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To me a trainer stops being top tier when he teaches there is just one right answer for all situations and threats. I was taught to choose tactics by looking at all relevant factors, such as the mission, enemy, terrain, time available, etc. For example, when hiking and camping near GSMNP, a bear encounter's more likely than a disarming and mugging, so I open carry then.

All work done by profession gunsmith at Lock Stock and Barrel in Franklin TN. LC Smith Custom Grips and Grip Assembly. Bowen Custom front and Rear sights. Bowen cylinder pin, springs and swivel ring. Trigger job, crowned barrel and barrel was turned to remove warning. The gun is immaculate and one of a kind. If you know anything about Bowen custom fire arms their parts are top of the line and set the bar for revolvers. LC grips and custom grip frame are also top of the line. Will send more pics. I got this in a trade with another member on this site. I’m happy for him to make any corrections to anything stated above. Happy to send more pics. I am in Franklin TN. $2,000 cash price Possible trades include Franchi Affinity black Synthetic 28in 12G Ruger SP101 9mm Ruger Red Label Shotgun Ruger bolt action or semi auto rifles in 44 mag or 357 mag Pre-bankruptcy Remington LH 700 in 308. I like Rugers so feel free to put a package together and shoot your shot, but I do not need any Vaqueros or Blackhawks.

Withdrawing Sale

Get a valve core remover and let air out of all of their tires. Their vehicle will be there when LEO arrives.

Good, I will have to add it to the watchlist. Costner's movie wasn't bad but definitely could have been better. I watched Tank on Netflix last night, haven't seen that since I was a kid.

Well it is a forum for discussion. No one has gotten ugly yet. There have been a few reasons brought out here on both sides. I wouldn't consider myself as preferring open carry as I would rather be gray. But I think the best reason was something Col. Jeff Cooper said, "an armed society is a polite society". Though our current society might change his view it makes sense that OC would be a deterrent in most cases. It is more comfortable, and it is obviously quicker out of the holster. I know, there are two sides to everything but there's my two cents on the pros.

I concur. It brings a tear to my eye every time I see this gun still advertised. I tried to trade for it, but I didn't have anything the owner wanted, and I just don't have the cash it would take to buy it outright. Someone here should buy this to help out both the owner and other single action lovers like me who are tormented to see this lovely gun available. You could consider it a public service.... Cheers, Whisper

I can't believe it has any..it's basically a renamed P07 and they've been around for years.

How this show ? Figured head over to it this weekend not a bad drive a hour or so.

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Somebody please buy this and put me out of my misery.

Thanks - all of my other CZ's have been cajunized but I decided this would stay stock. The trigger pull on this is very clean from the factory. But I'll probably end up keeping it so I'll cajunize it once I pull it from here.

If you ever get to Knoxville, I'll buy it just because it's such a good price. GLWS

Why on earth chase an expected problem? My head hurts enough without all that.

It's hard to reload and save over their cost. Range USA has Midwest Reloads for $14 per box buying a box of 250. $70 per large $69.99, regular price $99. Range USA 300 CARTWRIGHT ST GOODLETTSVILLE, TN 37072

Not really sure, but this could be the source of our sleep deprivation. My wife has nicknamed them the terrorist twins.

Birchwood pike is just up the road from me here in Harrison. It has a good deal of diversity as you drive one end to the other. Not too uncommon here in the county where you’ve got some nice homes on land mixed with trailers. It’s a major thru way, heavier traffic than most and has more than its share of crime. just a couple miles away, it’s much quieter without any incident to note. I don’t know if it’s just me, but that mug shot screams crazy old curmudgeon. Doesn’t it? Maybe ahead of the curve at 56.

Birchwood is in Hamilton County.

Mom taught at Central High many years ago. The stories of the kids from Birchwood were always entertaining.

According to the article I read this morning, the family was NOT on the shooter's property. I hope they throw him in jail for a very long time. Even if there's a backstory, there's no excuse for shooting at people under those circumstances.

Sounds like a good enough reason to look for something else.

Then there was a commenter at the bottom of the article- Primarily blaming all the carry laws and us nut cases that are allowed to bear arms- We just always want to whip out our gun and shoot at someone- How about putting the blame exactly where it belongs-squarely on the shoulders of the shooter and leave the rest of us out of it-

Lol.... Well you have a point there. Really I would like to find more places to shoot and people to shoot with.

I wouldn’t join any group that would have me as a member.

M&P .45 Shield. Soft shooting and the best compact 45 around.

This is Anya. I just had to have female to balance the pack.

Reading this was great entertainment. As always I don't care how you carry, it's about the person. Are you responsible, do you train, do you have proper equipment. I see concealed carriers that do it wrong, as well as open carriers. I shake my head at both. If you are aware, and you should be I'd bet you can guess who's carrying. I do both and yes I have a retention holster(level 2) for open carry, id say 85% I conceal carry. Carry how you want, don't judge those that do it differently then you. Do I recommend someone have an cheap unreliable firearm no, but if that's what they can afford I get it. I hate the way my wife shoots, but it works for her and she hits. Anyone who say their way is the only way, good luck.

I saw 2 guys open carrying over the last couple of months. 1 was at Sams, it was busy and i was not in a hurry so i covertly watched to see how people reacted. Guess what? nothing, no one even looked. No one stared, no one gasp as he walked by, no one went screaming from the store. It was no difference than if he was not carrying at all. Good for him.

I'd like the FBI abolished as well.

Leroy had is 6th Birthday last week so he got a cupcake.

In addition to the no trespassing signs at the gate(s), make sure they mention that purple paint indicates "no tresspassing" and then paint a purple blaze on your trees/fence posts. That serves as a legal posting for "no trespassing" here in TN. Paragraph C.2 has the details: https://law.justia.com/codes/tennessee/title-39/chapter-14/part-4/section-39-14-405/ You can keep trying TWRA/State/LEO/whatever for criminal charges but that's (1) unlikely to happen and (2) if it does bear fruit will likely be nothing more than a simple fine and won't stop the problem. Then you're back to pleading with the same folks to issue a second fine and that may take just as long for them to do anything about it as it has the first time. I suggest you contact an attorney with a reputation for being aggressive. You want someone who's kind of a jerk, not a nice guy . . .someone who loves a fight. You want a pit bull attorney. They can help you with what you need for building a civil case. The above advice about cell-based trail cams, very well hidden cams monitoring "bait" cams for them to take/destroy, etc. is very good. All of that evidence will help with your civil case for harassment, trespassing, destruction of property, and whatever else the attorney can think of. As mentioned above, a letter from that attorney might do the trick. The perps will need to decide if hunting on your land is worth the legal expense they'll have when you let your attack-lawyer off the chain.

I don't mean to sound flippant. You're in a crappy situation. I think state or federal level help will be required, the locals are far too entrenched. Even TWRA can be ... difficult. I used to work with a guy who's son was a game warden. If half the stories he told were accurate, it'll be an uphill battle. The problem I see is racoon hunting without permission may not be thought of as a big deal at the higher level. Racoons aren't exactly endangered. I think you'll need to find something more to get their attention.

If they had told my Wife we need to move, that wouldn't be an option. A thinly veiled threat is still a threat. I've given my opinion of how to legally fix the situation. I wouldn't have handled it like that after the threat, but I would have removed their ability to hunt my land.

I think you are getting ready to see how corrupt the law enforcement and judicial system is in East Tennessee. Just my opinion.

From what you have posted, the only crime the have actually commented is trespassing. It may be more. If they have a hunting license and hunting in season then they are only trespassing in the eyes of the law. Their punishment will increase if they do it multiple times. If you have proof....like photos, you can sue them. Getting the neighbors on board would be a huge help. I would also get a personal video device so any and all interactions are recorded. Hopefully with a little pressure, they will decide it's not worth the trouble.

You know, this makes me wonder. The OP has stated that they have gotten more aggressive this last year. I wonder if they have been feeling emboldened by the decision that we all were happy about, and I still am, regarding the state constitutions private property protections, and the prohibition against utilizing open fields doctrine. I imagine that the TWRA would leap at the chance to place cameras with landowner consent to catch folks hunting illegally. if the ne’er do wells were to abscond with the TWRA’s cameras, I have to imagine that they would bring the hammer down with great vengeance and furious anger.

Some cell cameras have gps location tracking. A picture will be sent to you phone just after the picture is taken. While the police may not arrest them, they will be under a bunch of pressure from everyone that pays their salary to stop. If they see the camera, they will destroy or take it. If they take the camera, you're golden. Use an air tag in each one. You'll want some cameras brushed in though. If they take a camera that normally doesn't have GPS, but dose have an air tag, they have committed crime that can be documented. Hopefully they take it home with them. If you use one for bate, make sure it's an older one without cellular service. The TWRA will also set cameras out for you if you give consent. If the local officer is not helping, call his LT. If that doesn't work call Nashville...every day...7 days a week.

Thank you for the tips... I have thought of posting publicly in local groups as well as his FD page. This guy knows exactly how this goes, LEO said they have to be present for actual trespassing and he's lickety split by then. He also parks in others' access drives or in the ditch of a holler. Non of the neighbors have given permission for hunting either. The last time these hunters were out, two weeks ago, they parked on the road and hopped the fence back to the road when the call was dispatched to LEO and they packed up shortly before their arrival. Have I been given incorrect info and all I need is photographic evidence for a case? I was told they have to be caught in the act, on the property, not in the ditch or road. They had been told not to hunt on the property over 3 years ago, they started getting aggressive this year and shining lights in the trees near the house and seemingly has gotten worse since we have had to chain our dogs at night and we have not met their trespassing with aggression.

My daughter has had the same problem with hunters on her 89 acers. She has not given anyone permission. She has paid trail rides and has trails all throughout the wooded sections of her farm. In fact close to 4 miles of trails. She has seen spent shotgun ammo hulls all over her trails, but it seems to have stopped this year. The neighbors shooting once bother her horses, but they have shot so much, unless they are close by, the horses have gotten somewhat accustomed to the noise. Trespassing is a problem. She only has no trespassing signs up at her entrance gate.

Speak to an attorney. You know who this tresspasser is, a simple letter from an attorney might do the trick. I agree with what Alleycat wrote, too. Posting a picture on the FD's FB page will get the attention of the chief and the commissioners.

Get pictures. Send them to everyone in TWRA, local law enforcement, and Fire department. Make sure his captain gets it. Post it on the fire departments facebook page. Any Facebook page for the local area. Have their truck towed if it's on your property. This is all assuming you have told them not to hunt your property. Cell cameras will be invaluable for this.

My favorite 38 Special target load consists of a 148 grain hollow base wadcutters atop 2.7 grains of Bullseye. That equates to 2592 rounds per can if I don’t spill any. I wish I could get that kind of mileage out of a can of 4350 in 30-06!

The cool thing about Bullseye is a pound will load a bunch of rounds of anything it’s suitable for.

I miss the real Gun Shows we used to have way back then, you could just about find what you were looking for to buy or trade, but those are few now. On the subject about selling guns I guess it's up to the shows sponsors to set what rules to go by, but I still can't understand that the ATF just can't make up laws without congress in-acting them into law. They can suggest any sort of so called "Law" of what they want to do but I believe it needs approval before and then signed into a law, I may be wrong but as far as I understand TN doesn't have a law that says I need to meet a buyer at a FFL to do any paperwork on a Private Sale unless the Buyer want to do that and also make sure they are of age, until then I'm going to keep doing what I've always done.