrying a firearm (a criminal law question similar to whether you had a driver’s license). However, if things go bad as they did with the Texas church shooting, the presence or absence of training and what kind of training was involved may make a difference if a third party is injured and brings a civil negligence or recklessness action. There are many other factors to consider but after the Tennessee Firearms Association looked at the legislation we felt it was best to oppose this new proposed “concealed only” permit as poorly written legislation, legislation that creates needless civil and criminal traps for civilians, and legislation that was unnecessary since Tennessee already had a permitting system that itself just needed a few tweaks such as reducing the application fee or expanding the training options. Rather than do that, however, the legislature made things worse rather than better. On a positive note, some Tennessee legislators realized then and now that this second option of a concealed only permit was not the path that Tennessee should have been on. Seventeen states including 4 that touch Tennessee have adopted pure constitutional carry laws (no permit required at all). Approximately 30 states, including 7 of the 8 states that touch Tennessee, do not require permits or training if you are openly carrying a firearm. In October 2019, a new bill was filed in Tennessee that would if enacted adopt “constitutional carry” or “permitless carry” in Tennessee but which would still allow people to get the original/enhanced permit for reciprocity. That is what Tennessee’s legislature should have done in 2019. Let’s see what they do in 2020."