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This is somewhat like mandating that everyone has to eat 4-5 oz. of peanuts a week regardless of allergies and side effects so some folks could get kickbacks from the industry. Most would be fine, a lot would get sick and some would die. The ones in charge wouldn't care as long as the money kept coming in. These people don't care what-so-ever about the results and the people affected.

FFS, do your own damned homework... Let me spend hours copying and pasting links for you to dismiss so you don't have to google something.

Adorable moment doting mother bear teaches her cub to use slide in a park in Asheville, North Carolina. https://video.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/2021/09/23/7116313917046961227/1024x576_MP4_7116313917046961227.mp4

I fell the same way. Never thought there would be a day that you could not walk into a store and buy a lb of chicken. But it happened. never again. we now raise meat/fur rabbits and jumbo Coturnix quail. And have had chickens for several years. We raise and can a lot of beans tomatoes and freeze corn and we now have a small generator to power our well and a coffee pot. plenty of fire wood and a good stove IF the SHTF we will hunker down

I can speak from experience. I personally would much rather have taken the Pfizer I and II (I did) than be in the state my Wife is in. She is fairing pretty well but for about two days now has felt horrible. Guess what. I had nearly zero side effects from the first shot (just a bruised shoulder) and mild to medium side effects from the second (for about 3-6 hours I had some cold chills and had an aching shoulder for about 24 hours). I was able to go about my normal day throughout that. My Wife is knocked down pretty good. I weighed my options and took the shots for the love of my family. I knew it would be hell if my Wife and I both had COVID at the same time while taking care of of our less than one year old. So far, I’m thankful I did. Now I can take care of them both. I do hope that there are not long term effects, I sincerely do. So far so good, depending on who you trust there shouldn’t be any. I am also insured…for my family. For what it’s worth, I feel 100% right now while my Wife and baby do not. Out of sincerity to others here, I will let you know if I fall ill.

Huh. The internet says that 3,145 people died of COVID yesterday in the US alone. That's more than 9/11. That's essentially the norm. According to the internet, 1 in 50 children have a peanut allergy and 1 in 200 adults have the same. If we force fed every person in America a few peanuts, how many would die? Does that make peanuts inherently bad? Assuming that those numbers above are correct, consider this. 42.7M Cases of COVID US = 684K Deaths or about 1.6% mortality I'm seeing about 182,587,334 many people in the United States being considered fully vaccinated. Lets take all the numbers in the above post (229+1113) and divide that out by the vaccinated. 0.00073499%. Compared to 1.6% mortality. That isn't even discussing the accuracy of VAERS data. Has it been considered that maybe the increase in those measurements is because of COVID running rampant?

That's my point. Politics shouldn't have anything to do with this pandemic. And yet, that's all anybody wants to talk about. So wrong on so many different levels.

I am starting to believe a complete failure of the power grid may be a good thing for this country. It would suck, but at least we wouldn't have to have everyone telling everyone else how they need to live their life. On a side note, I am flabbergasted that no one has managed to convince those that disagree with them that they are right. Who would have thunk it. Keep at it guys, I have faith someone will break the barrier soon!

I have talked to a bunch of folks that refused the vaccine. NONE because they didn’t care.

Does this help? https://www.google.com/search?q=tennessee+monoclonal+antibody+treatment&client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&prmd=nsixv&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwipjf3kr5bzAhWisDEKHdVZAyYQ_AUoAXoECAIQAQ&biw=375&bih=553&dpr=2 In others words, the state wants to help those that refuse to get the vaccine, rather than those who actually care.

TN death count still rising: Sept 1-7 286 Sept 8-14 421 Sept 15-21 453 - OS

I haven't practiced in over two decades, and I don't want to. I know that there's a lot of confusing information put out there by both sides that's complicated by politicization thanks mostly to the left during Trump's last year in office. There are valid reasons for not getting the vaccine, and I wouldn't suggest otherwise. What annoys me is people posting information on this forum who's source is a so-called expert citing anecdotal cases as if they are derived by the scientific method. In the case of treating humans, the gold standard of the scientific method is the double-blind study. That means neither the administering party nor the recipient know whether they are getting a placebo or the real drug. Those studies take time, and unfortunately, the virus (the D variant), proves VERY contagious and seems to be killing younger people who aren't vaccinated because this was a disease killing old or disabled people. Unfortunately, anecdotal news reports of people falsely reporting COVID infections really invalidates CDC's mortality numbers. Any good physician weighs the risk versus the reward with EVERY patient before acting. Example: my disabled daughter did not get the vaccine because her neurologist did not know how it would affect her condition. Luckily, she survived her encounter with the D variant after a considerable stay in the hospital, but what if she hadn't? Not knowing the true mortality numbers complicates that decision. What we DO know is that the FDA has NEVER had a pool of vaccinated people this large with which to pull data. I would wager that the medicine cabinets of the people posting bull information on this forum are full of drugs who have had less of a test pool than the COVID vaccinations. The smaller test pools of the FDA explains why you get drugs that have been on the market for decades but then get pulled because serious issues come up. One example is Zantac. It's true that we do not have any long-term studies of these vaccines, but they were derived by proven scientific methods. My heart hurts for Phil Valentine and his family because he made a bad risk assessment when he decided not to take the vaccine. I don't want people on this forum doing the same damned thing because they were listening to some alleged expert spewing anecdotal information to the world to see how many people they can fool.

Good Afternoon All - I wanted to share some standards that I have been developing and vetting over the last several months that I run as a "Combat Conditioning" workout. I believe this is the correct place to post this. So here it goes. Shane Kerwin - Personal Survival Solutions The American Rifleman - Battle Standards - Run during my twice weekly Combat Conditioning sessions There is no cost for this. I have been running them on my own at Montgomery County Shooting Complex (Where I have access). Recently I have had some select folks come out and run them with me. American Rifleman - Battle Standards Range and Equipment needed - 100 yard range , 60 rounds of rifle ammo, rifle zero'ed at your prefered distance, extra magazine carrier, cones or yard line markers, and a target that has a defined head and high center chest area (I use Fieldcraft's target) Standards - 10 evolutions, Overall time 22 minutes or less, No more that 6 fight stopping misses. The chest box and head triangle are good for aiming and scoring, but if it is a fight stopping hit outside of them, it will count. Full misses or periforal hits count as a miss. Start the time: 100 yards - from standing to seated position - fire 1 shot to the chest. Move to the prone position - fire 1 shot to the chest. So 2 shots at the 100. Run to 75 yard 75 yards - Traditional Kneeling position - fire 1 shot to the chest. Run to 50 yard 50 yards - Speed Knee position - fire 1 shot to the chest Run to 25 yards 25 yards - Standing position - fire 1 shot to the head Run to 7 yards 7 yards - Standing postion - fire 1 shot to the head Run back to the 100 yard line and repeat 9 more time. I wanted to run something that was a functional workout, shooting/marksmanship, positional shooting, and some type of quantifiable standard to see progress. It is one part of a program I refer to as Combat Conitioning. It is not easy, but anything worth doing isn't. I do want to give credit to Reid Henrichs (Valor Ridge). This is an adaptation of his to "Tough 100" Attached is the target and rifle I ran the Battle Standards with last time I ran them. Overall time was 21:29, with what I consider 5 misses. Cutting it close, but room for improvement. Give them a try. Cheers, Shane Always Vigilant, Always Prepared

Get your picks in early, who will win, who will be awful. As usual, Vandy will probably only win one or two games, none in the SEC, IMO. UT will be 5-5, 5-6, depending on how hard covid hits their schedule. Score a bunch of points, give up a bunch of points on defense. Bama should win the SEC West but keep an eye on Ole Miss. They may climb above LSU for the West #2 slot. Were I a betting man, I'd wager on GA for the SEC East. Lots of talent there, good coaching as well. FL might be hit or miss, Gobs of talent but a bunch of 5 cent heads, IMO. Everyone else will fight for 3rd place except Vandy. Bama vs GA in the title game. Coin flip on who wins. Elsewhere, the usual suspects. OSU, Clemson, maybe Oklahoma? No clue about the West coast at the moment, who's good or not. NFL Titans looked REAL good in preseason despite playing all back-ups. Both back-up QB's looked sharp as did the RB. The rest of the AFC South is in a rebuilding mode for the most part. Indy lost QB Rivers to retirement. Houston is a mess with the legal issues around their QB. J'ville is with a first year college coach & rebuilding as well. KC will win their division along with the AFC West. Buffalo might make some noise in the AFC North. I don't see NE winning it nor Pittsburgh. KC & Titans in the AFC title game with the Titans winning it in a close game. NFC will almost certainly be taken by Tampa Bay as long as Brady is healthy. Their back-up QB played awful against the Titans, so he's not the answer. NFC West will be a three dog race with the Rams, 49ers & Seahawks, IMO. NFC East is a dump for teams except for Green Bay. Green Bay & Tampa Bay in the NFC title game with Tampa winning it. Tampa Bay vs Titans in the Super Bowl. If everyone is healthy, Titans winning it.

LMFAO, so why are they still giving the flu shot???

Sigh. So you know all those protections we were doing for the highly contagious COVID-19? Those same protections work for the less contagious flu.

I carry a Glock 48 IWB (appendix) in a left handed T-Rex holster. In the summertime if my outfit doesn’t permit, I keep it in a crossbody Gun Toting Mama purse. Highly recommend the purse if you don’t mind some razzing from your friends. Lol

I wouldn’t think so. Is Ted Turner still above ground? Haven’t heard anything about him in years.

Give it some time, these serial protestors are scattered all over.

She is a tenured Navy Surgeon, didn't hear her say she was no longer one. The numbers, which are not very hard to CONFIRM: 20 active duty deaths in 2020 DOD wide, so far (date of video/conference) 80 cases of myocarditis with it having 66% mortality. In VEARS: leukemia 48 cases a year, now 229 cases. myocarditis 317 reported in 31 years, this year up to 1113.

My pleasure hipower. I can understand how that can be tough. We all envision ourselves as always being Good to Go and then age has a funny way of changing that. I know that age is starting to make things harder. By the VA I am 100% disable, but feel blessed that I have all my fingers, toes, and appendages. So I keep plugging along. I had a gentleman, who is now a friend, in a class I taught who was having troubles holstering his pistol. He shared with me that he had, had a stroke and had neorological issues with feeling and movement. We worked with what he could do and came up with a solution. If he tapped the outside of the holster and then brought the pistol up, down and in, he was successful and safe. Just an example of a limitation and working around it. If you ever want to get together just let me know, that is what I really enjoy doing. Keep up the good work.

That's not true at my granddaughter's school. It is incumbent upon her mother to supply the school with fresh epi-pens every year, and the other kids are free to bring what they want. They are restricted from directly exposing her to the nuts. She also has to sit at a special table for lunch to prevent cross contamination. According to my daughter, the only time it was like as you stated was when the teacher was also allergic to nuts and prohibited them from her classroom, and that was just in 1 grade.

Shooter identified as U K Thang 29, a 3rd party vendor with Kroger, working in the deli, according to Ch. 2 news just now.

Update now 11:00am. 6 still in the Hospital. 3 in critical condition.

Sometimes a shooter's name is withheld so they don't get all the immediate attention. The Collierville PD Chief just gave a press conference and didn't reveal much except that 15 people were shot and 10 were employees. He was asked several questions about the shooter and motive, but repeated that the investigation was still ongoing and he was not releasing any of that yet.

I'm glad you can see into the future. Will the Titans beat the Colts Sunday? Cover the spread?

#### that amendment. Failure to follow orders leads to break down of good order and discipline.

Thnks for the encouragement. I have bad neuropathy in my feet. Walking is getting more difficult by the day. Never envisioned this in earlier years. Chemotheraphy drugs can be helpful and deadly at the same time.

My point is that you are wrong about their motives. No, they shouldn't get preferential treatment. They should get the God damned politics out of this once and for ALL.

hipower - definately understand my friend. On a separate but related note. I've got a gentleman who has been coming out to run them with me to get back in shape and lose wieght. He has about 100 lbs that he wants to lose. He has some physical limitations, but we works around them. He walks most of it and only does what he can. Some of the positions are diffiecult for him, so we modify it, but he keeps coming out to push himself. it is encouraging to see. Thanks for the feedback gents.

TN deaths for each week attributed to Covid by the TN Dept of Health. Not a running total (1160 so far this month). Besides the average daily death rate I post for each month, I've kept the weekly totals since last Dec also -- both are stats not found elsewhere at a glance that I was originally curious about. - OS

This is great. Perhaps you could start by hitting up @TGO David about a Vendor membership so you can actually advertise here at TGO. You know, boundaries and such.

Your paranoia has worn me out. I'm done. I've given my warning to others not to listen to crap like this.

Hey all, My normal EDC is a Glock 34 with some light custom work on it. It works well with my body type and with a Tier 1 Concealed AIWB and all of the appropriate wings and wedges. I also carry a spare mag in a Blade-Tec OWB behind the left hip. If I am wearing shorts and a more fitting t-shirt I may go to a S&W M&P 2.0 Compact or a G19. These fit my lifestyle and the G34 is carried religiously everyday. Thanks for the good topic. I like to see what everyone likes to tote.

Rain comes and rain goes, just wait a few days, come on, yall have lived here long enough, you know how it works.

I am jealous! great score. My wife would approve until she tried to pick it up LOL.

They used to use it for a lot of things in people but, that stopped.......

I've had both the good & the bad. Broke my left index finger years ago, went to M'boro VA, x-rayed it, clean break. They wouldn't touch it. Sent me to Nashville, 8 weeks later, my finger is now crooked, won't bend properly. Later, I had a colonoscopy at M'boro, got caught in that scandal due to them not cleaning the equipment properly. Lucked out that I didn't catch a deadly disease. I swore then, never again will the VA do anything invasive to me. I go to the VA for one reason; I can get my meds free. I couldn't afford it other wise. I do have a good group now in Firm C, but trust only goes so far. I hear reports on both sides, good & bad. The majority has been bad. Certainly good to hear yours has been good. Hope it stays that way. Take care Brother.

You are wrong. The science has been there for quite some time. It's just being used for the vaccine - except the J&J which is older and less effective..

The FDA denied booster shots for the general population, but allowed booster shots for those 65 & up, plus those with crucial conditions. This was for the Pfizer vaccine. Moderna hasn't been approved yet, but is expected to be in a few weeks. On a personal level, I've had both Moderna shots via the VA. When their booster becomes available, and fits my time frame ( 8 mos. ), I will get it. Do I trust Fauci, CNN, or anything resembling Gov? Heck no. But I do believe in vaccines. Look at Polio, smallpox, and others that were eradicated because of them. Flu shots can be hit or miss, depending on whether or not the target the right strain. So far, in my case, they have been spot on with the flu. I haven't had any side effects from the Covid vaccine, and I've not been in the ICU on a ventilator. I spent 16 mos. in an Army hospital after being wounded. I never want to experience anything like that again. To each his own. JMHO Larry

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Well, regardless of the number of jabs agreed upon, I found this tidbit in the above article more interesting: The research, published Friday in the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Report, found hospitalizations and emergency room visits for children with Covid-19 increased from June to August. And in the two-week period in mid-to-late August, ER visits were 3.4 times higher in the states with the lowest vaccination rates while hospitalizations were 3.7 times higher than in states with the highest vaccination rates. The states with the lowest vaccination coverage were in the South.

If it's good enough for Dolly Parton, it's good enough for anybody.

I haven't been following this thread or any of the Covid stuff for a while now. I'm just tired and fed up with all the opposing arguments and tons of opinions and "proof" of this or that. It really disturbs me that a world wide health crisis has devolved into a heaping, huge pile of political bull####! I've had enough. I'm gonna speak my mind . For every "scientist" who makes a claim, there's another equally "qualified" "scientist" who claims the exact opposite. And to all those folks who "did their own research" I say Bull####! You already made up your mind and went searching for "proof" to support the opinion you already had. And then there are those who oppose the vaccine, social distancing or wearing a mask on the grounds of "Freedom". Admit it, you're just a stubborn three year old who doesn't like being told what to do. Especially when you don't like the political party that's telling you to do it. WAKE UP DICKHEAD! It ain't about freedom, its about staying alive! Many of you are stubborning yourselves to death! Undisputed facts: 1.The Coronavirus is real AND it can be deadly. 2. There are approved vaccines available that at the very least have shown to lessen the effects of the virus. 3. Hospitals are overrun with Covid patients who are dying in record numbers AND the vast majority of these people are un-vaccinated. 4. The average American is a hard headed idiot! One more thing, a large portion of the dead are Republicans/ Conservatives who didn't get vaccinated for political reasons. At this rate so many of us will die that the liberals won't need to cheat in the next election. Believe it or not, the future of our nation is at stake here. I did take the vaccine. I do wear a mask and social distance. I am being a responsible adult. if you don't and end up dying, don't expect any pity from me. That's my opinion and if you don't like it, tuff ####!

Lieutenant Val Browning, the inventor's son, demonstrating the use of the water-cooled M1917 in France (Photo: Army Heritage and Education Center)

Slap some of that on a bun with some slaw and hot sauce and send it over!