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I hope everyone involved is ok, but you touch upon something important here. The newer LED style lights that have come into use definitely increase visibility during the daytime and that is great for increasing safety then. At night they are blindingly bright. To the point of being dangerous in my opinion. That “deer in the headlights” phenomenon you mentioned is real. I find them to be so painfully bright that I often have been forced to look away from the forward view and just watch the road line on the opposite side of where the car is. It prevents me from being able to maintain full and complete view of the road. When I’m at the wheel of 80k pounds of vehicle, this is extremely dangerous for everyone involved. Those lights need a nighttime setting.

Well, like Greg, I can lay a hand on one fairly easy. And believe it or not I've added 3 since the pic was taken. RP

All of you seem to forget that there are four rules and they can never be ignored. Ignorance is not a defense. 1. All guns are always loaded. 2. Never point a gun at anything you aren't willing to destroy. 3. Finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot. 4. Know your target and what is beyond it. You can break any one of these rules and generally there are no severely negative consequences. The rules are designed that way. Sometimes we MUST break a rule (field stripping a glock for instance). But we should be cognizant of the other three rules in those cases. Alec broke three rules. He ignored rule one and broke rules two and three. Are other people culpable in this situation? Yes. But as firearms owners we should never try and justify someone else's negligence. I don't care that he doesn't know guns or like them. I don't care. He has to use one for his role so he should educate himself. He should be as close to an expert as he can get in the time allotted. Could you imagine a cop that didn't like guns just going on the force, or a security guard? Their dislike is NOT a defense to whatever bad action they might take. In a perfect world, the two shot wouldn't be anywhere near in front of the gun. There are remote controls and viewing devices that could have allowed them to be in a safe location. But we don't live in a perfect world. In this world, Alec, the person that handed him the gun, and the people in charge should be held responsible for this lady's death. Each of them is equally responsible.

Ignorance doesn't make negligence an accident.

My magazines are stamped Made in Italy. Look to be mec gar mags with the springfield logo engraved on them. I recieved my gun Friday, Its definitely worth the msrp, I would have waited had i not got in early before the crazy price war. I cleaned it and ran 2 magazines of 147 gr speer lawman through it, very accurate, smooth shooting gun. Trigger pull measured 4.5 pounds, crisp break. sights are good, pistol felt well balanced and typical springfield good fit and finish. Im very happy with this gun and am on the list for another one, but i wont overpay for it. I'll put more rounds through it this week, been super busy the last few days. Pics i have are too big to attach, but it really is a very nice weapon.

I been reloading since I was 18. Im now 69 and still reloading. I think the savings in reloading depends on which caliber you are loading for. At one time before all the shortages to me it wasnt worth it to load some of the pistol calibers as you could buy them cheaper. Ive slowed down on reloading now on some of it but still reload my black powder rifles alot. It keeps me shooting and I really enjoy throwing those big balls at swingin steel

I joined the Navy the day after my 18th birthday in '62. Put in 21 years, 15 of which were sea duty, working in an electrical/mechanical field. After I retired, I went to work for the Postal Service and worked as an Electronics Tech maintaining and repairing the mail sorting equipment at the Mail Distribution Center in Memphis. I retired from there after 26 years in 2009. I've had more hobbies than I care to count. Most were doing things with my hands and didn't require my traveling too far from home, wooden ship models, leather work, oil painting, photography, gun kits, reloading... etc. I would stay with a hobby until I felt competent, then move on to something else. My wife used to say "The only consistent hobby I've had was collecting hobbies"

A lot of people screwed up. There was a lot of screwed up stuff on the entire production. From what's come out it seems obvious that most of these screw ups were the outcome of trying to save a buck and just plain being cheap. As a producer, Baldwin is ultimately responsible for everything wrong on that set. Its his own fault if he wasn't properly trained to handle a firearm. But I still maintain, Baldwin and only Baldwin is responsible for pulling that trigger. Its his bullet.

This is my SBH in 44 MAG. The Recovered round is a swaged bullet I made.

I had surgery yesterday to repair my ring finger on my left hand. Doctors call it trigger finger, a knot on the leader where it goes through the guide. A simple procedure, no big deal. I was afraid I would have to put it off after coming down with covid but I recovered in time. The stress of worry has been very trying. My step son lost his father last week from complications of the same lung ailments I have. He didn't have covid but I have no doubt that it will be recorded that he did. I don't doubt many have died from this virus but it has been blown way out of proportion. Add in the anger and tears from the abandoning of Afghanistan, worry that I will lose my job for not getting the jab. How am I not crazy you ask? I have a good wife and an all powerful God that love me through thick and thin. And a bunch of friends most of whom I've never met in person here that make me laugh and yell daily. Thank you God and thank you friends.

Been there. Got hit by a drunk driver in 2010 while on a stop. Most led bars on patrol cars have a dim button you use at night so it isn’t as bright but good and visible.

Im a new member but joined so I could be able to talk with a couple members on here I have known from another forum.

I kept hearing some Grunts from over east but didnt know where to locate them. That Sidinman told on ya.

Welcome to the forum old buddy. Glad you're here. Missed ya.

Smokeless and sabotless. 2850 fps with a 275.

Since I used to work on Police cars, I can attest to the fact that blue lights do indeed have a Hi & LO setting. It seems that some officers don't understand this or how to use them accordingly. I, too, have been blinded by blue lights at night. I can see where that could be used as a reasonable defense.

Clerke First for the win...

I too have the same support system you have. It's the best! I had a good October and will pray you have a better November papa61. God be with(bless) you and yours. We all have down times, and are in need of support, from time to time. May your bio-rhythm be on an upward swing in Nov.

REDD... Back in the good ole days, we burned a ton of 2400, H110, n 296 thru 45 Colt Blackhawks with excellent results. About 1200 fps wuz the norm for these " heavy loads "... The old time bulletmakers had a great lineup of 45 colt bullets from about 250 to 275 grain hollowpoints n soft noses. All of em shot like a house afire. We found that there wuz basically no difference between the heavy 45 colt loads n 44 mag loads as to accuracy n power. To this day, I wouldn't turn around for the differences between em. As to the revolvers, there is nothing lighter n easier to carry than the old aluminum frame 4 3/4 inch blackhawks. If ya want somethin a bit heavier, round up a ruger bisley or a vaquero (.. I like the 5.5 bbl length ..). Ya simply cant beat em if ya are a big bore revolver guy and ya reload. We only own eight of em, from 7 1/2 to 4 3/4. I used ta carry a 4 3/4 regularly loaded with mid range heavy cast bullet loads ( ..900 fps or so ..). Buy n use without hesitation. Ya will be well armed, indeed... leroy...

A good wife and God will help you through it all. I am thankful to have both. I pray the future is better for all of us. Thank you pap61 for your service also.

You DO know he supported the AW Ban, yes? He was quoted as saying civilians have no need for AR's or AK's or any guns of that type. Those are NOT the thoughts of a "great" man, IMO. My .o2

I'm glad you are here among us. You've probably already figured it out, but TGO is full of some of the finest people on the planet. We tend to cover each other when times get rough, even if it's just to make them laugh or to share a prayer or two. I'll let the other clowns keep you laughing, but I'll gladly say a prayer that your November is far better than October has been.

No shots, no masks, no B.S. in my life!

No shot, no booster, no mask. I'm guessing I'm probably younger than you guys though and lower risk. I also don't do Flu shots.

Mogli has hit the center of my concern RE " reloading ": "...The condition we are facing many change the discussion in the not too distant future. What I am seeing is the price of primers has doubled from reliable vendors ..." Since our buddies at CCI have been gobbled up by the big cartridge guys, i have been of the opinion that primer production for reloading would go to " zero "... That is exactly what has happened. I don't look for any " alturistic outreach " by the big ammo manufacturers to us reloading curmudgeons. I hope i'm wrong; but i can't help but notice alturism n good will among corporations seems to be waining a bit. CCI was the greatest friend the reloader ever had... The big cartridge companies, not so much... In recent times, the Ruskies were better friends to the reloader with their Tula primers than the americans... SIGH... sad leroy...

I've been meaning to take a picture of mine for a long time. Just never got around to it. This thread has prompted me to get off my butt, dig 'em out of the safe and do just that. Left to right: Browning 1886 SRC .45-70 Winchester 94 .30-30 Winchester 9422 .22LR Winchester 94 Trapper .45 Colt Winchester 94 Trapper .44 magnum Rossi 92 Trapper .357 Magnum.

Oh man, I been picking one up here and there for a few years now. Heck that pic. is two years old. RP

Well here is the final product. I’m very happen with how it turned out and feel much more confident with the red dot. I’ll admit that while I didn’t care for the 507K on the smaller guns, I’m a fan of the slightly larger dots. This Diamond D Denali chest holster is very comfortable as well. I wore it around the woods for about and hour and barely noticed it. I was planning to add the new Timney Glock trigger but was told by Timney that it’s still in the prototype phase for the large frame Glocks. I neglected to take a picture of the job Battlewerx did but it was about as good as you could expect. The fit was PERFECT with no movement in any direction. They also had it milled and sent back within one day of receipt (no coating applied).

I'd be glad to sit a bench for those prices.

Imagine him doing that, LOL

That's an internal issue. Send it back for repair. Taurus has excellent CS & warranty.

Oh man!!!

I’m great. Glad to see you’re still around.

We'll all sleep better knowing that....................

Yep!

The are "Ruger only" loads listed out there, but the loads must only be used in a listed Ruger. On a side note I have been looking halfheartedly for a Ruger SBH in 45 Colt, it can be loaded up to 10% just short of 44 Mag loads.

Life seems to kick you in the balls at times. Not sure why. If you can make it past the pain, it gets better again. Until then we`re here to commiserate. I'll pray for you, too. God is good. He'll be along sooner or later. Hang in there.

Cleveland has a really nice downtown cruise-in where they close it off the streets 4th Saturday of the month. The last show was this month. We normally take this since we all fit in this one:

If you roll your own use .44 Special loads in magnum cases.

Seems the old directors/producers knew a thing or three about safety.

Don't forget Raven!

Not quite that sexy, but I'd love one of those flashy things. I do have a hobby that's kind of turned into a second job. It requires as much governmental paperwork as the first, but it's so much more fun. And..... I'm not allowed to post about that either.

It all about chamber depth and throat location. The .44 magnum and .357 magnum were purposely made long so that they would would be stopped at the chamber throat and not seat fully resulting in the cylinder not being able to close. This all about safety. The chamber could have the shoulders of the throat reamed a bit allowing the magnum cartridge to fully seat, however the shorter over all length of the cylinder could cause the nose of the bullet to slightly protrude out the front of the cylinder.

Another "no". The cylinder on the Special is a shorter length. A Mag rd would easily bind up the cylinder with the bullet nose, depending on the depth of the rd seating of course. I've read several articles or anecdotes about people trying to do that. All had issues trying that. It's not like swapping a .22 LR & a .22WMR cylinder or a .357mag & .38 spl ammo.

Thanks David. I'm glad I joined.

And yet the citizens of California can’t purchase one as it is not on the roster of handguns considered to be safe for the public to own.

I have a bunch of .45’s from US property marked 1911 to 1911A1’s to Springfields and Rocks race guns. I purchased a Tisas .45 and 9mm. Wow, what a set of guns. Cheap but shoot great. I think they out perform the Norinco. Tight as Dicks hatband. I purchased these to see just how bad a Turkish gun could be. Boy was I surprised. Well, I would carry either one into a gun fight which I hope never happens.

I have a Rock Island. I don’t see how any handgun could be considered an improvement over it.

It’s a design from the early 1950’s. USAF survival rifle. That’s a stupid price for what it is.