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Oh yes. We may be a bit less uncouth, (we don’t do things like run around screaming from the top of our lungs about “two world wars!”) but we are still very passionate about what is the pinnacle of JMB’s pistol designs.

No idea. I've read that oil isn't as non-renewable as most folks claim or assume, though. Which makes sense if you consider that oil is basically the result of decomposition and incredible pressure and thermal forces. That stuff is still happening deep beneath us.

First Generation (aka "Old") slide on left. Second Generation (aka "New") slide on right. In a move that has set Walther owners groups afire on social media, Walther has revised the optics cut on their new PDP Pro SD model, inspiring owners of first-generation PDPs to wonder if this is just a public relations move meant to smooth over hobbyist accusations that the previous design was flawed, or if it is a silent acknowledgement that the previous design really was flawed after all. The new optics cut is dimensionally the same as the first-generation, however instead of having a flat floor beneath the mounting plate and relying solely on interference fit and two screws to hold the optics plate and optic in places, the new design introduces recessed "recoil bossses" into which protrusions from new design optics plates will sit. It would appear that first-generation optics plates will be forward compatible with the second-generation PDP slides, but the reverse will not be true. Obviously, if second-generation plates have recoil posts descending from beneath them to fit into these recessed pockets on the new slides, then those second-generation plates would not be backward compatible with the flat, smooth floor of the first-generation slides. It remains to be seen if Walther or third-parties, such as C&H or other machinists, will be able to retrofit the first-generation slides for compatibility. All of this seems to tie back to a very controversial YouTube video made by an amateur engineer wannabe, posted last year. You can see it here. And of course, I would be remiss if I did not point out that the extremely reputable Aaron Cowan of Sage Dynamics did his own torture test of the first-generation PDP and found absolutely NO MERIT to the previous YouTuber's claims. I know that if I have to pick who I am going to trust between these two, it is Aaron. And physics. And Aaron understands physics. You can see Aaron's video here.

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WARNING: Don't click this link if you are a Hi-Power Purist and cannot stomach the notion of progress. [SHOT 2022] The Modern Hi-Power, the EAA/Girsan MC P35 Match -The Firearm Blog Caliber: 9×19 Barrel Length: 4.87″ Capacity: 15+1 Finish: Cerakote in black, FDE, or two-tone silver/grey Trigger: SAO MSRP: TBD Release Date: TBD

Two Lightly used Glocks for Sale. Model 33 Gen 4, 357Sig......500.00 Model 29 Gen 4, 10mm.....550.00 Both I would guess have less than a few hundred rounds if that, Original box and grips, lock, brush, manual ,magazines included. FTF in Memphis area, Tn DL and permit, bill of sale required.

Well I'll be damned! I hadn't even noticed that. People have spelled it both ways for many years. Oh well, just spelling. We all know what they mean. Still trying to trick people with a classic name on a pigs ear. Marketing at its finest.

Exactly my point. HOW DARE FN call that morphodite a Hi-Power.

I've been thinking about this and realize that my whole objection to this thing is its name. It is NOT a Hi-Power. Not even close. I feel downright insulted that FN would call it that. But because they did, I felt obligated to nit pick it to death. Which actually wasn't too hard to do. I do believe that if they had called it anything else, I just might like this gun. It does seem to be well made. Not like it enough to buy one, but at least I probably wouldn't hate it.

Actually I DO like it. I got nothing against modern upgrades. Not really my thing, but I can appreciate it for others who want them. I admit, I could be tempted if I run across one. After all, it is still an actual Hi-Power. Ain't nuthin' wrong with that. WOW! 2022 is turning into the year of the Hi-Power!

Looks better than those FN things, even with the rail.

Between you and LEGION I need a Memphis shuttle. GLWS

So I have two thoughts. Never, ever, ever use your weapon mounted light as a "flashlight" if you don't need the gun it's attached to. Me personally? I'd rather a criminal take shots at my weapon mounted light in the dark than for me to shoot someone by accident that I love dearly because I couldn't see them. On the first point, I didn't see it but my buddy swears up and down that he did. We were in South Pittsburgh, TN. My Wife was participating in a dress rehearsal at the theater (historic theater, called "The Princess" there late one night. My buddy and I were sitting up in the balcony waiting for everyone to finish up for the night. At some point two police officers enter the balcony (generally just to check on what was going on, I suppose). I did see the police offers. What I didn't see but my buddy says he did was that one of the officers removed his service weapon to use his weapon mounted light to see the dark walkway so he didn't trip. It does happen, I don't advise it.

The Zastava M85 like the one I sold recently, seems to be making a comeback. You might take look at it. Although mine was unfired, I did get some rounds thru one, and was pleased with it. Just sayin'.

The contender has it's limitations My favorite .308 bore barrel is either the 30-30AI or the 308 Bellm (shown here) It's taken quite a few whitetails anywhere inside of 225 yards is a piece of cake! ... and it's only a 14" barrel with an added muzzle brake

I never realized that the Hi-Power had such a religious following. Apparently as much, if not more so, than the 1911. Interesting.

Correct about interest in the Hi-Power never fading. I still carry my Browning that I bought in 1972.

The couch commandos have convinced the internet that going into a gun fight with anything less than 1000 rounds of ammo is suicide.

SOLD

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A couple of things... " Oil ".... There is plenty... We know where lots of it is... Fracking made the US the largest energy produced in the world until the new regieme took over. " The future of electric vehicles "... Watch the Israelis for new battery technology... About one more iteration will make it right... Watch the European heavy truck industry and users... If they work there, it's finally feasible... Finally.... Don't believe the " we are out of resources hype "... We ain't... Electric vehicles are most likely your kid's future, not yours... All this from an old engineer crumudgeon... About 40 years in the electric power industry... That is all... Predicting leroy...

I'll try to quote Tom Givens, "high capacity means you get to reload less, not shoot more."

The difference between this and the FN offering is that this is still an HiPower inside. It’s got some modern upgrades on it, but it is undeniably still a HP.

I'd give Kahrman's comment 100 likes if I could. IMHO this is one of the most useful features of classified ads. Also, I'll add my thanks to TGO David for always working on ways to improve the site.

glad you are making progress. hope the estimated time is exaggerated. my politeness is situational. if my new buick broke down I would not be as polite as if my used "new to me" chevy broke.

Roger that. I have plenty of .45s that I seldom shoot and yet I am longing for that one. You should buy it soon so that I am no longer tempted.

Congratulations. Again, congratulations. Apply for a job with Tesla in their rescue squad. With your impeccable attention to detail and careful forethought, you should be a shoe-in for someone to drive around in a Diesel F250 with a generator to rescue stranded Tesla motorists. It has been decades since I ran out of gasoline in a car. I am pretty sure I was a teenager and still new to it. BUT... If I am traveling across country or am going to be off-roading, I take spare fuel with me. Why? Because I'm not an idiot. And because things happen. And because Murphy's law is a bitch. Which goes back to me not being an idiot. Now, for an anecdotal story: Back in 2010, my wife and I decided to travel across country and see the American southwest. We were driving my 2010 Toyota FJ Cruiser, which had the aerodynamic qualities of a flying cinderblock. We were on Interstate 40 somewhere between San Antonio, TX and Albuquerque, NM and had been timing our fuel stops to maximize distance between them without cutting it needlessly close. What we weren't expecting was to find that at two of the exits we were counting on, the gas stations had gone out of business and were abandoned. After I coasted into the third exit quite a distance later, on what had to be fumes and prayers, I topped off the tank and immediately headed to the nearest Wal-Mart Supercenter to buy a pair of 5-gallon fuel cans to begin carrying with us. That was my exposure to #### happening despite good planning. Now, I recognize that your planning and attention to detail and maybe even the Fairy Godmother assigned to you are all far superior to mine since you've never been in that predicament, but for me that proved the necessity of being prepared for the unexpected. And with a Tesla? You don't get that option. I hope that you are given enough advance notice of that level of disaster that you can be sure that you're in the right vehicle.

So where does the capacity/round carry debate end? We have 20/21 round mags for most pistols these days, with aftermarket offerings of 30+ and eventhe 50 round AR-type mags that weigh a ton loaded. So picture the old fat man, i.e. me, going out with a pistol with 20 rounds on his belt, and 2 or more mag carriers on the opposite side. I'm now weighted down with 6-10 pounds of additional mass. That's rough on the old back. Could asways go to bandoliers and sling pouches I guess. I remember the days when I/we all felt ok with one extra mag!

These are great points and handled in good training. A handheld flashlight and a wml aren’t an either or situation. They’re complimentary and one should have both.

Just used a hammer to set a roll of caps off. Works but not all go off on one stroke. Don't remember what the caliber of the hammer head was

It is very much a reasonable price. It is just a niche caliber. If I was in that part of TN this week I’d’ve already picked it up. Depending on my schedule next week, I might be in touch.

If you were only in middle TN. The .45 is calling me!

Oh I know. Just wanted a post with all the links in it, that are easy to find. Didn’t figure it would get a lot of traction.

Pay really close attention to this statement. I've seen a video of the process and it's almost medieval the way it's done almost entirely by hand. Couple that with the fact that dealing with priming compounds is extremely dangerous, which is why they're handled wet and in explosion proofed rooms and you have a hiring, regulatory and and insurance nightmare. If adding capacity was cheap and easy to do, the ammo manufacturers would have already done it several times over, if for nothing else than meeting their own needs. I doubt you would ever obtain the necessary permits to open a new plant, similar facilities that once manufactured flares and other explosive components have been hounded out of business in many communities, including some right here in Tennessee (to be fair, many of these had truly atrocious safety records, some were well known for routine explosions). Finally, the entire gun, ammo and component business is excessively cyclical, it's "boom or bust" most of the time, which is one of the reasons why companies are hesitant to add more capacity. There's no guarantee that once this extra capacity (and expense) comes online that it won't be left idling once we enter another of the "bust" periods. We're currently in one of the periodic "boom" cycles, but as the old-timers always said, 'this too shall pass" at some point ...

I've always just sprung for the original when it matters And while I like the attempt at new innovation and bringing back a classic unless I find one used from a disgusted new buyer the price point leaves me hunting still for new, like new, or barley used originals ive grown to love.

Here's another photo of the new FN. As usual, click it for a higher resolution look at them. PS: Anyone who says they don't like the way they look is nuts. IMO.

Well, I gotta say that you level-headed folks have made a great point. I got caught up in the excitement of the new announcement and the quality that FN brings to the table. The BHP is a classic. Pure and simple. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If FN wants to make a host of changes then it is just another "wonder-nine" and it doesn't excite me as much. I'm back to waiting for my SA-35 to come available.............. thanks for the sanity check.

I like my gas powered truck but I recognize change is inevitable. I imagine people complained when we made the switch from horse to automobile too.

Until we secure the voting process, it is a dangerous game proposing a Convention of States, where they can vote to abolish the 2A instead.

Not as much as you would think. That round actually does pretty good all the way down to about 8 inches.

You are always trying to make TGO better. It shows. Thanks

This is a good point. Deleting may be excessive vs shifting to archives or the bottom of the que. That way available items stay in the front but reference material is available for specific search's

EVs are going to be the CFLs of the light bulb world. Too many issues. Too few recharging stations for long mileage trips. The future will be hydrogen vehicles. Toyota just managed to get 845 miles from a single fueling of a car. Granted it was under a perfect set of circumstances, but, still way further than an EV could do. Toyota Mirai Sets Guinness World Record: 845 Miles On Hydrogen (insideevs.com)

I love it. My next gun! Do they make scope rails for that? I don't mean to seem a litter at about the contender, I live two miles away from the fin feather fur. It's kind of like a Gander Mountain. That's where I bought my first one. They don't sell them any more. Have to drive 30 miles to get one.