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They took palm branches and went out to meet him, shouting, "Hosanna! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord! Blessed is the king of Israel!" Jesus, thank you for your supreme sacrifice and for your precious blood which washes away my sin and shame, opens the gates of Heaven and makes me acceptable to your Father.

Folks... There has been lotsa opining on this tragedy. An undeniable tragedy on lotsa levels. The sadness of children murdered. The sadness of folks of good will being murdered because they simply worked at this school. The tragedy of someone so young and so full of rage and hate that they thought shooting innocents and folks who were doing good was a laudable idea. There is simply no end to this tragedy. Folks are horrified, deeply saddened, scared and repulsed by this atrocious and senseless act. That said, there have been lotsa partial solutions advanced... School hardening, armed and trained resource officers, improved mental health screening, etc. The list goes on. All these solutions have their place, but I think all of these " governmental " and " societal " solutions overlook the root problem. That is the problem of " evil ". You cannot attend to this problem of senseless murder of others by not confronting the issue of evil people doing evil things. The fact of the matter is that there is no gubt solution to evil other than eradicating the perpetrators. We want to believe that if we somehow get the right mix of protections, that this problem will go away somehow. It will not go away because of the problem of " evil ". Murder, mayhem, and killing has always been around. It's present in every society. Our society has magnified this problem because we are so balkanized, hedonistic, and devoid of the ethics of how we should treat our brothers and sisters, that many are all about themselves and have no inclination to be accommodating or kind to others with which theys disagree. Put another way; only those who are in lock step agreement are brothers, and those who disagree with us are not worthy even of life. It is my fervent belief that this is the root of the problem; and as long as there are enablers, apostles, and cheerleaders for this madness; these senseless, evil calamities will not go away. That said, in our society " freedom of speech " enables them to continue. I do, however, believe they can be minimized to a great extent if we take the steps to physically protect children in the classroom using dedicated, trained, and able personnel who will not hesitate to use deadly force to defend these innocents. The solution is not more laws or gubt regulations. The solution is to make potential malefactors count the cost of doing these things as a deterrent; and to eliminate the perpetrators when the need arises. In closing, I've tried to keep this little epistle on the secular plane, but it is undeniable that this issue touches the spiritual plane. The " God-Man " said that " you should love your brother as yourself "... This is the ultimate solution, but we live in a fallen world. Since we live in this " fallen world ", we need to clearly see that there are evil beings bent on doing evil things, and we need to be ready as both Believers and Non Believers to take decisive action to protect these most precious in our society. May this sort of tragedy never happen again. leroy...

I hope there are never this many funerals in one weekend again in my life.

It more about what the School is publicly saying on certain topics. I don’t want to “officially” (as the spouse of a member of the leadership team) release information that they are not yet officially commenting on.

I’m 66 so I’m not living in my parents house, but if they were alive I’d damn sure be trying to. Adulting Sucks!

Looking to sell my 2 styer augs, both are basically new, I still have to box for 1 but not the other, both come with the factory pmag, both odg and nato models. I’m not looking for any trades. Sold eotechs/lights not included)

Howdy everyone. The name is Jon. I was fairly active on here in what now seems like a former life! Planning on being around a little more often once again. Too many good, likeminded folks around here not to! I'm glad to see some old friends are still around and looking forward to meeting some new ones!

I am a proponent of total school choice, where the money follows the child, and not tied to a specific geographical district.

I know everything. But I don’t know what I can/should comment on.

Wonderful to take to Remembrance what Jesus did, while partaking of the Lord's Supper, at our church today. The Lord's Day. I thank You Jesus.

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Leroy, this is one of the most meaningful statements I have ever read on TGO. I certainly do not feel I am "evil", but if I entertain thoughts that someone is "less" than myself because we do not agree about ANYTHING and as a result I begin to view them "less than", I am sowing the seeds that nurtured over time, may become evil. If we really believe that we are made in the image of God, all persons have intrinsic worth. There have been times on TGO when some have felt I was a "libetard whack job", but I have always been accorded respect and care even when we disagree. That is how at its most base level we "obstruct evil." At the very baseline of relationships, can we offer grace rather than judgment of one another? Martin Buber wrote a book called "I and Thou" and denoted there are two kinds of relationships. An "I/Thou" relationship is one where we view one another without judgment or qualification. An "I/It" relationship is where we view one another as a "thing." I vote for "I/Thou" . . .

So shouldn’t those parents get back any taxes they paid? Why not if so? And I despise when people say someone doesn’t “need” the money. Who are you or anyone else to decide? They may work 3 jobs so they can send their kids there. Need has nothing to do with it. Again, provide equal money to every kid and let the parents decide. That is fair, no? Heck, we spend (waste) more money per kid than just about any other nation on school. The fair share should be more than enough for any kid to find a good education if their parents gave a damn.

Because you chose the parochial education for your kids. That's your prerogative. I'm open to vouchers for kids who couldn't afford tuition to a place like TCS, but this is giving money to a community that doesn't need it. At TCS, tuition for their largest attendance group (K-4) is $16.300 per their website; it's clearly not appropriate for the government to give them the same levels of support public schools get when they have parents with means supporting their institution. Believe me, I'll be happy if private schools source private security. This isn't me thinking those kids don't deserve the protection, it's me thinking tax payments shouldn't cover it. The parents chose to remove their children to a supposedly better educational experience...the cost burden they assume doesn't stop at tuition and fees.

There are approx. 130,000 K-12 public and private schools in the US. That Ukraine aid would work out to a hair over $200K per school. It's certainly a start.

I came back to TGO for this thread. I just didn't know it until I got here...

I would be highly disappointed if they didn’t. Also, any that might be hanging out, eat a dick.

Free medical, dental 3 meals that you dont have to prepare and a bed.

Old enough to know better, to young to care. I do fit into " Do not mess with old guys, life in jail dont mean much".

8" chef's knife, RWL34 stainless blade with Bolivian Rosewood scales, its out the door!!

That really is a great idea. An idea that I had never heard. Of course things are always way more complicated than it needs to be but this seems like a good idea.

My property taxes pay for more than just schools right? Roads, street lights, parks. I have no plans to have children and I've never felt I'm getting screwed because of that. Private schools are a for profit business as far as I know. Thinking that tax payers should fund their security needs doesn't make any sense to me. When movie theaters decide to have security they pay an off duty cop to be there. I'm not sure why a private school should be any different

AH HA! Just as I suspected. GEEZERS RULE!

Arms Fair on Trinity has a separate office next door to the store that only does transfers. $50 + TICS

It’s NEVER quiet which would drive an old guy nuts, daily high potential for violence and no freedom of movement. I’ll pass regardless how old I get.

As this is an undoubtedly "watched" site I wouldn't type anything that could/would come back to bite me. And with that being said morning alphabets

Amen Brother

Don’t leave Israel out of the equation.

Gen X represent. We are the last with any sense.

boomer thread

We as a country could put skilled, armed security in every school in America if we really wanted to. Maybe instead of sending $26.4 Billion (that's just the financial aid part) to Ukraine, we invest that into the safety of all of our children and consequently, the future of America.

First we need some peespecirve. While very tragic, the odds of somebody getting killed in a mass shooting are very very slim. I get that everybody wants to end these shootings, but completely ignore other things that are more likely to kill you. You’ll hear “if it will save just one child”, but if we banned everything that would save at least one child they would live their lives in a padded room. All that being said, these school shootings is a problem we need to deal with. I’m not sure it will ever happen though, because it is a society problem. When I was in school in the ‘80s a lot of the kids carried guns on school grounds daily, but there were no shootings. Guns were more accessible to everybody back then, but there were no school shootings. You have to ask yourself what has changed. I think a lot of it is the breakdown of the nuclear family, the internet, and video games. When I say video games, I don’t think they affect everybody, but I do think somebody that is a little unstable can be greatly influenced by them and de-sensitized to killing. I’ve personally met people that had trouble telling the difference between video game play and reality. My kids play them, but they are also exposed to real guns and know the responsibility you need to handle them and the real damage they can do. Also all this work agenda forced on kids at a very young age lends itself to emotional problems. It really all boils down people turning farther and farther away from God. That’s what it will take to solve it, but I bet there are some on this very thread aren’t willing to do what it takes, and it has nothing to do with taking away anybody’s gun. If I’m wrong, I’d love somebody to explain to me what has changed from 40 years ago until now.

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My guess would be Nashville. All the good stuff is in Nashville!

Second the Carhartt t-shirts. Work well to avoid printing without having to rely on layers or baggy clothes.

Always good to see another Bartlett member.

Adam Lanza was 20 years old when he did the shooting at Sandy Hook which was a school he had also attended years earlier. He shot and killed his mother before going to the school.

Just a reflection of the entitled self-appreciative part of our current society. Have to laugh. It's the seller's choice, folks have different standards for who to sell to, I see ads with "must have TN CCW" and I pass. Doesn't make me mad or want to start Karen crap. Besides, from the OP comments on how many he has bought/sold it sounds like a flipper. I wouldn't sell to him even if I were selling. I'm keeping everything I have for now. (see regretted sales thread) LOL

I would argue we need 100% choice of schools through a direct value per student from the government. You get $x towards school and you decide which one to go to. Every school can then be required by law to have an SRO. If you want to send your kid to private school, you pay the difference. Win/win. I personally don’t like the idea of online only and would never do it ( although I don’t have kids). They need socializing and should learn how to deal with other people. We don’t need one more way to isolate kids from others and let them think that is normal. (Referring to Greg’s idea, not the quote). At the end of the day, it should be up to the parents of each kid.

I've thought this for years, Should be a requirement for all schools, regardless of public or private.

We can talk about "seeing into next week" and not catch the evil. I see putting LEO into every school as a GOOD step into the direction that will stop school shootings. Next step, allowing firearms in the school as protection with trained people to use the firearms.

I believe it was Knife Rights that helped get the Tennessee laws brought into the 21st century. I know they were active on this site at one time. Links below: https://kniferights.org/how-to-find-local-knife-laws/ They are a good organization and I support them.

How much with out the hand guard?

It’s improper etiquette to haggle in the thread. That should be done via DM/PM