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Sounds like your issue has more to do with pricing than believing someone's weapon has/hasn't been fired. To the latter there's a lot of good people on TGO and when I deal with someone I take them at their word. If they lie then they run the risk of being outed at the point we make the deal. Same for me if im the seller. To the former you're going to have to learn to look laugh and move on.

It’s not difficult to believe. Lots of guys on here have some serious collections. I don’t think it far fetched that most would be in like new condition. Despite differences that some of us my have, outside of my family and military buddies, these are some of the most honest people I’ve ever met. I normally purchase new, moderately priced guns in pairs. I’ve sold and purchased several that are exactly as described. Some guns get a magazine or two through them, and some don’t. I have some expensive guns in the safe that I just wanted, and they’ve never had a magazine inside them. The most important thing I’ve learned about buying or selling on here is to be honest. A good reputation makes it easy to do both. In most cases, if the sale were local, I’d almost always throw in something (ammo or accessories) for free. Good luck with your future sales or purchases!

When I first joined this site, I only owned a handful of guns, only what I needed and they'd all been fired a lot. I was a impressed to learn how many people on here had collections of firearms, not just necessities. I thought they must be millionaires, LOL. As I've come to realize time/age is a more of a factor to the size of the collection than wealth. I'm not wealthy by any stretch, but over the past 20+ years my collection has grown. I now see how easy it is to have unfired LNIB guns.

Drove about 250 miles round trip to get this bad boy today and Im over the moon ecstatic. Thanks to @Patton for the tip on where I could find one. Ill be pairing this fighting revolver up with a Simply Rugged Sourdough Pancake in black alligator as my Sunday go to meeting rig. The Sourdough has the IWB straps on it, and should help make carrying a big chunk of steel much more comfortable.

If you’re having trouble with this, don’t ever watch Mecum’s car auction on tv. A big block stingray with 400 miles on it is really hard to swallow!

I'm in the same boat. Actually, there are some guns I buy that I'd prefer be fired, because I'd probably never shoot them-lol. Like if I think it might be collectable in the future. A few years ago I bought a new CZ97B, and didnt shoot it right away. Now they are discontinued and scarce and I wont shoot it, figuring its worth more. Looking for a used one, but folks want more for a used one that I paid for a new one. One thing I see often in a gun ad, but dont understand, is where folks will say the gun has been carried, but never fired. God bless you to trust that gun without ever shooting it. I like to do 400-500 rounds thru the gun first, with the last 100 or so being HP and some actual carry ammo. Which is why I dont change carry guns too often-lol. Have only bought guns from TGO folks a few times, its mostly Armslist or E-Classifieds. But I gotta say, 99% of my transactions have gone smoothly and have met some great folks. And the guns are usually in the condition that they were described.

Some folks are shooters and some folks are collectors. I have no problem believing it. Stamp collectors don’t lick every stamp they gather.

I am one who does not have a lot of trouble believing it. I just counted and I have 34 guns right now. About 2 thirds of them I bought new. I have shot 3 of them. I just like collecting them. I used to be a class 3 dealer back in the 80's and had dozens of machine guns. I played with so many full autos that I am no longer much interested in firing an ordinary firearm. On top of that there is no convenient place to shoot around here. Your situation may be different.

I, too, have a number of arms in the safe that have been fired very little, and a few that haven't been fired at all. Like a lot of guys on here I just find it hard to resist adding one. But I tend to be a buyer, not a seller. The guys that I've transacted with from TGO have all, without exception, been on the up-and-up, and I wouldn't hesitate to deal with any of them again. But of course it's always important to check out what you're buying and satisfy yourself that the deal is fair.

I don’t have what Mr Ray has or I would be claiming single. I do have a brand new front to back BCM AR that hasn’t been fired. I think it is the best in class rifle and can’t bear to soil it. The others I have, I beat like they owe me money on mortgage day. Now that I am finally on my property and able to shoot out the back door in my underwear. Which IS normal!!! Anything is worth only what someone is willing to pay for it. If you think it’s too high then you’re not interested.

Just Good, Cheap entertainment. Prices for guns are all over the place. Some seem too expensive, some seem too cheap and some seem exactly as they should. In my 40 plus years of horse trading experience I’ve figured no matter what you know, sometimes you slip up and pay too much for a firearm or fall into a really good deal. A old friend of mine told me that you could never pay too much for a firearm, you could just buy it too soon. Many times I’ve paid too much only to find it’s worth twice what I had paid for it in just a few years. Best investment you can make. Better than money in a bank.

Harvey's in Knoxville is listing Gen 4 Glock 22 LE Turn-ins for $269.99. Not sure that deal can be beat. These apparently have the Citrus County Sherriff's Dept. Scroll on the right side of the slide. Comes with 1-15rd mag. SALE!!! $40 Lays It Away - LEO Turn In Glock 22 Gen 4 .40S&W - harveysauctions.com

$950. Handguard installed by qualified gunsmith. Paracord wrapped lever. Low round count. These are extremely hard to find. Fun to shoot and a head turner at the range. *Buyer must be a TN resident and legally able to own firearms. Must be willing to sign Bill of Sale.

They also have Model 21 Gen 4 .45 acp trade ins on the counter for $349 with 4 mags and a bag.

I don’t consider myself a collector at all, but I am surprised at what I’ve accumulated over-time. The reasons are varied and many, but I have several un-fired guns. Like @Links2k, I bought some in pairs. Or multiple guns at the same time with specific intentions, but life and priorities seem to have their own idea about my plans. maybe have at 20 right now I have yet to fire. A couple I bought more than 10 years ago. I never intended them to sit, but I never intended to get old and start losing my hair either.

Yup, feels like someone hoping to fish out some outage responses.

It’s been a while but I’ve got those covered and a few more.

Thanks guys. I just made arrangements to buy its specil twin brother as well, should be picking this up soon. Thunder Ranch 21-4 in .44 special.

I personally put value on usage. Less usage to be exact. I look for newer less beat to hell guns without the fancy dodads that we all put on our stuff. The gun is for sale, not the pink grip and furred dice scope.Just because you have a scope that was sought after during the first depression doesn’t mean your 400 gun is worth 1400 now. That is me and I know others put fancy do dads on with the thinking it raises the value but those dodads are good for you and maybe not for a potential buyer. I’ve learned that the hard way with an AK that I have well over 5k in. People like what we like and don’t always want to pay for what you like. As others have said, some of the stuff here is priced comical. EVERYONE and exactly every single person I have dealt with have been good honest people. A few have become regular contacts in this world. Grain of salt buddy.

If there here illegally they are criminals and the only right they should have is the right to get out of the. USA they walked here they can walk back

They quite possibly will consider the wording Illegal Alien- The working key word is that they are already here illegally which means they already have committed a crime-

Not hard to believe at all. I have a lot of shooters but have more that are NIB collector guns.

Never had any doubt. More the norm anymore unfortunately

UPDATE: I've had it back for a little over a week and have driven it quite a bit at various speeds and of course hitting plenty of the potholes on our roads now. No more shaking, so it seems like the diagnosis of the drag link was correct. Replacing the Aux battery was pretty easy. 4 bolts and some tugging on the passenger fender to remove it. I actually struggled getting the side marker light harness disconnected more than anything else . I did crack a few of the clips, but not so bad that they don't work, plus the 4 bolts are really doing the attaching. Next time I have an order for Quadratec I'll add in some of their $2 clips and replace them.

Vent/Rant. solely for that purpose. I had a Kilo 2000 range finder. Sig CS said it was made in 2016. I bought it new from a shop here in town. I went to use it out the other day, and couldn't read the display. I changed the battery and it was no different. - searched the web and found an absolute avalanche of failures on these units. I called in today, and they would do nothing. No repair, nothing. ... except 20% off on any optics from their store. ... you mean the ones that won't last past the warranty exp date? No thanks. They say this range finder has a 5yr Electronics warranty - the "Unlimited Lifetime Guarantee" is on the mechanical even though it says nothing about that on the initial warranty page. On a monocular digital range-finder, the electronics ARE the unit. period. It makes zero sense to warrant mechanics past the warranty for the electronics... unless you were trying to lure a purchase with a false guarantee. The kilo is in the trash. I am done with Sig Optics. There are waaay better companies to give business to. Here are the adjacent pages from the manual for this unit... which follow the marketing at the time - which was... misleading. There is nothing on the first page that remotely hints of an exception to total coverage. Just an FYI: All of the Sig electro-optics now say "5yr warranty" on the product page. Oh well, yeah, trash is gross. hahaha... it's about the way I feel about Sig right now.

Been wanting to see how these compared. Finally got a Micro Dagger last week and thought I'd pass on my experience. Quality: the handling and feel of the CR920 is better on every level. It's one of those things you can just see and feel. The PSA isn't bad, it just doesn't have anything unnecessary or extra. It just doesn't "look" refined. The CR920 has all the little extras. Handling: the PSA actually shoots better. The micros trigger is slightly heavier but more crisp and consistent. The CR920 is a little on the mushy side and the break is a bit soft. It's not bad but in a side by side comparison, it's noticeable. However, the CR920 feels better in my hand. While the CR920 feels smaller it also feels a bit wider than the PSA. The PSA feels great but feels vanilla at the same time. Accuracy: both would hit where they were pointed ... when I did my job. However, the slight mush of the CR920 trigger opened the groups of a bit. Both are more accurate than me. I think with a bit of trigger refinement the CR920 will be better than the PSA, but not in it's stock configuration. Mags: the PSA mags worked great but they look and feel cheap with the partial poly makeup. Mag lockup of the PSA was also a bit loose feeling and feedback was neutral at best. I would often double check that they were seated. Once I thought it was and when it wouldn't charge the first round, I found it hadn't fully seated. The CR920 mags locked in consistently with positive feedback and looked quality. Extras: none of my kydex CR920/43x mos holsters fitted the PSA securely. I have a dedicated holster from Eclipse holsters coming for the PSA. Both take Glock sights Bottom line: I ran both with Holosun 407K-GR and like them both! They both have standard pic rails (Big negative I had with the P365). The CR920 has the ability to be smaller with the different mag sizes. The PSA has 15 rnd mags (+2 over the CR920). I would have no problem if I only had one over the other. Is one better? Eh the CR920 is more refined but you pay for it. The PSA is cheaper and less refined but does all the fundamentals right ... get both.

OK, I'm relisting this because I kept changing the last ad so I wanted something fresh and updated. Price adjustments stay the same. Was $800 Now $700. Great gun. Direct milled for the Holosun/RMR footprint and re-melonited. Has trigger mechanism polished and a Lone Wolf 3.5 lb connector, but I can include a standard dot connector if you want. Holosun has the solar backup on top. Also comes with Galco leather OWB holster and a Blackhawk! SERPA. 4 Glock magazines included. Will throw in 50 rounds of S&B to get you started shooting too.

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All original Nickel Colt 4" Python from 1975. It comes in the original matching serial number box and shows little sign of use. I'll let the pictures do the talking for this one. I'm asking $4000 and located in Lebanon, TN for this amazing Colt Snake Wheel Gun. Please message with questions. Thanks! Now $3500 FTF or $3525 Shipped to your FFL.

I'm thinking I might go get one and put it in layaway. I don't have a .40 short and Wimpy.

That's a heck of a deal @Moped! I have to force myself to stay away from the gun stores you frequent! I'd be paying on layaways the rest of my life LOL

For template-style cuts like a handgun RDS, a major CNC house with a program and setup is a far better option than a local gunsmith. They mount them in their fixture, press the button, and a few automatic operations later, you have the optic cut of your choice, perfect every time. Meanwhile, a master with a mill and precision measurements will take 25x more labor, and will not be as perfect as the CNC cut unless they also have a manual jig and fixture set up - which they don't, because it's a service best done in CNC. I recommend https://gallowayprecision.com/tier-one-carry-service

I have a LNIB (like new in box) Kershaw Livewire 9000 OTF Spearpoint in Magnacut, black handle, satin finish blade. Never carried, used or sharpened. Still has the factory edge. Factory box included. Not looking for trades. Price: ***SOLD****

The S&W Model 29 and Pythons were my dream guns back in the day. In particular, the Python is one sexy revolver that I would have loved to own back then. A friend of mine had one in blue which is the epitome in my mind. To Leroy's point, this would be a good investment for someone. I think the cost will only go up in age. Free bump-it-ty-bump.

Love it! I haven't had the fortune to try a revolver with moon clips, but I love the idea.

I'd like to get a higher quality unit at some point but that moment isn't now. Too many other priorities. I'd love to try the Apple product but don't see myself spending that sort of cash anytime soon.

Glad to hear you got the 'death wobble' successfully sorted. It's nice when a person closes the loop on their post so we can all learn. Safe travels!

When it comes to Form 4473 and the ATF in general, do not ever believe the ATF has any regard for the 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution.

Well, I understand the reasoning on some of them, and number three is slightly different in that it doesn’t have any inconsistency so we will set that one aside. that said, by the Bruen standard 1, 2 and 4, all face an extremely uphill battle to survive court testing. I strongly suspect that it is going to force the hand of the government to make it easier to forcibly confine folks who cannot be trusted in public with a firearm. The the amusing thing to me is that the anti-gun crowd defending these laws has consistently reached back to laws from the founding era, prohibiting groups, such as black folks, and native Americans from purchasing or possessing firearms. Those laws, all have one thing in common, they were exclusions, based upon certain folks not being included in “the people”. Thus far, the court has not found any merit to that position. The folks in point number five are the only ones for whom that delineation could apply.

I despise the mere existence of the ATF and think almost everything they do is illegitimate, however I'll let my hypocrisy show a little on these points: It's none of the AFT's business if I buy a gun for someone as a gift, but I do want it to be illegal to make straw purchases. I don't think every felony should keep someone from buying a gun, but I do want it to be illegal for violent felons to buy guns. I don't think smoking pot should keep you from buying a gun when people who drink alcohol are free to do so. I believe in "shall not be infringed", but I do want it to be illegal for crazy people, stalkers, and people with restraining orders against them to buy guns. I don't think illegals are entitled to any inalienable rights under our Constitution.

These criminals have more rights than we do.

If this has already been covered I apologize. Saw this little gem pop up at the LGS and thought it would make a dandy pocket carry piece. Its a 442 with VZ grips, big dot sights, and no lock, coming in at 16 oz unloaded. They have a 642 and 442 as well as a 6 shot .32 H&R version. For a revolver guy or a BUG setup these seem to fit the bill. Ill report back with a range report as soon as I get over there to pick it up out of layaway. https://www.guns.com/news/2024/02/06/meet-the-new-smith-wesson-ultimate-carry-j-frame-in-32-h-and-r-mag-and-38-spl

I have been known to throw stuff like that away myself- I have a lot of Vortex optics and have had a Spitfire that they replaced- It's a shame that Sig won't stand behind their products-