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Most of us raise our kids and tell them to be capitalist, but we give them everything without requiring them to work for it. Capitalism = good Socialism = bad We raise them in Socialism. We tell them they are special. Everyone gets a trophy. No bullying ever. They get older and realize that their not special. They have to work to get what they want and the first time they fail or someone says bad things to them, they can't cope. This is our fault as a society. We need to let them fail when they're 5 years old. We need to teach them how to deal with people that say bad things. That's the problem. We have to fix it and that's someone else's job. We are too busy for that nonsense.

Somebody's tinfoil hat is way too tight. There's no question that the victim disarmament lobby will use this tragedy to their advantage, but asserting that the government planned this is getting into the Alex Jones region of insanity. Whisper

Then you are extremely fortunate if that’s actually the case. Many folks vastly overestimate how much mental health coverage they really have until they find the need to make use of it. Most health insurance provides very little to no coverage for mental health. My wife and I are dealing with this issue now as she is wanting to pursue therapy that has been long put off and is still holding off because of the expenses involved are very difficult to make work. (We have a heavy load of medical expenses related to two of our kids being in therapy for sensory processing issues.) Hell, I’m probably going to be selling a few guns to help defray those costs. That’s not a “woe is me” tale, but simply saying you’re being awfully glib about a subject that is a major concern and struggle for a lot of folks. You’re speaking from either a place of great privilege or ignorance or just maybe even a little of both.

Actual problem is mental illness, Very hard to address. A solution would be to put more armed individuals in the schools to protect the unarmed innocent ones.

Just saw Biden's speech. Naturally he went after the "Gun Lobby". It ain't about guns. Its about the breakdown of our society and the loss of moral values. No new law will fix that.

Kid in drag doesn't appear to be the shooter, but the parallels to Sandy Hook are striking, seems like the grandmother, like Lanza's mother, had worked for the school according to some articles. I don't think him ending up there was a coincidence, more than likely he meant to end up there. He was engaged at the entrance, by one, then two additional LEOs, but he outgunned the first, at the door, and went in. How we can afford to send a foreign country billions yet not spend anything to fortify our schools is mind numbing. We need to be like Israel and train and arm our teachers to be the final line of defense against these nut jobs. School Drop-Out Gave Warning on Facebook Minutes Before Uvalde Massacre (yahoo.com)

How do you think we should pay for mental health services then? We know it's not affordable for the avg joe. Bring back the insane asylums!

Because government is NOT the answer. We have this problem because of government and a breakdown in society.

Because it’s a knee-jerk reaction that does not address the actual problem?

Buy with confidence from a stand up guy!

Mail in ballots and the mules.

GI got this email earlier. It’s very nice but I’m not for sure why it has been given the “new” label? Anyone know what the ‘Elite’ aspect carries with it? I’m honestly curious to know. ThanksMor ris ( Sent from ProtonMail for

Young fella, you have every right to hold this opinion, or any other one for that matter, but, if you want to have people respect your ideas, what you should strive for is to qualify your statements with the factual evidence that you used to reach your opinion. Many people in this age have strong opinions to share, but very seldom do you hear how they got there. This statement that you made earlier would be a very irresponsible thing to put into circulation if you cannot back it up with factual evidence. I think you will find that you are in the company of some extremely well informed and intelligent Tennesseans (myself excluded, obviously) who know a thing or two about our government, and may not appreciate here-say…which is basically a statement that makes an assertion yet lacks the evidence to confirm whether or not it’s the truth. Look, please don’t think that I’m picking on you here, because I am not. Rather, I’m trying to give you some helpful advice. Making a claim like the one that you made is akin to what is being fed to the misinformed every waking hour from the corrupt news media in this country. Thanks to social media, non-events are flamed into conflagrations in no time flat because we are living in a time where people simply react in a knee jerk fashion rather than take the time to find out whether something is true or not. Sometimes, God forbid, innocent people get hurt. This is tragic. What if some day in the future you work for an employer who bids on, say, a government contract? Perhaps this contract requires you to obtain a clearance to work on a sensitive piece of equipment. When those fact finders dig into your life (and they most certainly will), a statement where you publicly go on record and blame the government for a heinous act such as the one perpetrated by that disturbed young man will not be to your advantage. When we hit ‘send’, our words go out into cyberspace and you can’t simply reel it back in. Do I agree with that? No, no I do not. Everyone has said things, thought things, even done things that they regret as soon as it happens (myself very much included!). People change, opinions change, people grow, mature, become wiser, smarter and to judge someone’s lifelong merits based on a tweet or text is the definition of insanity…but these are the times we are living in, unfortunately. These terrible events are not going to go away. They are here to stay and they’ll keep getting worse because the die has been cast and there’s no turning back. We as a nation have collectively turned our back on the only One who could possibly right this sinking ship. Professing to be wise, we’ve become as fools. It is far too late to save this country but, thankfully, people can still be SAVED. Brothers, if you want to understand why these things are happening, just search the Scriptures. Solomon (who has the distinction of being the wisest mortal to have ever lived) wrote “there is nothing new under the sun”. Think about that for a minute….all the ‘advances’ our society has made…the technology, even! It’s nothing new, only packaged differently is all. It was Paul the Apostle who reminded/warned us in Ephesians Chap 6 and verse 12 that “we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places”. Just in case anyone isn’t familiar with “principalities, powers, and rulers”, those are different ranks, or classes of wicked supernatural entities that serve the (little g) god of this world, also known as “the Prince of the Power of the Air” - our Adversary, Satan and this is all his doing. This domain is his until Christ returns to take it from him. Come quickly, Lord Jesus.

That’s a cute answer, but what about the mentally ill homeless and those without insurance?

all the “trans” images are not the shooter.

I'll just wait for a M&P that says 'Made in Tennessee"

The Feds never let a gun tragedy go to waste.

Ya beat me to it. Great to see this length option, almost got the 5.25 and glad I didn’t. I have the 4.5” 9mm version and it’s a fantastic gun with outstanding accurate. Definitely getting one!

When Democrats propose more government spending for mental health then they are quickly shot down by the same people blaming these incidents on mental health.

Call Anthony’s Armory in Red Bank. Last I heard they had reasonable rates. Carter’s in Harrison was around $50 the last time I checked. Not sure about anyone else.

I will 2nd this.

No, but I suspect there will soon be talk of mail-in ballots.

Reduced from $1900 to $1600 for quick sale. Found something else I want. The Original Henry Rifle is virtually identical to its history-making forerunner in all aspects. The only exception: it is a .44-40 caliber. The 1860 version was made in caliber .44 Rimfire, also invented by Benjamin Tyler Henry, but long an obsolete cartridge. Every other facet remains true to its inventor, and each gun’s serial number begins with the initials BTH in his honor. Model Number: H011 Action Type: Lever Action Caliber: .44-40 Capacity: 13 + 1 Length: 43 in. Barrel Length: 24 in. Weight: 9 lbs. Stock: Fancy American Walnut Buttstock with Hardened Brass Buttplate Sights: Folding Ladder Rear Blade Front Finish: Hardened Brass Receiver with Blued Steel Barrel Great condition. Will include some ammunition. No box $1600 Can meet within 50 miles

Amen to the last 2 paragraphs. It's a Godlesss Society we live in or as you said a society being run by the adversary. Satan has taken over and theres no way god is happy looking down at all the things going on. I'm not necessarily talking about this event here as much as all the other crap going on in the country. He is a vengeful God and people need to get to know him quick, I'm not sure how much time we have left. i'll be on that narrow path right there with you JD.

One last note that I'll add... and take it for what it's worth. If you are into RVing, the cost really isn't about fuel, etc. It's about time with your family. I've spent a zillion bucks on my truck, fuel, and the RV I used to have, but it's all been worth the experiences I've had with my family. It's all been worth the cost, a million times over. Money is tight these days, but if you can make some memories and spend some good times with your family, go for it.

They say the K in monkey is silent.

Any idea when that might be

That unfortunately is not working for a lot of Americans. I have read stories in the past about people who wanted to get mental health treatment and couldn't get the help the needed. People both with and without insurance. It's an broken system. That said, I think mental illness is only part of the issue here along with a bunch of other societal and cultural problems we have.

Give it some time. After all, they aren't that smart.

I think I knida would like 1 of these- But there is a slight misconception that 10mm is comparable to .41 mag-it's really not- 41 Mag 210gr at roughly 1450 fps-compared to 180gr at 1250 fps- 10mm is close but still no banana-

It’s Firearms Plus. They in with a ring and pinion / wrecking service. Use to sell firearms years ago, but kept his ffl to keep doing transfers.

Mark Scott at Scott Bookkeeping charges $30 cash.That includes the background check.He does a lot of transfers.

This is where my mind goes.... how does a guy with a rifle just walk into an elementary school? The court house has lots of cops, metal detectors, and locked doors inside locked doors. Yet this guy just walks into a school? Same with Sandy Hook, Parkland, and Columbine. Mental health is clearly a big problem, but just because people are crazy doesn't mean they're stupid. I hard target isn't so appealing.

And this school supposedly had top notch security...in their minds

Seriously? Where have you been?

I agree, but what is the actual problem? I don't understand what drives people to keep doing this. That's why coming up with any sort of solution seems so unlikely.

I have started making my own. Will post some for sale later. I just finished a flat back/pancake for my Taurus 608. For now, check ETSY for your Tracker field holster. (mirror image. noy left handed)

God can do anything, and does. Adding my prayers along with you.....Amen!

Once again…. impeccable timing. That is all I have to say about this.

Got a few more things in the mail for it. 4 more HK 30rnd. mags, and a HOLSUN 510 that I just installed still need to put in the new flat trigger pack I bought a couple of weeks ago. Once I get that installed I'm heading to the range and try it out.

I'll get some pics of mine tonight and share them. I've got my medkit (IFAK) smack dab in the middle of my back. I like to keep it pretty slick on my strong side. I'm always tweeking something on it.

Bum Up You Say-

The grip angle of Glocks is one of the reason I sold all my other handguns and replaced them with their Glock counterpart. (it all started back when Glock was the only manufacture selling compact and full size 10mm handguns) Shooting exclusively with Glocks, my natural point of aim is dead on with them. But if I ever pick up another handgun, I'm way off!

After some discussions on here I decided to go to windrock range today for some much needed relaxing shooting. I was very pleased with the range there. Talked to the owner for a few minutes, very pleasant and personable. I like how the range was set up and met some new fellow shooters. Definitely a place I will be back to soon. one of the pistols that I shot was my Rex Zero 1. Man what a beast 400 rounds of steel ringing fun with zero hiccups. The recoil was light and the trigger in double action was very nice. I highly recommend both for inexpensive fun

I remember my Grandparents had what I guess was a root cellar. You could stand up in it but it was only about 6-8' wide and maybe 10-12 feet long. Had floor to ceiling shelves on both sides. In the Fall the shelves would be full from floor to ceiling with canning jars full of everything plus a few bushel baskets of potatoes, squash and other things plus bags of onions. She canned fruit, vegetables even meat. She also made the best noodles. She would set up a regular production run in the kitchen and make enough for a few months after they were dried and stored properly. These days they would be called preppers but that was how they got through the depression and just kept doing it. My grandfather always had a huge garden and they had several fruit trees on their lot. Grandpa also hunted and fished so that helped. One of my memories visiting them was running with the neighbor kids catching chickens. There was a small processing plant a couple of blocks away and the chickens were always getting loose before they could be killed. Told my grandpa that the plant would gives us kids a nickel for every chicken we caught. He said he would give us dime. So we had a new customer.