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But to what extent do CNN, MSNBC, and Fox truly only shill for themselves? Their main goal is to get you outraged about something, which in turn means you come back for more, same bat time, same bat channel. It's not about red vs blue but rather green, green, green baby.

I'm literally open to any suggestions. I've had a bunch of fun, the last few months, bringing a few old rifles back to life. A couple of old 1930s Husqvarnas, a knackered old Remington a cut-down K98 & I'm presently working on the world's (previously) UGLIEST Carcano bubba-job. Turns out, that working on projects like this, along with working on getting my bike how I want it, are really helping my depression. I went from a lifetime of building things, to working a job for the last 14 years that whilst enjoyable, doesn't have the same sense of satisfaction as starting with nothing & finishing with a useful product. So I'm looking for old, disused, manky, rusty old rifles i can, if not restore, then at least refinish & remodel into working, things. Previously "sporterized" are preferable, that way I won't be accidentally devaluing a collectible piece. When I'm done with them, I'll offer them back to the original seller for whatever i pay, plus whatever actual parts I need to source (with receipts). My time will be free. If the original seller doesn't want it back, I'll either keep it or offer it up on the open market for an extra, say, $50? I'm 100% NOT trying to make any money, not trying to be or learn to be a gunsmith, I'm just looking for the sense of satisfacion of making at least a polycotton blend purse from a sow's ear I really don't want to spend tons, probably $300 max & old & rusty would be preferred over modern & just broken.

Shot very little. In excellent, as-new condition. Includes (original Ruger brand Magazines): (6) 30 round magazines, (1) 20 round magazine and (2) 5 round magazines. Includes Box, papers, and factory scope rings. SOLD

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/credit-card-companies-pause-implementation-of-new-gun-purchase-tracking-code/amp/ According to that it’s “paused”. If you are that concerned pay cash.

You might need to turn the camera around and point it at the ones in suits behind the microphones. They certainly don’t listen to the people on a whole lot of other issues.

Was watching Johnny Carson the other he had Walter Cronkite on as a guest he was a good news man also. Loved his timex comercials. Even the local paper is not so local any more most of the stories are AP wire news feeds. Really don't watch much network news, makes my head want to explode, mostly read news

How great would it be to have someone like Walter Cronkite on any news network. Tell us the facts and let us make up our own minds. Unfortunately don't know that we will be able to see that again. (I did participate in the poll!)

DEFINITELY a perishable skill.

That’s pretty much everyone whether the admit it or not.

Spent the first half of the week riding to western Arkansas with my son. Awesome weather and great roads, once we got two Missouri. Spent today heading back in a very cold wet drizzle. Soaked, cold, lots of stops to thaw out, and still smiling! Tomorrow should be better.

That includes a 5 minute commercial break.

In the 1980s, I was active in shooting along with LEOs in my town. I purchased a Colt Trooper from an Officer who was retiring. I guess my inventory is quite outdated but to my eyes, they are beautiful. Although not shown, I added ergonomic competition grips which helped my scores significantly. This is my wife's favorite firearm at the range.

I miss David Brinkley. I watched him "News Hour" for years and years before I finally discovered that he was a conservative. CNN and MSNBC don't even try to hide that they're shilling for the left. Fox shills for the right. I try to read a wide variety of news sources, (though I just can't get through an MSNBC article) but I still have trouble sorting out what's true and not. It's rare these days to read a hard news piece that doesn't have some opinion tossed into it. "Reporters" or more accurately, producers, cherry pick the statistics and quotes that they use to advance their narratives. "Gotcha" politics prevails, and when a politician can't give his honest opinion for fear of having it twisted to fit an opposing agenda then we know that the media doesn't serve us at all. I spent 24 years as a volunteer firefighter and I never read a story that had all the facts straight on any of the incidents I attended. And that was a small, local news outlet covering local events. I can't imagine how a huge organization based in New York can hope to get it right about anything at all.

Have you tried Lego sets? I'm close to 400 sets

I find myself reading all news networks. There isn't "one you can trust", even with local news. The spin is always there so if it's a topic i feel heavily about, i read as many places as i can to decide. Now, that's far and few between because i find that my life and happiness improve SIGNIFICANTLY by not turning on the news at all.

Carlson and Maddow both used this defense and won. They are more alike than they are different. A federal judge on Thursday dismissed a lawsuit against Fox News after lawyers for the network argued that no "reasonable viewer" would take the network's primetime star Tucker Carlson seriously. https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-karen-mcdougal-case-tucker-carlson-2020-9?op=1

12 gauge, side by side, in the best condition I have ever seen on one of these. Don't get me wrong, it is used, but still has some case colors present and is in good original condition for its grade and age ~120 years old. Have inspected by gunsmith before firing, but I have shot RST low pressure loads through it without issue. This one is for the collectors. SOLD

I feel like a lot of people either disregard, discount, or do not adequately appreciate the Sig P938 pistols. I have had mine for..... 6 years? I've never had a single malfunction or other issue. Maybe its a "1911 style" pistol and so I'm being to nit picky since everyone loves a good 1911 but I see people selling P938's all the time and it always seems like they are slow to be picked up. Conversely everyone nowadays seems to be wanting a SigP365 or some such "new gun." No offense to those new polymers but the P938 with extended mags is a great pocket pistol with no printing even in athletic shorts.

Welcome to TGO from a neighbor. Great bunch

The shoulder bill was limited to interstate and highways. And it was only under very specific circumstances. And you couldn’t go more than 5 mph faster than traffic, and only to the next exit. In my mind, it was a perfect bill to protect us and our bikes.

Smith and Wesson M&P core with stipple job, suppressor height night sights , sig Romeo , and a bladetech iwb/owb holster . This is a 9mm . The only trades I’m interested in is sig p320 parts , sig 9mm pistols ( no 365s) , and beretta pistols in 9mm , mostly m9 series but I also like the compact 92x rdo . I won’t add cash , I won’t sell , I don’t have to sell . Im In Portland Tn , for trading values we will base it off of retail to retail

I doubt SB0298/HB1454 will pass but it would certainly be nice. I already filter regularly, legally in states that allow it and illegally when necessary anywhere else. Just did so on Tuesday when traffic came to an unexpected stop on Briley Pkwy. I would rather take the ticket than get run over from behind by some inattentive phone reading mouth breather. Less than 80 days now till I depart for my next long ride. Should be a bit more than 10,000 miles this time around. Just have to burn the last off this current set of tires and get some new ones mounted next month.

I can pick up a rifle once a year and be fairly proficient with it. A handgun has never been that way for me. If I don’t shoot them often, I really struggle.

I hate helmet laws, although you’ll never see me on a bike without one. Lane splitting is a very bad idea in my mind. So is riding on the shoulder.

I'll take it as long as it has a magazine which I am sure it does. I'll PM you.

TN legislature is considering two new proposals: One, HB0042/SB1450 , will allow motorcyclists to ride without helmets, with some exceptions. The other, SB0298/HB1454, will allow lane splitting (or filtering). I first started riding on the street in California in the early 70's, where helmets were not required and lane-splitting was legal. I'm old now, and more cautious, and I personally would not ride on the street without a helmet, but I think that those who want to should be allowed. I REALLY like the idea of legal lane-splitting, which makes a lot of sense to me. I think the main opposition to lane splitting is that some people hate to see motorcyclists get to move a little more freely. If you ride, check out the proposals.

I understand. Just some evil I don’t really want in my home.

As I posted earlier in this thread, my Python is unquestionably my favorite .357. But, that being said, my Ruger Blackhawk in .357 is mighty fine, too.

You’re kidding about the police imposters, right? You’re not actually serious that you’ve not heard any stories of police imposters, are you? The stories are legion and not just in the apocryphal “my cousin’s sister’s uncle’s grandmother had that happen” sense. There are literally page after page of search results of folks being arrested for it nationwide and I remember news stories about it going back to my childhood. It’s the entire reason that there are statutes regarding the kinds and colors of lights on vehicles. Unmarked cars should never be used for traffic stops. As far as the legality/constitutionality of pre-textual stops, I don’t dispute that. I still think it’s a just course of action for the people’s representatives to ban their use like how I don’t support the use of no-knock warrants. Even if something is “technically” ok, doesn’t make it just or right. I also don’t deny that it makes the job of police harder. Then again, I’ve always maintained that it’s supposed to be hard. If it were easy, it’s be an entirely different kind of terrible place to live.

Hmmm. I think I need some gloves to complete my ensomble. LOL! But then, I'm a reformed mall ninja fading away like an old fat man reliving his past!

I don't think anyone is saying that. And that's fine. Most people seem to think MPD's issues are wide spread and started long before they murdered Tyre Nichols. Sometimes an event like this is the catalyst needed for change. The fact that they are taking this seriously and show willingness to make changes seems like a good thing to me. How often have we seen departments come to the conclusion they did nothing wrong?

Good Morning/Afternoon All, New to the area and retired LEO/Military, originally from the Carolinas with family in Tennessee. Gun enthusiast, 1911 fan and can’t say No to the older Colts, the jury is still out on the CZ ownership of Colt, although I own one and the quality seems to be the same. Looking forward to the Tennessee Gun Owners Community coming from the Georgia Community of Gun Owners. Thanks to all and God Bless the USA.

I’m feeling this. “Republicans lie and democrats leave out key pieces of the truth that would make for a more nuanced discussion.” -Chris Rock

I truly believe there was massive election fraud. Especially with the mail-in vote. But I also believe it was on both sides. The democrats just cheated better.

I've never watched Fox news. But then, I take all of MSM with a very healthy grain of salt. Always remember that the News programs are just another TV show. They fight for ratings just like your favorite sit-com. Plus they all have their own agenda.

All of the cable news networks are entertainment outlets aimed at a specific audience biases. None should be trusted at all for any reason. They wish not to disseminate truth or understanding. They simply want to keep your eyeballs glued to their screen and will say whatever it takes to accomplish that. It’s a good thing to understand that they’re all dying businesses.

Continuing with those thoughts, let's discuss why penetration is more important than expansion or caliber size. All too often we read comments on gun forums and hear comments in real-life discussions about the perils of "over penetration" in self-defense shootings and ultimately the conversation turns toward the notion that a mythical sweet-spot exists wherein a cartridge provides adequate penetration yet not too much. When you consider the dynamics of a self-defense encounter (the distance at which the shooting may take place, the way that the body of the individual receiving fire may be angled, intermediate barriers between them and the shooter, the anatomy of the individual being shot at, etc.) then it becomes obvious that it is quite literally impossible to load a cartridge that will provide just enough penetration for every single instance. As illustrated in my preceding post, the temporary cavity effects and permanent tissue damaging effects of handgun cartridges make them poor performers when compared to the incapacitation qualities of rifle calibers. While a subject shot with a handgun caliber may indeed bleed out from a minor would given time, a self-defense shooting requires quicker incapacitation of the subject resulting in a more immediate elimination of the threat. Barring mortal injury to the central nervous system (CNS) via the bullets fired, the most effective means of dealing with the threat is to use a cartridge capable of penetrating deep enough into the subject so as to reach the large blood-bearing vessels and organs in the torso. Failing this, rapid physiological incapacity of the threat is unlikely. In comparison, if a bullet completely penetrates and exits the subject, the bullet will have had enough penetration to reach the critical organs and vessels and will more likely have caused hemorrhaging sufficient to induce hypovolemic shock in the subject. Second to CNS trauma, this is the only reliable means of incapacitating the subject. This bears out two points: 1. Shot placement is critical in any self-defense shooting, not only because of the liability attached to each bullet fired, but but also because failing to deliver shots accurately to the areas most likely to incapacitate the subject will result in that subject remaining a threat. 2. Penetration is king when choosing self-defense cartridges. If you have to choose between penetration and expansion, choose the former.