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My son is a highschooler. He said they had a walkout today and some people were going to Nashville. He said "i'm not going anywhere" and stayed in class.

This is your periodic reminder that these folks are performers selling a product. The idea that they are like you or share your values is simply you projecting your thoughts onto them.

Folks... There has been lotsa opining on this tragedy. An undeniable tragedy on lotsa levels. The sadness of children murdered. The sadness of folks of good will being murdered because they simply worked at this school. The tragedy of someone so young and so full of rage and hate that they thought shooting innocents and folks who were doing good was a laudable idea. There is simply no end to this tragedy. Folks are horrified, deeply saddened, scared and repulsed by this atrocious and senseless act. That said, there have been lotsa partial solutions advanced... School hardening, armed and trained resource officers, improved mental health screening, etc. The list goes on. All these solutions have their place, but I think all of these " governmental " and " societal " solutions overlook the root problem. That is the problem of " evil ". You cannot attend to this problem of senseless murder of others by not confronting the issue of evil people doing evil things. The fact of the matter is that there is no gubt solution to evil other than eradicating the perpetrators. We want to believe that if we somehow get the right mix of protections, that this problem will go away somehow. It will not go away because of the problem of " evil ". Murder, mayhem, and killing has always been around. It's present in every society. Our society has magnified this problem because we are so balkanized, hedonistic, and devoid of the ethics of how we should treat our brothers and sisters, that many are all about themselves and have no inclination to be accommodating or kind to others with which theys disagree. Put another way; only those who are in lock step agreement are brothers, and those who disagree with us are not worthy even of life. It is my fervent belief that this is the root of the problem; and as long as there are enablers, apostles, and cheerleaders for this madness; these senseless, evil calamities will not go away. That said, in our society " freedom of speech " enables them to continue. I do, however, believe they can be minimized to a great extent if we take the steps to physically protect children in the classroom using dedicated, trained, and able personnel who will not hesitate to use deadly force to defend these innocents. The solution is not more laws or gubt regulations. The solution is to make potential malefactors count the cost of doing these things as a deterrent; and to eliminate the perpetrators when the need arises. In closing, I've tried to keep this little epistle on the secular plane, but it is undeniable that this issue touches the spiritual plane. The " God-Man " said that " you should love your brother as yourself "... This is the ultimate solution, but we live in a fallen world. Since we live in this " fallen world ", we need to clearly see that there are evil beings bent on doing evil things, and we need to be ready as both Believers and Non Believers to take decisive action to protect these most precious in our society. May this sort of tragedy never happen again. leroy...

8" chef's knife, RWL34 stainless blade with Bolivian Rosewood scales, its out the door!!

Oh. Look. Entertainers who only care that you send them your money are signing on to a popular cause in order to create the illusion that they give a #### about you. How brave. How stunning. How bold.

If you think country music is going to hurt themselves, you should see what Bud Light is doing.

Well as of an hour ago I am now a paid member of the TFA organization. I took the advice of all the members here. Thanks to all of the replies I received.

So shouldn’t those parents get back any taxes they paid? Why not if so? And I despise when people say someone doesn’t “need” the money. Who are you or anyone else to decide? They may work 3 jobs so they can send their kids there. Need has nothing to do with it. Again, provide equal money to every kid and let the parents decide. That is fair, no? Heck, we spend (waste) more money per kid than just about any other nation on school. The fair share should be more than enough for any kid to find a good education if their parents gave a damn.

Finally came out with a Wrangler with adjustable sights and 2 cylinders.

They took a hit initially, but many have short memories and would buy from the devil himself if the price was right. I personally haven't stepped foot in there since, not only because of the woke stance, but because I am not impressed with their prices, offerings or customer service. I am sure they don't miss me, and that's ok, I will spend my money elsewhere.

Is this a trick question? My first car was a nearly perfect 55 Chevy Nomad and it was only ten years old when I bought it. I paid for it from money I earned the previous three years from a large paper route, seasonal jobs on a concrete crew as a gofer/helper, Sandwich/pizza maker in a hoagie shop and a few others. This was back in the day when kids 13,14, 15 years old were allowed to work and wasn't afraid to do so. I will add I wasn't alone in this feat as most of my friends did the same thing.

Very true but when country music as a whole starts this I think they are only going to hurt themselves.

It stinks to think about having armed guards at a school... it really does. Now let's face facts. it HAS to happen. We have armed guards at sporting events, bars, churches, federal buildings, conventions, airports, etc. Why would school be any different? Any place with large gatherings of people have it, but NOT our most vulnerable group? It makes no sense. Society can scream and bark all day long about how banning guns is the answer and yet they'll NEVER accomplish that. But putting one or two trained individuals on site absolutely can be accomplished (pretty quick I would imagine). Recognizing also that it will be the most boring job on the planet 99.999999999999% of the time.

You're doing the right thing. 100%. Hold that line! You've got our support on that.

I would think that the parents of kids in private school pay just as much in taxes as the rest of us. I want their children protected just like ours. They are already helping pay for our kids education even though their kids do not use it.

I hope there are never this many funerals in one weekend again in my life.

I stopped watching the news, with rare exceptions for major events, nearly 20 years ago. I'm still an angry individual, but at least I'm angry about things of my own accord now.

I personally couldn’t care less about the CMA, their members, their mutual admiration society, and the poor excuse for entertainment they put out. Same goes for good music and their societies that think average folks give a damn and are hanging on to everything they do. If you like the product, separate the “artist” from the “art”. Then go study some history. The fact of the matter is there is no getting away from “woke”, whatever that means to you. Entertainers, corporations, governments, etc., are going to try to build a customer base. That will involve the perception or actual fact they are are supporting something you don’t believe in. It is what it is and always has been that way.

I'll be 69 next Monday. I am genuinely surprised I've made it this far. God, fate, destiny or whatever powers control our lives have tried to bump me off twice. I guess I'm just too stupid and ugly to die. It ain't the years, its the mileage. My odometer has rolled over at least twice.

You and I CLEARLY have a different opinion of what woke is then. Otherwise you'd know that the individuals you call anti-woke don't want to be pandered to at all. In fact, the whole point is that companies have successfully peddled their wares without being political for 100 years. Unnecessarily injecting woke politics into their ads is hurting their bottom line and they have even admitted it.

Fair, i was looking at it from the perspective of "didn't have to fend off an attacker today" over and over and over. You're right, middle school and high school is when the hormones start flowing and the kids are full of piss and vinegar. They really are awful humans.

Not necessarily. At the high schools, SROs are busy all the time. A lot more goes on for them to deal with than the very rare active shooter. I suspect middle school is the same. Some kids at that middle school age are simply awful humans. There's less going on for an SRO at elementary, but there's a lot more opportunity for positive interaction with the students to hopefully make them a little less awful in middle school.

Looking to sell my 2 styer augs, both are basically new, I still have to box for 1 but not the other, both come with the factory pmag, both odg and nato models. I’m not looking for any trades. Sold eotechs/lights not included)

I have a pretty darn nice, lightly used Smith & Wesson M&P10 in .308 Winchester or 7.62x51NATO that I am putting back up on the for sale. I have shot probably 50 rounds through it, would be surprised if the previous owner shot many more. Looks like almost new, some handling marks. I'm not an AR afficionato so I don't know much about it or what to look for. I have disassembled to remove the bolt and look at it but that is it. It has a nice floating heat shield installed but comes with the stock one. M-Lock angled foregrip installed on it. Has some nice Troy Industries flip up sights that will go with it as well. 5 Mags with 1 all metal 10 round mag. It is a nice rifle, with everything included, in the bag, ready to go, first $1,300.00 takes it.

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It goes much deeper than entertainment, lol. Western civilization, heck, all of mankind’s history is based on uh, “questionable morality”. Depending on one’s definition of course.

Wise man! Fox just got caught. If dirt becomes available on other networks intentionally misleading their viewers and causing harm in the public interest, hopefully they’ll also be held accountable.

This is the reality and has been since man discovered fire.

There are two things going on here, one of them is the debate on whether public funds should be spent to protect a private institution. That is a legitimate debate worth having. The other thing is your view on the purpose and design of state funded public education. I would have to say that you bought a line of BS hook line and sinker. Because well, that’s what they’re selling to folks, that isn’t what they actually do and it was never their purpose to do so. Despite the best efforts and intentions of a lot of well-meaning teachers, education as a general rule, happens in spite of public schools, not because of them. They were never designed to educate people.

No, they shouldn't. They didn't pay taxes just to the school then and there for the kid they removed from it in favor of a private education. This is a collective thing. A while back, we decided schools should be publicly funded for everyone...same as roads, libraries, police and fire departments, and anything else along that train of thought. Every parent with a kid in private school knew the way this works, and still elected for the private school. I've got no issues with the way that decision came about because I recognize the value of a private education over a public one in a lot of cases. But that doesn't absolve them from the collective contribution to public education. A better way to look at this: schools are a way to ensure we have an economy a generation later. Everyone who is holding a job today and producing something deemed of economic value to society is doing so because of a school. Yes, homeschooling is responsible for some, private/religious schooling for more, but the overwhelming majority learned to read, write, do math, understand science, and history in a public school paid for by collective tax revenue. This isn't a formulation that can be traced to whomever claims a child as a dependent on taxes...it's a whole effort. We don't keep an economic foundation as a country without a public school system. I'm not one to decide on how people spend their disposable income. But if these private schools want security, it needs to come from their own coffers, not public ones. It'll be up to the parents to decide if the added cost of security is the make or break line in the household budget. I'm guessing it will be minimal...even in the scenario where someone is working 3 jobs to send their kid to a private school. I just saw on Channel 5 one school started someone for security Thursday and the plan is to raise tuition and after school activity fees to pay for it. There is a lot of debate to have on how much we spend for education, how it's used, and what it gets us. But this debate I'm taling about is a binary choice of whether or not to use public funds for private institution security.

Thank you for helping support our rights.

Yeah, I haven't watched awards shows in years. I'm not their demographic. Seems like a lot of others aren't either, since just about every years has a smaller audience than the preceding year.

For the record, I will be 60 next month. Not sure where the time went...

They will when they have a bigger story

As much as I hate to admit it, I suspect the 2A issue is something like 30% pro-2A, 30% anti-2A, and 40% don't care. If that's even close to accurate, decisions like this only anger a little over 1/4 of their fans. They don't take these positions as casually as you think. I bet they already know exactly how big the hit will be and how long it will last. After all, the shot-callers are money-grubbing record execs not the leftist artists, right?

I would love to see less money spent at the district level anyway. There's too many bureaucrats with multiple secretaries and too many layers of bureaucrats in general as it is. If we thin out some of that excess fat, we could afford more security without cutting the budget where it matters...in the classroom.

Just tagging in with a WAG, and just a guess from the single angle photo, but my thought is towards a manufacturing defect. As someone who has blown up a G21 with a double charge handload. All of the force of my detonation was in the chamber, grip and back of the slide. Again, just a guess based on the single view. Interested in hearing more details. Maybe seeing various angle photos... I've put a lot of rounds through 1911's and never even heard of something like this.

I would. You could cut that dust cover off at its bend point and in theory fire it safely. The guide rails are aft of the bend. I am very curious as to how that came about because I can’t think of how you could bend that in such a manner without either pretty severe mechanical force, or very substandard materials and workmanship. I actually lean one particular direction, and it isn’t the better of the two.

Just guessing... "Two is One and One is None" (always have a backup).

On average parents of kids in private school probably pay far more in taxes than the rest of us. So your comment about them helping pay for our kids education is very true. Property tax is just like income tax. The least affluent use the most services and pay the least in taxes. The most well-off pay the most in taxes and use the least gov't services.

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My property taxes pay for more than just schools right? Roads, street lights, parks. I have no plans to have children and I've never felt I'm getting screwed because of that. Private schools are a for profit business as far as I know. Thinking that tax payers should fund their security needs doesn't make any sense to me. When movie theaters decide to have security they pay an off duty cop to be there. I'm not sure why a private school should be any different

Leroy, this is one of the most meaningful statements I have ever read on TGO. I certainly do not feel I am "evil", but if I entertain thoughts that someone is "less" than myself because we do not agree about ANYTHING and as a result I begin to view them "less than", I am sowing the seeds that nurtured over time, may become evil. If we really believe that we are made in the image of God, all persons have intrinsic worth. There have been times on TGO when some have felt I was a "libetard whack job", but I have always been accorded respect and care even when we disagree. That is how at its most base level we "obstruct evil." At the very baseline of relationships, can we offer grace rather than judgment of one another? Martin Buber wrote a book called "I and Thou" and denoted there are two kinds of relationships. An "I/Thou" relationship is one where we view one another without judgment or qualification. An "I/It" relationship is where we view one another as a "thing." I vote for "I/Thou" . . .

I am a proponent of total school choice, where the money follows the child, and not tied to a specific geographical district.

I have no desire for TGO to become an echo chamber and I welcome diverse opinions so long as they constructively add to the overall dialogue, but we've reached the end of this road. Daniel, you've been a longtime member of TGO and years ago we all had quite a bit in common. Since then, something changed and I really don't have the mental bandwidth to try and figure out how or why. I forced myself to do a search on your recent posts and everything for at least the past two years, and probably longer than that, seems to consist of contrarian behavior meant to elicit a negative reaction from everyone else. I guess for your own amusement. I am going to trust that God has other people in your life who will continue to point you back toward him. But, sadly, TGO won't be that group now. It brings me no pleasure to say it, but your time here is done.

Back a few years ago I wrote to a few of our elected officials about an idea if using Veterans as security in schools. It could be a plan that could be easy to do. Most Veterans could use the extra income and Veterans live all over the country so that means most if not all live close to a school. They are all trained with firearms and would not run from an armed intruder but would move toward them and take them down. Just an idea!!!!